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Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 9:21:18 AM   
NyDaddysGirl


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It's been determined that I have a vitamin D deficiency.  (I test at 9 and I'm told it should be between 30 and 80.)  I've been put on a perscription suppliment for the course of 8 weeks and then I'm to be tested again to see if there's been any improvement.

Is anyone here familiar with the symptoms and/or results of a vitamin D deficiency? 

Has anyone else had a D deficiency and what was your experience with it and what was the outcome of treatement?

Will getting my levels up correct any adverse results of the dificiency or will it merely prevent further damage?

I'd prefer to get someone's take on it, who has been there/done that as well as anyone who is medically or holistically knowledgable about it.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 3:49:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rather than a prescription to raise your levels I'd try getting a bit of sun and a tablespoon of cod liver oil each morning. I always try natural methods first.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 5:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, it's become the new medical subject of hysteria since cholesterol hysteria is so 1989.  People became deficient in Vitamin D because of all the hysteria about sun exposure and skin cancer.  Instead of moderation, they, meaning the dermatologists and other physicians, told everyone to stay completely out of the sun, and wear sunblock.  Sunshine is the main catalyst for natural production of Vitamin D, since it triggers the chemical reaction to happen in your skin (real simple explanation), and no sunshine=no or little natural Vitamin D production.  The recommendation is now 10 to 15 minutes of sun a day, moderation, everything in moderation.

Just take your vitamins, get some sunshine, and your levels will most likely return to normal in a few weeks or months.  And, in 10 to 20 years, once people get back out into the sun and their Vitamin D levels return to normal,  the medical community will find something else to get hysterical about.

Don't mean to sound jaded, but Vitamin D testing is what I do for a living at a very large medical lab and research institution, and it's quite a money-maker.  And the medical community is so proficient at creating hysteria so people keep coming back for follow-up appointments and testing and pills.....

Also, you can buy Vitamin D3 over the counter at any drugstore, Walmart, grocery store or health food store. 

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 6:01:18 PM   
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http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search/label/vitamin%20D

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 6:04:36 PM   
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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 6:05:36 PM   
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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 6:08:13 PM   
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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 9:07:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Yeah, it's become the new medical subject of hysteria since cholesterol hysteria is so 1989.  People became deficient in Vitamin D because of all the hysteria about sun exposure and skin cancer.  Instead of moderation, they, meaning the dermatologists and other physicians, told everyone to stay completely out of the sun, and wear sunblock.  Sunshine is the main catalyst for natural production of Vitamin D, since it triggers the chemical reaction to happen in your skin (real simple explanation), and no sunshine=no or little natural Vitamin D production.  The recommendation is now 10 to 15 minutes of sun a day, moderation, everything in moderation.

Just take your vitamins, get some sunshine, and your levels will most likely return to normal in a few weeks or months.  And, in 10 to 20 years, once people get back out into the sun and their Vitamin D levels return to normal,  the medical community will find something else to get hysterical about.

Don't mean to sound jaded, but Vitamin D testing is what I do for a living at a very large medical lab and research institution, and it's quite a money-maker.  And the medical community is so proficient at creating hysteria so people keep coming back for follow-up appointments and testing and pills.....

Also, you can buy Vitamin D3 over the counter at any drugstore, Walmart, grocery store or health food store. 


windchymes, thank you for the info and suggestions.

I have to admit that I'm normally the first one to scoff at the latest medical hysteria.  In this case, I didn't because after discovering that vitamin D is essential to the proper absorption of calcium, there just might be a good reason for this to show up on the radar all of a sudden.  I figured that if many women that had been taking a calcium supplement were still having instances of fractures due to osteoporosis that it would be conceivable that vitamin D deficiencies could've been related and therefore become the latest and greatest medical rage. 

I also have to admit that I don't drink milk nor do I tolerate the sun for very long and avoid it as much as possible so I've done this to myself.

That being said, I will get out in the sun to help keep my D levels up.  I still wonder if it will correct any damage that might be the result of the deficiency or if it will just be preventative going forward.

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ORIGINAL: Level

Two sites you need to check out:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search/label/vitamin%20D


Level, thank you for the links and seconding the D3 suggestion.   

I checked them out and both offer good info.  I did see one thing that I experience linked to the dificiency but other things weren't mentioned. 


