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unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:13:46 PM

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I am wondering what the fun is in playing with an unconscious sub. The first scene in a movie we watched a few nights ago involved the dominant binding his sub to a chair then using what was probably chloroform on her then proceeding to play with her. How can that be fun for either of them?

This was another case where Hubby said "you don't want me to do that do you?" and this time i actually answered "no".

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:17:17 PM

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For me it's because I would wake up knowing I had just been used like a piece of meat.

In fact the NOT knowing exactly what was done (or perhaps having it tapes and made to watch it later) would be incredibly hot.

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Chloroform anyone?

Adding: Chloroform itself is probably not the way to go with these sorts of scenes, but there are some great technical/safety ideas in these threads for people who want to do it within a good reasonable safety margin.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:30:16 PM

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And to me this is a case "of to each their own"....my kink is not your kink - does that make it repulsive or wrong?

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:32:51 PM

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Because it would be fun to see their reaction to watching the tape you made while they were unconcious, perhaps looking on in horror, or even desire (to have experienced and remembered) the things you did to him/her. Or even to have them "come to" during an activity. To me, it seems like another way to structure a good mindfuck, and in many times they have the reverse fantasy, the desire for things to be done to them while they are out.

Honestly, I prefer a concious bottom when I top, but oh the evil ideas!

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:34:53 PM

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Because of the dangers associated with that, I don't think I would ever let myself be drugged or knocked out for play.

However, a variation to that to make it safe would be to simply act as though you were passed out and allowing the dom/me to do what they wanted to you that way. I have done this before and it is actually quite fun. The challenge of keeping silent, still and limp is very hard, and it becomes a mental bondage as well. Also, when playing this way, a safword can still be used if something goes wrong or too far.

It seems like this is a safe alternative to using a drug.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:36:44 PM

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For me it's because I would wake up knowing I had just been used like a piece of meat.

In fact the NOT knowing exactly what was done (or perhaps having it tapes and made to watch it later) would be incredibly hot.

I had a request to do just this sort of scene from a woman. She had some flunitrazepam. She had read about a "gang rape scene" I had arranged and wanted to be given the drug and (she used your exact term) "used like a piece of meat" with the scene videotaped so she could "revel in her degradation" later.

I declined largely because one side effect of flunitrazepam is that it can cause a person's body to be locked up for long periods of time with cellmates who really don't get the concept of safeword.

Of course, I was also unsure I could provide a cast for her little video even among my circle of friends

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:36:49 PM

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I have done this before and it is actually quite fun. The challenge of keeping silent, still and limp is very hard, and it becomes a mental bondage as well. Also, when playing this way, a safword can still be used if something goes wrong or too far.

It seems like this is a safe alternative to using a drug.

I enjoy being told to just lay there and act like a lump of fuckmeat, too. Hot in its own way.

But not the same kink as being knocked out.

Like all things, we assess the risks for ourselves and do what we consider reasonable. There's plenty of OTC and prescrip safe drugs to use for this in a reasonable manner for a scene.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:38:00 PM

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In fact the NOT knowing exactly what was done (or perhaps having it tapes and made to watch it later) would be incredibly hot.

I hadn't thought of taping the scene. Thanks for the links, I do remember the chloroform thread but missed the other one when i was away from the boards. I'm not sure he used chloroform, but it was something on a rag he put over her face.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:39:13 PM

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The whole idea of being used like a piece of meat is really hot for me too. Yeah I could get into that scene you mentioned proudsub

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:39:51 PM

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Of course, I was also unsure I could provide a cast for her little video even among my circle of friends

Yeah I'd consider playmates that I don't already know and trust as being over my acceptable risk level. Most of my fantasies have involved the date rape drug, or just plain old ambien.

Lately I've been playing the concept of being at LR and having it slipped into a drink during lunch and then dragged off and used by my three partners. Unfortunately my boyfriend can't be at LR so we'll see what happens.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 1:57:51 PM

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For me it's because I would wake up knowing I had just been used like a piece of meat.

In fact the NOT knowing exactly what was done (or perhaps having it tapes and made to watch it later) would be incredibly hot.
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Wow, and to think my first answer would have been ...yuck...you sure do know how to put the proper spin on things LA!

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 2:40:28 PM

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There is a little appeal in the idea of being used like this for me, at one point i was asleep and brought almost to the point of orgasm before I woke up, heh body knew what to do even with my brain out cold, when I did wake up it was quite a mindtrip knowing that that had happened, if it hadn't been with someone i really trusted i would have been quite scared. Though the same happened when I lost my virginity many years ago, had been playing with a guy the night before but not gone that far, had been drinking then woke the next morning with him already on top of me which was a scary expereince, i'm very carefull now who i fall asleep next too!

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 2:51:54 PM

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I WANT My boy awake so he know's what I'm doing, its that look of terror over the gag, or the moans through the gag--having him out cold doesn't do it for Me, but there are many who do.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 3:10:05 PM

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Whilst I would never agree to any trik of mine having this done unless I was present and in control of the whole scene (Not just the video cams), I could enjoy using this with a good mind fuck prior to her being drugged. Let her be dragged into a medieval torture chamber with burning torches as the only lighting and a brazier with irons heating white hot and background sounds of some one screaming…. You can bet your left tactical or tit that after or the next day I would give her a special treat like a candle lit dinner or something special.. I figure she would have earned it and after and depending the location she may slide under the table and give head to me or who ever I designated….

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 3:20:30 PM

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The enjoyment is not just in the moment!

It is also pre-play and post-play

consider the buildup for the bottom, knowing that at sometime in the future, (a set time or a unset time) the bottom knows they are going to be used like a piece of meat! The mind can do wonderful things during this time. In some ways this can be very much apart of the play

consider the after affects of the play... the references and savoring that can be done. We not talking about AfterCare here... we are talking about an extention to the play.

To often one thinks of play as just the main event... as an analogy that most can relate too SEX

Foreplay...

Intercourse with orgasmic consequences *G*

Afterplay...

Seems to me when you look at the Unconscious play from the narrow part in the center... consider the other two aspects. Sometimes these parts are more enjoyable thant the so called main event!

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 3:24:13 PM

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Ok Ok Ok KoM you said it nicer and less graphical than I did but you also said it better... Good on yer mate

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 3:33:39 PM

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A good mind fuck i the best thing there is at some point......................

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 3:39:29 PM

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the 'x' used to always tell me he wanted to have a poker party with me tied up somewhere to be used by everyone at the party... sadly he never realized what a total turn-on that was for me... (it never happened)

(ok i know different from the OP's thread)... but along the same lines as far as being used like a piece of meat.

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 4:09:05 PM

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I WANT My boy awake so he know's what I'm doing, its that look of terror over the gag, or the moans through the gag--having him out cold doesn't do it for Me, but there are many who do.

Oh MH you really know how to hit a home run. I adore that look of pure terror in pups eyes. I often ask him why he has that look if he trusts me, he says because although he does trust me, he isnt sure what I will do next. The not knowing is one of the best parts for him <s>

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RE: unconscious sub - 3/8/2006 5:36:48 PM

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Others have said that same thought that I am about to.... the whole being used, without you being able to say anything is a turnon for some. I personally like the vidoe tape part the best though.

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