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Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 4:11:08 PM   
maugseros


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Status: offline 		There are all kinds of bondage gear to buy to wear.  There are cuffs, collars, gags, catsuits, harnesses, corsets, locking boots, bondage belts, etc. etc.  They come in all kinds of styles, designs, shapes, colors.   There are also spreaderbars, whips, paddles, etc.

However, when it comes to bondage "devices" that are not something to be worn, like furnture, there doesn't seem to be THAT much out there.   And a lot of what's out there seems to be something that is welded pieces of steel cobbled together to create some type of bondage device (cross, chair, bed, etc.)     It's often all black iron pipe, and the welds are very obvious and so on.

Now this certainly can have a very pleasing asthetic in and of itself, but it seems that there just isn't that much (if anything) out there that is truely designed and constructed from the ground up with bondage in mind.. down to the smallest detail.  The closest I've seen (other than some incredible illustrations) is maybe some stuff Gord has built over at House of Gord.

Having an endless imagination and creativity (at least when it comes to sex, bdsm, kink), sometimes if you can't find what you are looking for.. you just have to do it yourself. :) 

In that vein, I've started designing some bondage equipment.  It's initially for a bdsm themed graphic novella that I am working on, but I also may end up picking one device to be  made for real, to see how it really turns out.   One of my problems is though.. I have more ideas for different kinds of bondage gear in my head than I have time to "put down on paper".  One of the other multitude of devices I am working on is a bondage bed that is just INSANE!

But then of course that got me thinking.   If I don't see out there what I am looking for... maybe there's at least a few people out there that might be interested in my designs also.   And if the cost of rapid prototyping continues to fall.. it may not be too long before I might be able to manufacture these in small enough quantities that while although wouldn't be cheap.. at least wouldn't cost 5 figures.

So that being said... here was my first design.   I call it the doll stand (or slave stand).   This was my first one that I bothered to take this far, and probably the simplest.. each design I do gets more complicated and more wicked. >;)   This is just a sketch.. it's not complete yet.  There is still quite a bit of detailing for me to add to it.   Like there's lots of engraving design that needs to be added to it.   I'm basically going to "steampunk" it up with lots of fancy engraving to give it more of a victorian kind of flair.  Maybe engravings of some dragons. ;)

Well... with all that being said...  is there anyone out there that would be interested in something like this if you could buy it?

Or should I just conciede that I am from another universe? :) lol





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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 8:26:04 PM   
shiroimin


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Status: offline 		That looks amazing.

Two Things:
1) Could you possibly include a picture with a slave in it, just to see how it is truly intented to be used

2) Stability is definitely a problem

otherwise, yeah its amazing, and I would get one if it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 8:47:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		That reminds me of a couple of actual devices:

http://img.rarebdsm.com/galleries/charlotte/perfect_wife/pic/pic_6.jpg
http://img.rarebdsm.com/galleries/charlotte/rigid_hogtie/pic/pic_1.jpg
http://img.rarebdsm.com/galleries/charlotte/rigid_hogtie/pic/pic_14.jpg

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 9:08:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was actually going to mention Charlotte fetish in my first post along with house of gord as some of the better stuff out there.

Here's a test rendering of the doll stand in use. Again.. Just a test rendering to show proof of concept. This rendering is not used for anything else. Not near complete, and her hair is just a placeholder.

If you are wondering why her skin is black... It's not because she's wearing a latex catsuits or anything... Her actual skin IS latex. She's been transormed into a living fucktoy. It's all part of the graphic novella I'm working on, that I won't bore anyone with the details of.

[IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/Maugseros/DollStand02.jpg[/IMG]



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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 9:14:19 PM   
maugseros


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Status: offline 		Don't know why my image isn't showing up in previous post.. but here it is.  Also showing further refinement of the device.




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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/17/2009 9:53:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Absolutely would be interested as long as we're not talking super expensive.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/18/2009 6:23:24 AM   
maugseros


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Status: offline 		Well, I have no idea how much it would cost to manufacture, so I don't know what the price would be.

As I said, this is an offshoot of designs for a graphic novella, actually manufacturing them for sale is just a thought at this point because there really is no high end bondage devices out there.

I'm sure if I partnered with a manufacturer and ordered them in batches of 10,000 or more at a time, I could get them made for a decent price. But there's no way I would ever sell that many even if they only cost a hundred bucks. Were not talking fur lined handcuffs here, lol and this is the tamest of my designs so far. There probably arnt 10,000 women out there that would even be willing to be bound in a device like this. :) lol

So, those of you who said you are interested, what is about the upper range you would consider buying one before you would consider it too expensive?

Agian... This may never come to fruition, and I'm not trying to find the maximum price I could charge to "gouge" people.. Of course everyone wants everything as cheap as possible these days. It's just to see if it's even feasable. If the most people are willing to pay is $250.. But it costs $1000 to make... There's not a business there. :)

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/18/2009 6:33:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		And consider that a latex catsuits can cost upwards of $600 or more. And that the cobeled-together-welded-black-iron-all-parts-came-from-the-hardware-store devices that ARE out there can cost $500 to $2000 or more (for beds and stuff).

