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mnottertail -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 11:34:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: numuncular

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ORIGINAL: cuckyman

Bud, France is your calling.... libs always know it all....they know who is buried in the grave of the unknowns...just ask one.  Why don't all you jerks just move to one state, and we'll help build a wall around it...you can all protest and yell 'racism' all day long.... and leave the 'unwashed' rest of us alone.... we don't want your opinions...your critique...or your values.... The fact that personal and economic freedom even exists seems to shake your types down to the core.... We don't want a big government doing what is 'best' for us..... WE make those decisions...not you...  The promise of America was FREEDOM.... and those that stand in the way of that are about to get a big dose of 'FUCK OFF'...... either be an American or get the fuck out of here.....


lets get this right, are you simultaneously calling for freedom (IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS!) and the deportation of people who disagree with you?




Well, with a mugwump stance like that he is going to have to talk out of both sides of his mouth simultaneous like.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 1:17:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Okay, okay, it hurts me to have to sink to Sanity's levels, but it's got to be said that Palin has TERRIBLE halitosis from being an avid follower of the Atkins' diet.

Moose meat: it has its limits.



Buy stock in breath mint companies. Diets for diabetics are essentially Atkin's, and the slippery slope of health care reform leads right to putting everyone on a diet to lower the $ spent on diabetic care.




Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 1:25:01 PM)


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Diets for diabetics are essentially Atkin's,

No they're not: a lot of protein is advised, but cutting out everything else isn't.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 1:29:48 PM)


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Diets for diabetics are essentially Atkin's,

No they're not: a lot of protein is advised, but cutting out everything else isn't.


They are extremely low carb diets, which is what Atkin's is on maintenance.




Moonhead -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 1:36:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Diets for diabetics are essentially Atkin's,

No they're not: a lot of protein is advised, but cutting out everything else isn't.


They are extremely low carb diets, which is what Atkin's is on maintenance.

I'm glad I have type one, then. That's begging for trouble later on.




Fellow -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 2:45:31 PM)

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It has to do with her not being very intelligent and I would prefer my country being run by someone who is.


Who decides who is intelligent who is not? Is the intelligence knowledge of trivia or college grades or what? Maybe we should make it mandatory for higher office seekers to pass certain set of IQ tests. She would probably do better than the average member of US Congress. J. Kerry you probably voted for as your president had D- University average grade.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 2:46:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Diets for diabetics are essentially Atkin's,

No they're not: a lot of protein is advised, but cutting out everything else isn't.


They are extremely low carb diets, which is what Atkin's is on maintenance.

I'm glad I have type one, then. That's begging for trouble later on.


Not if followed correctly. I was at risk for type II until my doc put me on Atkin's and I lost 40 pounds in 3 months, and have kept it off on the maintenance program. My phase IV tolerance is around 50 grams of net carbs, lower than the RDA but hardly starving for carbs. Regular blood/liver and kidney tests and there are no issues.

Virtually any responsible long term weight loss program these days is based on a low GI, which is essentially low net carbs as well.




switch2please -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 2:46:52 PM)

I can't see Russia from my house.
Hell, I can't even see the original topic from here.

Weren't we talking about Palin....?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 2:48:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: switch2please

I can't see Russia from my house.
Hell, I can't even see the original topic from here.

Weren't we talking about Palin....?



Yes, and the snark about her diet related halitosis.




thishereboi -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 3:02:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Fellow

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No, she set up the destruction system against herself when she opened her mouth and incredibly stupid things started to pour out.

I have tried to understand the pure hate towards her. My theory is that  it has something to do with extreme left psychology and mindset.
It seems to have some strong irrational component.



Naw, I think the right has their share of haters too...

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ORIGINAL: cuckyman

Bud, France is your calling.... libs always know it all....they know who is buried in the grave of the unknowns...just ask one.  Why don't all you jerks just move to one state, and we'll help build a wall around it...you can all protest and yell 'racism' all day long.... and leave the 'unwashed' rest of us alone.... we don't want your opinions...your critique...or your values.... The fact that personal and economic freedom even exists seems to shake your types down to the core.... We don't want a big government doing what is 'best' for us..... WE make those decisions...not you...  The promise of America was FREEDOM.... and those that stand in the way of that are about to get a big dose of 'FUCK OFF'...... either be an American or get the fuck out of here.....





numuncular -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in (11/19/2009 3:29:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Fellow

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It has to do with her not being very intelligent and I would prefer my country being run by someone who is.


Who decides who is intelligent who is not?



have you not heard the woman speak?
I've had shits that have constructed more complex sentences.




SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 3:32:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


Naw, I think the right has their share of haters too...



Both sides have their share of pure haters. The troubling thing is exactly how polarized we have become. Just take a look at almost any issue and it's damn close to 50/50 for or against (give or take 10%). I think the last thing everyone agreed upon was that the attack on 9/11 was a bad thing and pissed us off. Since then, we just stand in a couple of groups and yell at each other.




Fellow -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 4:58:23 PM)

My complaint with so called "liberals" was about the excessive almost obsessive need to tear her down. There is close to zero chance she will ever reach either presidency or vice presidency. I doubt she will try.  I think she would be OK in US Congress. She could be pain in the ass for the corrupt majority there though who serve mostly themselves and their wealthy donors.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 5:02:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fellow

My complaint with so called "liberals" was about the excessive almost obsessive need to tear her down. There is close to zero chance she will ever reach either presidency or vice presidency. I doubt she will try.  I think she would be OK in US Congress. She could be pain in the ass for the corrupt majority there though who serve mostly themselves and their wealthy donors.


Her greatest value will be in fund raising and bringing out crowds in support of other candidates. Hopefully she will do that, and then cut and run so they dont become too closely identified with her. The politics of personal destruction is contagious.




DarkSteven -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 6:48:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Her greatest value will be in fund raising and bringing out crowds in support of other candidates. Hopefully she will do that, and then cut and run so they dont become too closely identified with her. The politics of person

Agreed.

The fact that she quit the governorship and then wrote a book, made some endorsements, and hit the media circuit is an indication of her plans.  If she held office, she'd be constrained by a bunch of requirements.  As a talking head/author, she can earn more and have more freedom.

And she's already made some endorsements already.  I see no reason why she'd stop.  She might be angling to have a say in what goes into the GOP platform.

I don't see her running, simply because I don't think she wants either the campaigning or the office itself.




cuckyman -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 7:03:53 PM)

The point is that Obama is failing miserably....the nation is mad about the debts and the spending and the union thugs....Sarah Palin is fresh...real...and a conservative.... and dead on target with the anger in the 'flyover' part of this nation.... You will get the point in a little over a year from now when the election returns come in for the mid term elections.....can you say 'landslide'.....  Obama is toast... and his own party is running for cover.... Sarah scares the hell out of libs.... for that reason alone I would vote for her.....




willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 7:24:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckyman

The point is that Obama is failing miserably....the nation is mad about the debts and the spending and the union thugs....Sarah Palin is fresh...real...and a conservative.... and dead on target with the anger in the 'flyover' part of this nation.... You will get the point in a little over a year from now when the election returns come in for the mid term elections.....can you say 'landslide'.....  Obama is toast... and his own party is running for cover.... Sarah scares the hell out of libs.... for that reason alone I would vote for her.....


I would vote for her because as Ive said, at her worst she couldnt be as bad as Obama. Unfortunately shes been Quayled beyond rehabilitation and is the only way to lose in 2012 barring an economic miracle.




SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 8:35:37 PM)

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I would vote for her because as Ive said, at her worst she couldnt be as bad as Obama. Unfortunately shes been Quayled beyond rehabilitation and is the only way to lose in 2012 barring an economic miracle.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


Oh the dreams of the conservatives. Let us remember that Quale was "Qualed" because he said some incredibly stupid things. Let us remember that this is a man who not only could not spell potato, but told a student to spell it wrong.

As for Palin, I don't know if you'll believe this or not, but I didn't start out with such utter contempt for her. When I first heard her speak at the republican convention, I thought she might actually be a viable political force. I didn't agree with her ideas, but I thought she spoke well, had a take charge attitude and generally presented herself as someone to take seriously. It was only after she deviated from the script that the contempt began.

Trust me when I say that anything I say against Palin is not because I want to neutralize a threat. It is because I think she is uninformed, disloyal to those around her as well as those who voted for her, uncaring about anything but her own personal gain and generally someone who would be a disaster in any position of power. It's not that I think she's so good that makes me say these things. It's that I think she's so bad.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 8:45:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

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I would vote for her because as Ive said, at her worst she couldnt be as bad as Obama. Unfortunately shes been Quayled beyond rehabilitation and is the only way to lose in 2012 barring an economic miracle.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


Oh the dreams of the conservatives. Let us remember that Quale was "Qualed" because he said some incredibly stupid things. Let us remember that this is a man who not only could not spell potato, but told a student to spell it wrong.




