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Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 2:01:33 PM

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A federal grand jury has formally accused a Fort Worth couple of keeping a widowed, Nigerian mother of six in domestic servitude, or in essence holding her as their slave. According to the Justice Department, husband and wife, Emmanuel and Ngozi Nnaji, held the woman for nine years.

Officials believe the Nnajis promised the woman that she would be paid, and there would be support for her children, if she came to work for them as a domestic servant.

Part of the seven-count indictment alleges that the couple used unscrupulous means to get fraudulent immigration documents, confiscated the victim's official documents, secretly kept her in their home and forced her to work long hours with no days off for little or no pay.

Emmanuel Nnaji is also accused of sexually assaulting the victim and threatening the woman if she called police. Ngozi Nnaji is a Nigerian national.

Officials claim the couple kept the woman isolated from the outside world and refused her requests to be returned home or be paid for her services.

Along with not paying the victim, the couple also allegedly failed to provide support for the victim's children back in Nigeria. Contact with her Nigerian family was also monitored and she was prevented from attending church regularly.

The couple, who have been charged with conspiracy, forced labor, document servitude, alien harboring and false statements, was arrested on September 30.

Both Ngozi and Emmanuel Nnaji face up to 55 years in prison, if convicted. Since Ngozi Nnaji is not a U.S. citizen, if she is convicted she also faces deportation.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/slave.domestic.servitude.2.1362338.html

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 2:44:32 PM

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Just love African names. Just hate that so many Africans from that part of the continent - the area that fed the Atlantic slave trade - keep turning up in the news for this sort of thing, and worse.

The right thing to do would be to gaol these two, confiscate their property and give it to their victim who should be allowed to remain, naturalise and bring her kids over.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 2:47:45 PM

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Not sure why she should be allowed to remain, naturalise and bring her kids over. No where do i see where the government agreed with the treatment of the woman.
I think its awful what happened to her, but how does that give her the right to be a citizen?

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 2:51:02 PM

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It gives her no right. It would just be the right thing to do.
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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 3:12:43 PM

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The right thing to do would be to gaol these two, confiscate their property and give it to their victim who should be allowed to remain, naturalise and bring her kids over.

Why don't they cite the plethora of email scams originating from Nigeria and call it even?

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 3:39:56 PM

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It gives her no right. It would just be the right thing to do.
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Why is it the right thing to do? People from HER country convinced her (fraudulently) to leave her family behind and come here to work. They are being charged because what they did is illegal in our country the country where it occurred. NOT because we have a need to make amends to her for what happened to her. I agree that seizing their property and turning it over to the victim might be nice, and when you do any conversion, that property would probably go a lot further towards supporting her family in her own country.

LadyEllen, I frequently enjoy your posts, but let's get real here, this didn't happen in YOUR country, who wouldn't naturalize her and give her the right to bring her family over either in all liklihood. Most of us can understand the desperation a mother feels to do something like this thinking that they are doing something good for their family. But giving her the right to collect welfare in our country because she probably doesn't have any marketable skills or the ability to speak the language IS NOT the right thing to do.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 3:55:41 PM

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The right thing to do would be to gaol these two, confiscate their property and give it to their victim who should be allowed to remain, naturalise and bring her kids over.

Why don't they cite the plethora of email scams originating from Nigeria and call it even?

So you equate email scams with holding someone as a slave ? Please tell me that isnt what you meant.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 4:42:21 PM

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So you equate email scams with holding someone as a slave ? Please tell me that isnt what you meant.

I expected a response like this. Still has me shaking my head though.

A) It was a joke.

B) If it were not a joke, you could weigh the lives destroyed by scammers who steal millions from Americans each day with the one who was held here and who will eventually get citizenship and the 'better life' many claim to be seeking when they come here.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 4:50:18 PM

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Loki....I am sorry if you meant it as a joke. Youre comment B still makes me shake my head though.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/10/2009 4:51:39 PM

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Loki....I am sorry if you meant it as a joke. Youre comment B still makes me shake my head though.

Yeah, well many things in this world make me shake my head. You either find the gallows humor in what you can or you find a nice tall cliff off which to walk.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/11/2009 6:17:40 PM

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I read an article in the newpaper that chastised Australia for denying refugees from being admitted to the country. I still don't get why people who want to leave the country they are born in, get into a leaky ship, head out and get into trouble should be allowed into the country of their choice.

Why should Australia or America accept anyone who want to live there? There is no "right" of entry just because they put themselves into danger to get there. I understand wanting a better life, but I don't think any country has an obligation to provide that life.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/11/2009 9:44:24 PM

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FR, after read thru

I think the Aboriginal Americans should revoke everyone else's immigration status & ship 'em all back to where they came from . . . . lol . . .. Barring that, it would be nice if all the immigrants living in the US, & all the descendants of immigrants, would shut their freakin' yaps about all the other immigrants coming here, but I'm not holdin' my breath over that one, either . . . .

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/12/2009 3:32:44 AM

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FR, after read thru

I think the Aboriginal Americans should revoke everyone else's immigration status & ship 'em all back to where they came from . . . . lol . . .. Barring that, it would be nice if all the immigrants living in the US, & all the descendants of immigrants, would shut their freakin' yaps about all the other immigrants coming here, but I'm not holdin' my breath over that one, either . . . .

