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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 10:52:49 AM   
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Butch, you're a big boy...... You know as well as anyone, they can make it so not worth his while, they can howl about drug use and force testing and all sorts of quasi legal issues, if a company wants somebody gone, they're gone.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 11:05:56 AM   
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KAPLAN: It's not necessarily League problems, per se. The situation with the Steelers, they've been owned by the Rooney family since 1933. The five Rooney brothers own 80 percent of the team and each owns 16 percent. Their cousins own 20 percent. Under NFL rules the lead owner must have 30 percent. But the Rooneys have been exempted from that. So they've gone along swimmingly under this formula for a while, when suddenly some of the brothers' gambling interests in Florida decided to put in slot machines. And that runs afoul of NFL rules, and so they're requiring the brothers to sell. The problem is, Dan Rooney, if he wants to buy out one of the brothers, would have to spend probably $160 million, which he certainly doesn't have.

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The thing that often gets overlooked in this is at the end of the day it's the NFL that decides who owns this team. And if they want Dan Rooney at the end of the day to own it, I think Dan Rooney will own this team.



http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/07/17/nfl_ownership/

I had heard this before. Your outside interests can directly affect your ability to buy... or continue to own.. an NFL team.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 11:22:35 AM   
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I do know money talks and so do law suites for that very reason. I just depends on the will of the people involved...If Limbaugh is serious it would mean big trouble for owners nixing his participation. So… because they basically like him and agree with his views they will use the threat of a law suite as an excuse.

I have no idea if anyone wants to go that far…but the possibility is there.

Butch


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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 11:57:52 AM   
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Butch Google the USFL's lawsuit against the league .....they won their suit and recieved a $3 dollar windfall.Major sports leagues enjoy lofty legal positions in American courts.
How else would one explain the existance of the draft itself.....imagine any other profession where your freedom to work for whomever you choose could legally be abridged....other than sports.It's the only way to run a profitable and competitive league.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 12:07:53 PM   
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From my understanding. the NFL is a non profit organization (hard to believe that one, but thats what they say). As a Franchisee (hope i spelled that right) they dont have to accept anyone. Its their product to sell. Rush would have to prove he was discriminated against... which would be extremely hard to do since he has money and is white. The only discrimination he could possibly swing out of the air would be the comments he made against NFL players.

Alas, as much as i have searched, i have not found the requirements and rules for becoming an NFL team owner.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 12:12:24 PM   
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Tazzy...the NFL a non-profit org....I'm having a little trouble with that one!

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 12:48:52 PM   
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The National Football League (NFL) is the largest professional American football league in the world. It is an unincorporated/ non-profit organization 501(c)(6) association controlled by its members.[1]

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 12:58:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
How do you liberals in here know so much about the guy if you don't listen to him?


I don't listen to him, as such, but I hear the mealymouthed bastard 15 or 20 hours a week. I work from home, and my retired neighbor has Rush blaring on his radio all the time he's out working in his yard. I just sit at my computer hearing that idiotic bullshit running non-stop, and occasionally googling immigration policies for New Zealand and Costa Rica.


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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 1:18:27 PM   
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Thanks to all my well wishers, it's been a great day.

On the subject of the thread, I don't really care if Rush gets it or not, but I am kinda of curious as to why Al is getting involved. Does he have a stake in the NFL?


Glad you had a good one.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 4:04:07 PM   
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Rush goes to several NFL games each year and sits with the owner in their suite. Maybe, just maybe he has already talked to many of them ? He might already have the votes needed.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 4:24:20 PM   
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BOSTON — Rush Limbaugh’s bid to buy the St. Louis Rams ran into opposition within the NFL on Tuesday, when Colts owner Jim Irsay vowed to vote against him and commissioner Roger Goodell said the conservative commentator’s "divisive" comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.