Your repeating of urban myths like this are why I have no respect for anything you say.

First "potatoe" is an accepted secondary spelling of the word. Second, it was the preferred spelling on the answer sheet that Quayle was given for the spelling bee. He would have been more justly criticized if he had corrected the teachers who designed the questions and answers.

Dan Quayle is one of the smartest politicians to reach the levels he did in decades and a perfect example of the media's abilities at character assasination.




SpinnerofTales -> RE: 10 Reasons That Sarah Palin Could Win the Republican Nomination &WhyPalinWillRun ForPresident in2012 (11/19/2009 8:55:15 PM)

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Your repeating of urban myths like this are why I have no respect for anything you say.

First "potatoe" is an accepted secondary spelling of the word. Second, it was the preferred spelling on the answer sheet that Quayle was given for the spelling bee. He would have been more justly criticized if he had corrected the teachers who designed the questions and answers.

Dan Quayle is one of the smartest politicians to reach the levels he did in decades and a perfect example of the media's abilities at character assasination.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy





Your repeating of urban myths like this are why I have no respect for anything you say.

First "potatoe" is an accepted secondary spelling of the word. Second, it was the preferred spelling on the answer sheet that Quayle was given for the spelling bee. He would have been more justly criticized if he had corrected the teachers who designed the questions and answers.

Dan Quayle is one of the smartest politicians to reach the levels he did in decades and a perfect example of the media's abilities at character assasination.


Let's take a look at some of the "urban legends" of this "brilliant man"
  • Let me just tell you how thrilling it really is, and how, what a challenge it is, because in 1988 the question is whether we're going forward to tomorrow or whether we're going to go past to the back! … That's a Hoosierism. You've got to get used to that!
    • Speech to California delegates to the Republican National Convention (17 August 1988)
  • Bobby Knight told me this: "There is nothing that a good defense—cannot beat a better offense." In other words a good offense wins.
    • Speech to the City Club of Chicago (8 September 1988)
  • The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.
    • Press conference (15 September 1988), reported in Esquire, 8/92, The New Yorker, 10/10/88, p.102. Actual wording: The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. [followup] No, not our nation's, but in World War II. I mean, we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century, but in this century's history.
with me you get the future.
    • Speech in Illinois (October 1988), quoted in Cathleen Decker (1988-10-19), "Quayle, in Illinois, Says He's `the Future'" Los Angeles Times
  • People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
    • Interview with Hendrik Hertzburg (October 1988), referring to Grigori Rasputin
  • We are ready for any unforseen event that may or may not occur.
    • Cited to the Cleveland Plain Dealer (27 September 1990)

  • You all look like happy campers to me. Happy campers you are, happy campers you have been, and, as far as I am concerned, happy campers you will always be.
    • Speech to American Samoans (April 1989)
  • Hawaii has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the United States that is an island that is right here.
    • Press comment in Hawaii (25 April 1989)
  • When you take the UNCF model that, what a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind is being very wasteful, how true that is.
    • Speech to the United Negro College Fund (9 May 1989), mangling the Fund's slogan "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
  • The other day [the President] said, I know you've had some rough times, and I want to do something that will show the nation what faith that I have in you, in your maturity and sense of responsibility. Would you like a puppy?
    • cited to the Los Angeles Times (16 May 1989)
  • I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy, but that could change.
    • cited to the Wall Street Journal (26 May 1989)
  • Mars is essentially in the same orbit.… Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
    • Press comment on Mars exploration (11 August 1989), televised on CNN and referenced in 9/1/89 Washington Post article: "A Quayle Vision of Mars")
  • Bearing babies irresponsibly is simply wrong. We must be unequivocal about this. It doesn't help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown—a character who supposedly epitomizes today's intelligent, highly paid, professional woman—mocking the importance of fathers, by bearing a child alone, and calling it just another "lifestyle choice."
    • Speech to the Commonwealth Club of California (19 May 1992)
  • You’re close, but you left a little something off. The "e" on the end.
    • Luis Muñoz Rivera Elementary School in Trenton, New Jersey (15 June 1992), mistakenly correcting student William Figueroa on his spelling of "potato."
  • I believe that I've made good judgments in the past, and I think I've made good judgments in the future.
  • We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to move forward.
  • We understand the importance of having the bondage between the parent and the child.
  • The future will be better tomorrow
  • I was known as the chief graverobber of my state.
Yep....one smart cookie that Quale.

It is your total disregard for the facts, your rewriting of history and your obvious lack of any grasp on either current events or history that make me rather indifferent to your respect or lack of it.




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