Aileen, thank you.  I'm starting to become more open to natural methods of dealing with illness and preventing illness.  (This is a big step for me and could be a life altering change.)

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/24/2009 9:47:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dr. Mercola is a very strong proponent of vit. D. Here is a link to one of his lectures on it.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx

And here is a list of articles and sites that he suggests:

http://www.mercola.com/article/vitamin-d-resources.htm


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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 11:16:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks proudsub.  It seems there is a wealth of info for me to check out. 

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 3:46:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Yeah, it's become the new medical subject of hysteria since cholesterol hysteria is so 1989.  People became deficient in Vitamin D because of all the hysteria about sun exposure and skin cancer.  Instead of moderation, they, meaning the dermatologists and other physicians, told everyone to stay completely out of the sun, and wear sunblock.  Sunshine is the main catalyst for natural production of Vitamin D, since it triggers the chemical reaction to happen in your skin (real simple explanation), and no sunshine=no or little natural Vitamin D production.  The recommendation is now 10 to 15 minutes of sun a day, moderation, everything in moderation.

Just take your vitamins, get some sunshine, and your levels will most likely return to normal in a few weeks or months.  And, in 10 to 20 years, once people get back out into the sun and their Vitamin D levels return to normal,  the medical community will find something else to get hysterical about.

Don't mean to sound jaded, but Vitamin D testing is what I do for a living at a very large medical lab and research institution, and it's quite a money-maker.  And the medical community is so proficient at creating hysteria so people keep coming back for follow-up appointments and testing and pills.....

Also, you can buy Vitamin D3 over the counter at any drugstore, Walmart, grocery store or health food store. 


The focus on vitamin D now, is in part, due to the fact that there have been recent studies that have shown the old information is out of date and that Vitamin D is a lot more important to different body systems than what older thought had determined.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 5:02:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a level of 8.  I quit drinking dairy (even lactose-free or with lactase supplements) because I felt like a balloon or an alternate gas energy source, and that was my major source of vitamin D.

My symptoms were really bad knee and feet pains.  So bad that it was hard to walk.

Currently I take 3000 mg per day to keep it up in the normal range.



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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 5:10:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a link I found about vitamin D deficiencies (symptoms, mainly).  Read down the page to the blog-like part of it.  Along with symptoms some people experience, they also tell what they're Dr's prescribed.  I have read in other articles that Vitamin D is important to the normal function in every cell in your body.  It's also a pretty cheap vitamin.    http://www.fightingfatigue.org/?p=1220

This second link (among other things on it) has foods that are rich in Vitamin D.  Actually it says few foods are rich in Vitamin D, but if you scroll down to the end (or not the end, but just scroll down and you'll see the food table) of the link, it has a table with a list of foods with D in it.
http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp 

Good Luck!! 

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 6:30:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone for your input and links.  I will definately check them out.

Does keeping up with D suppliments keep your knee and foot pain away thornhappy?  I have bad knee pain that has been going on for well over a year with no explaination... maybe related to the D deficiency?  It would be great if it would go away!

Does anyone know if D a vitamin that can be bad for you in excess?



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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 6:53:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Vitamin D, via sunshine, is fine, but if you use supplements, then you do need to limit it. Different sources give different upper limits, but 4,000 to 5,000 IU of D3 is a safe, and should be an effective, amount.

Keep having your levels checked, and you probably will be able to lessen the dose as you normalize.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/25/2009 9:07:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NyDaddysGirl

Thanks everyone for your input and links.  I will definately check them out.

Does keeping up with D suppliments keep your knee and foot pain away thornhappy?  I have bad knee pain that has been going on for well over a year with no explaination... maybe related to the D deficiency?  It would be great if it would go away!

Does anyone know if D a vitamin that can be bad for you in excess?


Yes, it does.  I was figuring my shoes had died and to have that fixed by a supplement is amazing.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/26/2009 4:22:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, you definitely can have Vitamin D toxicity.  Some of the symptoms of it are:
The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), causing symptoms such as:
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Poor appetite
  • Constipation
  • Weakness
  • Confusion
  • Heart rhythm abnormalities
  • Kidney stones


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vitamin-d-toxicity/AN02008  (reference to the above symptoms)

The easiest way to tell if you have too much is to get a blood test.  Your doctor can order it. 
According to the world’s foremost experts, however, optimal blood levels of vitamin D are between 30 and 50 ng/mL and higher.24,25 Those with blood levels below 30 ng/mL are considered to have insufficient vitamin D.