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/18/2009 9:31:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Think you're also forgetting the physics of this. If a persons entire body weight is to the front, You MUST have some type of counterbalance to keep it upright. Getting a doll into this position may be easy but you're suggesting a human body...it's going to take good knees, yoga training and someone that's light (pick up and take down) to even get them up there. Also without the ability to adjust for fit you're narrowning the 10,000 that might be interested to the 100 that are perfectly physically fit, short enough and light enough for this to even work short term. While trussing a toy is fun, I'd be disappointed to spend the $1000 or more for something like this and not be able to enjoy it, or worse perminantly damage a sub due to iinjury...liability is something to consider as reality intrudes.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/18/2009 10:38:36 AM   
maugseros


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Status: offline 		Of course the device would have to be prototyped and tested before being sold.

Most of the slaves/subs weight would be supported by the dildo/anal plug seat.

There is some adjustabiliy built into the device. And if rapidprototyping keeps comming doNe in price, it may be feasible to build each one to custom measurements of the sub in question. In that case, the device could also be custom modified to make it more or less restrictive based upon a persons preference.

But the liability... You KNOW it would be sold as a novolty device only.. Not meant for actual use. Wink wink.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/18/2009 1:33:37 PM   
HisSweetElysium


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Status: offline 		WOW not a physicist so I can't comment on the actual practicality of it, but umm, yeah I wouldn't mind that masquerading as a coat rack at Master's house! 

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 12:50:06 AM   
scavve


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Status: offline 		Looks great, I can't wait to see the others

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 5:57:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey,

You probably are from another universe, one where people in little saucers kidnap helpless creatures peacefully going about their boring business and start probing all their holes....

I like it, do you need a copilot?

That said, your drawing is amazing.  I get bondage apparatus made, yours is way too complex and beautiful to be build for a non outrageous price, but maybe we have an oil prince here reading this who would love to get something unique and amazing.

I personally would be interested in a simplified, actually buildable device that looks better than what is found in the stores, please contact me if you'd like to try to draw something that could be made using actual building technique allowing the creation of a one off or very limited seri piece.

Attached is the latest cross I had built.

Smoke

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 5:59:25 AM   
Ekoms


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Status: offline 		Ooops, the cross picture did not attach, I shall post it on my profile pics, you can also see there one of the suspension devices I had made, the one holding the girl tied above the water. that works beautifully.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 6:03:26 AM   
GYPSYMAMBO


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Be safe and keep your patent papers in order..
 
Also it needs a counter "pole" leg at the back/chain to the wall device/floor bolting
..to fall forward in such a thing would be horrific

I LIKE IT

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 10:14:07 AM   
maugseros


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Status: offline 		Ekoms,

thanks for the interest. At this point, I'm not activly pursuing actually manufacturing anything yet, it's just a thought at this point.

But if I ever do... The point of doing it is to produce something that there isn't anything of out there. There really isn't any high end bondage devices out there that are designed, manufactured from the ground up. It simply may be that the market is just too small to support higher end (thus more expensive) gear of stuff like this that you arnt going to make 100,000 units at a time. That's what I'm trying to test the waters of... How much intrest and what would people be willing to pay. I hope that as rapid prototyping comes down in price.. Manufacturing something like this may become a system of "manufacture on demand" where you just make them as they are ordered.

But anyway, my desires lie in producing devices that don't look like they were made in someones garage. Again, nothing against that.. It has an appealing DIY asthetic to it.. But not what I'm after.

I don't see why this design couldn't be made out of cast iron pipe and bars of metal welded together. It just won't have the asthetic I want.

Gypsymombo,

right now the size if the base is just choosen for asthetic reasons. To be real, it would needs to
be engineered so that based upon weight and center of gravity, that it would be rather difficult for it to tip over. That wouldn't be difficult to determine. Much like a task chair isn't going to tip over with normal use, but doesn't mean that if you were bound to a task chair, and struggled violently.. Sure you could tip it over. Same would be for this, with a properly sized base, bigger than a task chair (based upon higher center of gravity) you would not be able to tip it over very easily. But again, not that you couldn't if one struggled violently. But then again, this is for a willing participant, you wouldn't be able to get someone in this device who is struggling much at all. Or it would at least be extremly difficult to do, and not meant for that purpose. That's what rope is for. Lol :)

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 10:58:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can see something like that standing in the living room in plain sight with potted plants stuck in the cuffs. It's a plant stand, honest! lol.

It would be interesting to see it ran with power to the top and a "lamp" fixture that pops off, revealing an oh-so-handy female plug for a vibe,violet wand, or any other electrical device.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/19/2009 9:42:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know what? if you could lay a device like that on the ground. get the slave in there, and then slip a hook through the top and crank it up with a winch that would be awesome. But that is probably getting into the super expensive range. Other that that I don't really see how you would get them up an on it. Cause not all subs are contortionist ballerinas. But I would love to be in a thing like that, as some sort of living sculpture, at a party. Everyone else running free range and me all restrained and looking pretty. But that's just me.

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/20/2009 1:44:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still trying to figure out how you can support someone by a small amount of material in front of their asshole on a bar and the thin membrane of the vagina and intestine. Or can this actually be done without excruciating pain? Ladies?

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RE: Would there be any interest in this? - 11/20/2009 4:34:26 AM   
elleX


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Status: offline 		Good morning
i think that Tinkerer is right
i could not stay in that position with no good support for a long time , it would be too painfull and to a certain point i think it would be dangerous ( risk of falling)  considering the way is it balance
that would also increased the pressure inside me and between my butts since there is no confort zone at all ,
i would be definitely to scare to go on it
thanks for asking 

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