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Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 11:02:28 AM   
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Hello all, first time poster here.
My question is, I want to sew someones lip together, we have discussed it and agreed on just what i am going to do, but I want to make sure there are no vital ateries or nerves that I can damage when preforming the "operation". Any help or directions to some reading material would be greatlt appreciated.

Thanks
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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 11:12:54 AM   
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Here is a link to the vascular anatomy of the lips.

I hope you are not going into this procedure *blind*. I would suggest finding some one familiar with the procedure and educating yourself, if you have not already done so. Perhaps doing it under the guidance of some one familiar with this practice, ie: they are physically present when it is done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lip#Sensory_nerve_supply

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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 11:20:52 AM   
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I don't want to go into this *blind* as you put it, but there is no one in my local scene who has done this, or wishes to share there experiences with me. I have also attended a few different workshops on play piercing, as well as a workshp on professional piercing, but none of these gave me the info I want for this scene. Thats why I have turned here for some help. Oh yeah, TY for the link

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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 11:50:32 AM   
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Hello all, first time poster here.
My question is, I want to sew someones lip together, we have discussed it and agreed on just what i am going to do, but I want to make sure there are no vital ateries or nerves that I can damage when preforming the "operation". Any help or directions to some reading material would be greatlt appreciated.

Thanks


The biggest danger is infection. I'm hoping you'll be using pre-sterilized suture kits and following sterile technique. Check the kits are from the developed world. I've heard some horror stories about "sterile" stuff... particularly coming from SW Asia.

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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 4:24:41 PM   
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A few suggestions and in both cases always prep the tissue to prevent infection. No matter how sterile all of your equipment may be, a perfectly sterile needle can drag surface bacteria into the pierced tissue leading to infection.
To prep the outside of the mouth, use betadine. It's not pretty (sort of a brownish orange colour), but it matters.
For the inside of the mouth, prep by having your victim - I mean subject - swish for a full 30 seconds with an alcohol-free anti-bacterial mouthwash. This also matters.
If I were you I would practice first using "play piercing needles" - hypodermic needle tips. Have your subject pucker, then you firmly pinch both lips together so they look almost like a duck bill. You don't want to go inside or outside the lip line - you want to be right on it (realistically you want the entry and exit points right through the lip line on both lips).
Then you can weave something like sterilized dental floss through the needles to have the effect of sewing your subject's lips together.
I wouldn't get into suturing (one of my favourite things, btw) before you build confidence and accuracy with needles doing what I have already mentioned.
For the record, I don't feel you can really learn all that much from a couple of paragraphs. I wrote the above in the name of harm-reduction as I know when someone really wants to do something they will - regardless of risks.
I'm sorry that I haven't any links to provide you with other than www.bmezine.com.
They may have something on the subject.
Another thing, before I forget...
I wouldn't recommend lip sewing as your very first suturing experience. The needles that come in suture kits are small and curved and awkward to handle if you are not accustomed to that sort of manual dexterity - especially as a pair of lips are thick, requiring some force and control.
Get yourself a number of suture kits to practice with on other areas of the body so you can build up your familiarity with them.

Hope this was useful to you.

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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 9:20:07 PM   
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Thanks for the info, already love BMEzine. I am fairly experienced with play piercing (wouldn't dream of trying this otherwise) and I appreciate the info on sterilization. I have bought some extra suture kits to experiment with, and a few chicken breasts to experiment on!

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RE: Lip Sewing - 3/7/2006 9:31:05 PM   
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Already have the suture kits, Made in Canada!!

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