RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields

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SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:08:21 AM)
Al-Qaeda never used to be in Iraq, they all went there to fight western forces. This is how I recall events that it is easy to label people Al-Qaeda without even having any proven links to such. Then when the links can't be proven we get the old 'this is an organisation unlike any other terrorist organisation i.e. disorganised' spiel. So disorganised they can attack us in an organised way but without leaving any kind of trace really?

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:12:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You don't think that the far left's antics emboldened al-Qaeda in Iraq, and the remnants of Sadam's killing machine? quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, what they failed to plan for was anything after initial attack and the Iraquis greeting them as saviors with open arms. The initial attack worked. It has been ALL downhill from there... Come on Sanity...are you suggesting absent political discord at home(which amounted to nothing more than some bitching...Bush,politically speaking had a blank check)Al-Qaeda in Iraq would have folded its tent? This is simple...imagine no oil under that sand.....would we have went in?

tazzygirl -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:14:33 AM)
LOL BINGO!

mnottertail -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:15:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 Al-Qaeda never used to be in Iraq, they all went there to fight western forces. This is how I recall events that it is easy to label people Al-Qaeda without even having any proven links to such. Then when the links can't be proven we get the old 'this is an organisation unlike any other terrorist organisation i.e. disorganised' spiel. So disorganised they can attack us in an organised way but without leaving any kind of trace really? Well, you've heard the old chestnut, boots on the ground? Sandals on the ground are swifter. Gen. Omar Bradley

starshineowned -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:26:07 AM)
quote: This is simple...imagine no oil under that sand.....would we have went in? Does this mean then it wasn't really all about Bush Jr. taking out Saddam because he tried to whack Daddy? Or is that one still on the tables to? starshine

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 9:45:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: starshineowned quote: This is simple...imagine no oil under that sand.....would we have went in? Does this mean then it wasn't really all about Bush Jr. taking out Saddam because he tried to whack Daddy? Or is that one still on the tables to? starshine Absent the oil in the region would Bush sr. have gone in there in the first place? Concern for Kuwait....tell me this are there no other despots in the world...why aren't we in Dafur right now....no its about oil...and given our dependance on the black gold I'm not saying that is an altogether bad thing.....but the lie about wmd was just that a lie...

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:05:43 AM)
The problem with your bizarre little theory is that if it was a lie then the Clintons were in on the lie, and Al Gore was in on the lie... along with Kerry and Pelosi, and the rest of the whole friggin' gang. quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Absent the oil in the region would Bush sr. have gone in there in the first place? Concern for Kuwait....tell me this are there no other despots in the world...why aren't we in Dafur right now....no its about oil...and given our dependance on the black gold I'm not saying that is an altogether bad thing.....but the lie about wmd was just that a lie...

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:09:19 AM)
How was Al Gore involved in the WMD lie?...please enlighten me.

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:15:04 AM)
You're really going to pretend you haven't seen the quotes? Thats funny... [:D] And no, I'm not going to waste my time looking them up for you. quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u How was Al Gore involved in the WMD lie?...please enlighten me.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:20:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity And no, I'm not going to waste my time looking them up for you. I love it when you say this. So this action would take a long time? Surely if they are well know it only takes a few words in Google to find a result? Or perhaps the quote is in some book contained in a secretive right wing library at the back of the bat cave? Time to get that key and take a walk down to the bottom of the garden?

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:31:12 AM)
They're readily available and they've been posted in these forums hundreds of times, its public knowledge, and so why should I waste my time. Only trolls would try to pretend they don't exist. quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 I love it when you say this. So this action would take a long time? Surely if they are well know it only takes a few words in Google to find a result? Or perhaps the quote is in some book contained in a secretive right wing library at the back of the bat cave? Time to get that key and take a walk down to the bottom of the garden?

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:31:13 AM)
Whats laughable is your clinging to some right wing mantra about WMD...everyone else has moved on Sanity....your right wing membership card will not be revoked,you can do this...all it takes is opening your eyes and wiping the bush/cheney stardust out of them!

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 10:33:41 AM)
Moved on, hmm? [:D] You're the one who dragged it out, and that tired old dog just will not hunt, mike. quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Whats laughable is your clinging to some right wing mantra about WMD...everyone else has moved on Sanity....your right wing membership card will not be revoked,you can do this...all it takes is opening your eyes and wiping the bush/cheney stardust out of them!

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:00:27 AM)
Okay Sanity,let me ask you straight out....what about WMD ?do you now realise it was a lie? and do you even wonder if your President knew that or was just a victim of analysts seeking to please their boss(Bush)? And finally do you beleive he lied to the American people knowingly? or again was he also a victim of the lie?

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:06:37 AM)
And here you were just now informing me that everyone has moved on... quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Okay Sanity,let me ask you straight out....what about WMD ?do you now realise it was a lie? and do you even wonder if your President knew that or was just a victim of analysts seeking to please their boss(Bush)? And finally do you beleive he lied to the American people knowingly? or again was he also a victim of the lie?

Silence8 -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:09:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Okay Sanity,let me ask you straight out....what about WMD ?do you now realise it was a lie? and do you even wonder if your President knew that or was just a victim of analysts seeking to please their boss(Bush)? And finally do you beleive he lied to the American people knowingly? or again was he also a victim of the lie? Hey, man, those were credible sources... that wasn't just any taxi driver!

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:13:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity And here you were just now informing me that everyone has moved on... quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Okay Sanity,let me ask you straight out....what about WMD ?do you now realise it was a lie? and do you even wonder if your President knew that or was just a victim of analysts seeking to please their boss(Bush)? And finally do you beleive he lied to the American people knowingly? or again was he also a victim of the lie? How about before you move on ...you answer the damm questions.....slipping and sliding has become second nature to you....hasn't it? Of course if you can't or won't answer the question I understand.....all of your right wing love fest for Bush is tied up in avoiding these types of questions...so don't sweat it.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:19:12 AM)
I don't even need to take him off of ignore to know what he's chattering about. The fact of the matter is, Gore, the Clintons, and most other democratic political leaders bear a significant share of the blame for not having the brains to know they were being lied to and the balls to stand up and defy the tide. They had a moral responsibility, and they failed to meet it. That, however, does not lessen the blame that Cheney and his minions deserve for lying in the first place and spending almost a year and a half whipping the American people into a terrified frenzy to make the war possible. Most intelligent people can understand this distinction. Those who can't are hardly worth arguing with, and are best left on ignore.

slvemike4u -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:29:27 AM)
I can't do that Panda....the comedy is just too good.

Sanity -> RE: Shell Wins Rights To Iraq's Giant Manjoon Oil Fields (12/12/2009 11:35:15 AM)
And here I was thinking that "Orion The Wolf" only made MusicMystery put me on ignore... But now I learn that there are two of you! quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda I don't even need to take him off of ignore to know what he's chattering about.

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