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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

I'm not saying what's acceptable or not. I'm just saying that if you're a lonely desperate man into getting it in your ass, the Women on this site don't really give a flying fuck and for the most part are tired of reading about your strap-on fantasy so stop sending the messages.

Don't confuse being tired of hearing about your kink as not finding the kink acceptable.


boi

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ORIGINAL: straw8erries

Obviously guys who take it up the ass do so because they enjoy it. But, speaking as someone who is actually himself a male submissive I can tell you that it’s not enjoyable in and of itself - it just hurts a bit. It is nothing like getting a blowjob (as you implied in one of your posts) and is not something that straight men want in vanilla relationships. It’s enjoyable as an act of submission in exactly the same way as CBT, foot worship, queening, etc none of which I have seen you questioning.

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: straw8erries

Obviously guys who take it up the ass do so because they enjoy it. But, speaking as someone who is actually himself a male submissive I can tell you that it’s not enjoyable in and of itself - it just hurts a bit. It is nothing like getting a blowjob (as you implied in one of your posts) and is not something that straight men want in vanilla relationships. It’s enjoyable as an act of submission in exactly the same way as CBT, foot worship, queening, etc none of which I have seen you questioning.

This may be true for you, but I know of many, many men who LOVE this form of play, because it *is* enjoyable in and of itself (prostate, anyone?).  I also know of straight men who identify as vanilla who enjoy it.  You are not, sadly, the touchstone by which male anal play is measured.  If you're going to make blanket statements, I'd suggest you do some proper research instead of just talking off the top of your head.

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ORIGINAL: straw8erries
Hello again!


If all you said was that you were tired of reading messages from men into getting it in their asses I would have seen no reason to question this…
Or if you had just said that opening a conversation with an intimate sexual request is disrespectful and idiotic then I would have agreed with you…

But you also make an unrelated point about strapons:
‘I am SO damn tired of reading messages about how guys think taking it up the ass is "service”’
The implication being that taking it up the ass is not in reality service, and that therefore anyone who thinks that it is and is looking for this is:

Selfish – for wanting something that in reality is a service to him
Ignorant or stupid or both – for not having realised that this is the case
Not a true submissive – again for wanting something that in reality is a service to him
All of which is pretty damning, and is you saying what's acceptable or not.
Now I could be accused of putting words into your mouth here!
But it is there between the lines of what you said and what others have said on the thread.

It’s also wrong. Obviously guys who take it up the ass do so because they enjoy it. But, speaking as someone who is actually himself a male submissive I can tell you that it’s not enjoyable in and of itself - it just hurts a bit. It is nothing like getting a blowjob (as you implied in one of your posts) and is not something that straight men want in vanilla relationships. It’s enjoyable as an act of submission in exactly the same way as CBT, foot worship, queening, etc none of which I have seen you questioning.
Obviously it has to be something the domme wants and initiated by her but that should be a given and again is true for everything.
Not trying to start a fight here just standing up for myself and others like me.
Lonely desperate man into getting it in your asses are people too you know!


Thanks

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: straw8erries
Hello again!


If all you said was that you were tired of reading messages from men into getting it in their asses I would have seen no reason to question this…
Or if you had just said that opening a conversation with an intimate sexual request is disrespectful and idiotic then I would have agreed with you…

But you also make an unrelated point about strapons:
‘I am SO damn tired of reading messages about how guys think taking it up the ass is "service”’
The implication being that taking it up the ass is not in reality service, and that therefore anyone who thinks that it is and is looking for this is:

Selfish – for wanting something that in reality is a service to him
Ignorant or stupid or both – for not having realised that this is the case
Not a true submissive – again for wanting something that in reality is a service to him
All of which is pretty damning, and is you saying what's acceptable or not.
Now I could be accused of putting words into your mouth here!
But it is there between the lines of what you said and what others have said on the thread.

It’s also wrong. Obviously guys who take it up the ass do so because they enjoy it. But, speaking as someone who is actually himself a male submissive I can tell you that it’s not enjoyable in and of itself - it just hurts a bit. It is nothing like getting a blowjob (as you implied in one of your posts) and is not something that straight men want in vanilla relationships. It’s enjoyable as an act of submission in exactly the same way as CBT, foot worship, queening, etc none of which I have seen you questioning.
Obviously it has to be something the domme wants and initiated by her but that should be a given and again is true for everything.
Not trying to start a fight here just standing up for myself and others like me.
Lonely desperate man into getting it in your asses are people too you know!


Thanks

So explain to me about how mutually enjoyable sex is "service". As a female boi (note: no physical prostate) I've never had a problem with the highly enjoyable mix of pleasure and pain as a bottom to ass fucking. I love it in fact.

As a masculine identified female I relate to sex in a similar manner that men do. In fact, research shows that my brain and chemical function is more closely related to that of a male's that of a feminine female. To top that off, the straight, male s-types who are friends of mine happen to share similar political and relationship views as I do.

With all of this in common with typical straight male s-types, why on earth can I draw a different  conclusion than the average straight male s-type seeking this type of sexual interaction?

(general) Cuz I listen to the Women in my life as friends and the Owner...it's not service. Get over it. You're simply wrong in this thinking process if you do believe that mutually enjoyable sex acts are service. Strap-on sex with a male on the bottom happens to be up there with guys viewing going down a Woman ("queening", facesitting for oral sex, whatever) as service. If you're the first guy in line to dive in cuz you like it...it's not service...it's oral sex. Enjoy it for what it is. Stop trying to dress it up. The Women you're addressing aren't that dumb and you should stop treating them as if they are.

boi

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ORIGINAL: nmf78
is it really that important if its a service or not?

i really don't see the big deal about this.