Here is another link of Vitamin D.  Disregard the vitamin adds around it.  Everyone thinks I'm pushing this site for my gain.  I just like all the information it gives you...along with references, too.  Nothing you buy here benefits me.  Anything you may learn could benefit you, though. (For what its worth, I buy my supplements from GNC, and a local place called Debbies lol).  This link will tell you what you blood levels for Vitamin D should be, though.

http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=3370&query=vitamin%20d%20blood%20levels&hiword=BLOODBASED%20BLOODED%20BLOODS%20BLOODY%20LEVEL%20LEVELED%20LEVELIN%20LEVELING%20LEVELLING%20LEVELSA%20LEVELSAN%20LEVELSAS%20LEVELSIN%20VITAM%20VITAMER%20VITAMERS%20VITAMI%20VITAMINA%20VITAMINAS%20VITAMINC%20VITAMIND%20VITAMINE%20VITAMINEN%20VITAMINES%20VITAMINIC%20VITAMINK%20VITAMINS%20blood%20d%20levels%20vitamin%20

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 10/26/2009 6:33:34 PM   
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I was taking only 1000mg and it was barely keeping it on the low side of normal.

I was told another way to get it up to normal (from something like an 8) was to take 10,000 units for 5 days, then a maintenance dose from there.

btw, there was a study done on outdoor athletes recently and right around the fall equinox their vitamin D levels dropped like a rock.  I've seen another that said folks in the northern US (even down here in OH) will have a hard time getting enough vitamin D from sunlight - even without wearing sunscreen.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 12/6/2009 8:40:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure were you are located, but you can get Vit D capsules at the pharmacy, cod liver oil, although containing Vit D, is not concentrated enough and gives you awful tasting burps.

RE: the sunlight, i have had heaps of ppl say that to me since i have discovered that i am Vit D deficient... I am a fair hair, blue eyed, celtic skin type and it just isnt really sensible for me to go out into the sun for even short periods without appropriate protection - i live in Australia, yeah i know, and i'm Vit D deficient??

Since i have started taking the capsules, I have found that the muscle soreness and aching in my neck and shoulders has reduced, and my eye tiredness has all but gone and I have alot more energy.

I have been told that it is common place for ppl that live in areas of the world were not getting enough sunlight, it is quite normal for them to take a supplement... perhaps you should ask your friendly chemist what they think.

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RE: Vitamin D Deficiency - 12/6/2009 9:56:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, first thing everyone says is "go out in the sun more" and "drink more milk." Typically, the dr. will prescribe 50,000 (I think they are "EUs", but not sure) once a week for like 3 months and then retest. My current doctor was telling me that mine was low at 17, but I explained it was really an improvement since the last test had given an 8. Some of you who have read about my various health issues will understand me wanting "credit" for the improvement, lol.

The amount of sunshine you need can be gotten just simply walking from the parking lot to your office building, the store, etc. It all adds up. They are now saying that many fibromyalgia sufferers also have vitamin D deficiencies, the symptoms are pretty similar.

As for any damage that has already been done.....do you know that there is any? Long term deficiency can lead to osteoporosis, brittle bones, etc., all the things good vitamin D helps to prevent. Logically, you want to be checked regularly to know what is going on with your body. But really, women should be doing that anyway.

Once you get those levels up, it is worth trying to maintain it as naturally as possible. With the level currently at 9, you can't consume enough foods, supplements or sunshine to raise that level in a short period of time, so it would be best to wait until the next blood test before even considering it. The recommended dose has increased to the amounts already described in other posts over the last couple of years. For someone whose level is as low as yours, that amount is not sufficient to raise your level up either.

Be aware that you might need to take the supplements in some form or another for the rest of your life. Your body might not be able to get enough any other way. I know that I switched to OTC supplements after the first couple rounds of prescription dosing and get more sun, more vitamin D rich foods and such, and I'm still not at a high enough level. Natural remedies are great to try, but you shouldn't count on them to resolve the problem. Best bet is to simply listen to your doctor and read some of the wonderful information in the links provided here. By being well informed, you can communicate with your doctor better to find the best treatment for you.

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