"I, myself, couldn’t even consider voting for him," Irsay said at an owners meetings. "When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive ... our words do damage, and it’s something that we don’t need"

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view.bg?articleid=1204375&srvc=rss

One from the owners, then there is the players union, if im not mistaken.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 4:34:28 PM   
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Servant,whether you want to believe it or not this particular groups offer(Dave Checkets is a partner in this)is dead in the water.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 7:52:05 PM   
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okay, so if the Rams suck so bad, shouldn't every "Rush Sucks" club member here WANT him to spend his dough on the team?

also, I want Reverend Al to put up or shut up.  Him versus Rush is like Spike Lee doing a remake of  Toho's famous  War of the Gargantuas.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 8:06:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Yes but show me the bylaws that state they have the power to nix a proposed buyer because they don't like them. I understand what you are telling me but I want you to understand that they will fear legal action by Limbaugh and will not stop his participation.

Sure they will give lip service and encourage Frontiere’s kids to look elsewhere but the bottom line is if the purchasing team wants to keep Limbaugh and the Kids want the money I don’t think the NFL can or will stop the deal.

Something you are overlooking as well…I’ll bet most owners, who will have the ultimate say in his participation, are mostly Republicans with a pro Limbaugh leaning.

Butch


A yes vote would require the approval of 24 of the 32 owners, and Mr. Irsay of the Indianapolis Colts has already said that his vote would be a neigh. (colts...neigh...get it?..oh bother) 

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 8:07:45 PM   
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LOL!  good joke!

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 8:17:55 PM   
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I just heard that as well...I spent awhile trying to find the bylaws online...couldn't do it. Myself I hope he withdraws his bid...I'm from Missouri and would hate to have Limbaugh as an owner... But I feel that way because I personally don't like his politics not because I don't feel he has a right to be an owner.

It seems to me it is not right to take a freedom of any kind away from someone because of his or her politics... If I had the money...and I was not a criminal…and the seller wanted to sell to me… then I should be able buy. If someone denied me this right because of my politics then it is no different than not selling me a house because of my race.


Butch

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 8:20:14 PM   
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BOSTON — Rush Limbaugh’s bid to buy the St. Louis Rams ran into opposition within the NFL on Tuesday, when Colts owner Jim Irsay vowed to vote against him and commissioner Roger Goodell said the conservative commentator’s "divisive" comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.

"I, myself, couldn’t even consider voting for him," Irsay said at an owners meetings. "When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive ... our words do damage, and it’s something that we don’t need"



This from the scumbag that, along with his father, moved the Colts from their long history in Baltimore literally in the middle of the night.

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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 10:05:30 PM   
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Whoa. You sure do under estimate people. If someone is a crappy owner, then they will having crappy personel, crappy fans, and soon the crappiness will force them to get rid of the team or dissolve it. It wouldn't destroy the league. The NFL should be forced to run like any other business, if they are a for profit business. If they are a non-profit then they should fall under the rules and regs for that. I do not see a violation here. Now I say make the sale, then when dickwad opens his mouth and makes a comment that is damaging to the NFL, you start fining him, and eventually run him out. Due process should be followed in all facets of everything we do.


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There is no other way to run a sports leage. The individual teams are worthless without the central organization. It isn't like a McDonalds where the hamburgers they sell has nothing to do with the hamburgers another McDonalds sells. In this case, the league as a whole is more important than any single team. To change that would destroy the league, just as it would any major league sports team.


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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 10:07:50 PM   
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Yeah and we all know how open the PC market is as well, and there are many anti-trust laws going there too. If you want to look into some of the things that assisted in the fall of the USFL, you might be surprised and understand why the NFL has and can maintain a stranglehold on this sport.


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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf
To an extent I agree, but since the NFL has an almost monopoly on the market, it is almost like a violation of anti-trust laws. Very similar to the problems I have with the diamond markets and the price fixing there. While many agree in this occasion that it is okay to refuse the sale, what happens the next time, and it is for something we disagree with? Yes I know they are considered franchises, but it is franchises to a closed market. That is where I have the problem, there is no going independent if the organization does not let you in.


Maybe you remember the USFL? There's no law against going independent. There's also no guarantee that you'll be successful at it and there shouldn't be.



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RE: Sharpton has asked the NFL to nix Limbaugh's purcha... - 10/13/2009 10:09:09 PM   
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I think it has to do with him being a racist as well.


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Sharpton feels he has a stake any place racism might be a fight. Beyond that, he is no different than you or i contacting the NFL to voice a concern. Why this has become such a huge deal, Sharpton contacting them, i have no clue. He has no clout, other than his mouth.


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