It's not the ones that want to come here that we have a problem with, it's the ones who flaunt our laws in order to do so. If they can't follow those simple laws, they often (way too often) have shown that they can't follow the others either.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/12/2009 11:08:59 PM

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Why should Australia or America accept anyone who want to live there? There is no "right" of entry just because they put themselves into danger to get there. I understand wanting a better life, but I don't think any country has an obligation to provide that life.

You seem to be referring to my ancestors, who left Eastern Europe in a leaky boat and made their way to America in the mid-1800's.
They had no marketable skills save trudging behind a plow, no money, couldn't speak a word of English, and were given citizenship for no other reason than they wanted it.

I do understand how you, as a Native American resent the white people's takeover of your country, but please accept that we have done some good here.

And yes, you probably resent the way we have flaunted the law by violating every treaty we ever signed, but again, cut us some slack. We now give you our Social Security checks in your gaming casinos as reparations.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/25/2009 4:53:56 PM

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I read an article in the newpaper that chastised Australia for denying refugees from being admitted to the country. I still don't get why people who want to leave the country they are born in, get into a leaky ship, head out and get into trouble should be allowed into the country of their choice.

Why should Australia or America accept anyone who want to live there? There is no "right" of entry just because they put themselves into danger to get there. I understand wanting a better life, but I don't think any country has an obligation to provide that life.

You may be looking at the question from the wrong direction. That all people have the right to free movement, to go where they want and leave when they will, has long been recognized.

A better question would be to ask what right America and Australia -- both nations born of Europeans fleeing (or cast out from) Europe and arriving on already settled land to set up home without any permission from those already living there -- have in denying anyone access to the resources of those lands.

Nation states and their borders are illusions, their authority comes from the barrel of a gun. They have no moral standing to deny others their right to move freely about this world.

And seeing things from the other side of the fence. What right have people from a country where they often them self have been part of screewing up that country from their corruption and religious fanatisme got to come in and enjoy the benefits of the soceities we have worked so hard to establish. Why must my country automatically pay out money and give a roof over the head to some person just because he/she has had the money to pay for a human smugler in their country and ask for political asylum. The last bunch in the media was turned down for refuge status by all instances but still managed to stay her on public funding for up to 10 years.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/27/2009 9:08:50 AM

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FR, after read thru

I think the Aboriginal Americans should revoke everyone else's immigration status & ship 'em all back to where they came from . . . . lol . . .. Barring that, it would be nice if all the immigrants living in the US, & all the descendants of immigrants, would shut their freakin' yaps about all the other immigrants coming here, but I'm not holdin' my breath over that one, either . . . .

Actually, DemonKia, if you took that concept far enough, everyone would end up living in Africa - since, apparently, that is where humans evolved. (yes, i know, another kettle of fish!) Can i take my A/C with me?

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/27/2009 9:12:23 AM

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Why should Australia or America accept anyone who want to live there? There is no "right" of entry just because they put themselves into danger to get there. I understand wanting a better life, but I don't think any country has an obligation to provide that life.

You seem to be referring to my ancestors, who left Eastern Europe in a leaky boat and made their way to America in the mid-1800's.
They had no marketable skills save trudging behind a plow, no money, couldn't speak a word of English, and were given citizenship for no other reason than they wanted it.

I do understand how you, as a Native American resent the white people's takeover of your country, but please accept that we have done some good here.

And yes, you probably resent the way we have flaunted the law by violating every treaty we ever signed, but again, cut us some slack. We now give you our Social Security checks in your gaming casinos as reparations.

My ancestors ended up in NZ the same way - the countries were accepting immigrants in droves (or ships) to populate the new countries and expand the tax base. Their immigration was legitimate... now, not so much. The policies have change a wee bit.

and no, i am not a Native American, and i have a negative opinion about all governments whose word is based on what is expedient at the time - which would appear to be all of them.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/27/2009 9:23:54 AM

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Sure, everybody has the "natural right" to freedom of movement. But we all know that was only practical BEFORE Karl Marx & Co. inculcated western civilization with this bizarre notion that the government owes you a living. When socialism and it's associated taxes mean YOUR freedom of movement means MY financial slavery to you, then freedom of movement is, and ought to be, dead.

My grandparents came here from southern Europe around 1905 or 1910, but they made their own way. They had 5 kids, and no one paid their medical bills for the births, and no one gave my grandfather welfare checks to support his family. He did it by hard work and convincing others to pay him for his goods and services.

If we got rid of socialism and a two-tiered tax system that gives illegal aliens an advantage, then, by all means, have freedom of movement. Until then, ship them back, ship them all back.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/27/2009 9:24:55 AM

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Why should Australia or America accept anyone who want to live there? There is no "right" of entry just because they put themselves into danger to get there. I understand wanting a better life, but I don't think any country has an obligation to provide that life.

Yes, there is, at least where Cuba is concerned.

U.S.-Cuba Migration Policy - washingtonpost.com

What is the "wet-foot, dry-foot" policy?

This is the informal named given to a 1995 agreement under which Cuban migrants seeking passage to the United States who are intercepted at sea ("wet feet") are sent back to Cuba or to a third country, while those who make it to U.S. soil ("dry feet") are allowed to remain in the United States. The policy, formally known as the U.S.-Cuba Immigration Accord, has been written into law as an amendment to the 1966 Cuban Adjustment Act.

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RE: Fort Worth Couple Accused Of Keeping Female Slave - 12/27/2009 9:34:52 AM

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So you equate email scams with holding someone as a slave ? Please tell me that isnt what you meant.

People have actually been killed for trying to stop those scams....

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