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pahunkboy -> Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:16:43 AM)

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9186 


congressman Reid explains.




mnottertail -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:18:50 AM)

man, that sort of stupid shit has shown up time and again. Adjust meds and forget it.

Sell your fucking silver and make your housepayments and stay off the street hunky.

Ron




Lucienne -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:23:07 AM)

I can't wait for the day he discovers we faked the moon landing.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:24:05 AM)

The police protecting people is voluntary as well and so is people collecting your rubbish all voluntary.

Also if your house is on fire the fire department might not turn up; it all really depends if they can be arsed to, perhaps if they are in the middle of a poker game and that bell rings they'll give it a miss on that occasion.




pahunkboy -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:24:18 AM)

I dont know his double talk is a new one on me.

My mortgage is current.




Lucylastic -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:27:42 AM)

What is this guy on? and no I dont mean PA




pahunkboy -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:29:39 AM)

He has no idea how contradictory he sounds.

...maybe he is confused.   some in government dont bother to pay taxes.




pahunkboy -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:38:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucienne

I can't wait for the day he discovers we faked the moon landing.


We have been to the moon.   Maybe further.   The technology take off- could not occur had we not been.




mnottertail -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:43:10 AM)

When you have set out to paint someone into a semantic corner based on rather false premises and wantonly insincere word usage, it isn't hard to do, PA.

The whale is undoubtably one of the largest mammals alive today. Any other stance is indefensible, but it does not preclude people trying to defend those illusory stances.

Ron




Jeffff -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:54:32 AM)

I am never going to pay taxes again.

Then I am never going to answer the door when the feds come kockin'.

Then I am never going to go to jail.


AProudAmerican!




Lucylastic -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:56:03 AM)

Anteaters of the world UNITE




Real0ne -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 11:11:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucienne

I can't wait for the day he discovers we faked the moon landing.


We have been to the moon.   Maybe further.   The technology take off- could not occur had we not been.



if you were not there you do not know what is true.

If the magic is good good you do not know what was true even if you were there.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 11:17:19 AM)

Indeed and also:

The bigger the lie the more people are willing to believe it. Take for example the Ronald McDonald conspiracy: who'd have thought such a thing could ever be true and even with the patchy holes in this gruesome story of cannibalism people are still willing to believe the cover story rather than the truth.




Fellow -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 1:59:58 PM)

I you own a business you are free to move your office to Cayman islands. It is voluntary.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 2:09:30 PM)

A hell of a commute though, as they say.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 8:08:13 PM)

Taxes are voluntary in the US. It's really simple, actually.

Don't make any money, apply for government assistance. You pay no net taxes.

Millions do it. So, can you. Call 1-800-LeechUS, for your inexpensive information packet.

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Sarcasm off.





UncleNasty -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 9:36:04 PM)

Clearly neither of those fellows has spent much time reading the tax code. Also pretty clear the Reid is a pure politician with the finest honed skills of putting lipstick on a pig.

Anteaters of the world UNITE!

Uncle Nasty




Termyn8or -> RE: Taxes are voluntary in the US (12/28/2009 10:07:34 PM)

Fuck whatever anyone else says. ahunkboypay, icksnay on the uckingfay axestay.

Do you get my drift ? Those of us who know already know, if you spread it around shit will hit the fan. You are damn lucky that people don't believe you, because once they do you are going down. Look up the history of a Man called Wilhelm Schmitt (may have been Schmidt). He did just about the best job of convincing people ever, I actually admired him a bit. He disappeared off the face of the planet one day.

Amazing guy too, older gentleman somehow simultateously assaulted about a dozen armed federal agents with his bare hands. I mean this must be up there with Jesus throwing the moneychangers out of the temple !

So they throw him in jail and he is a very well learned Man, legal scholar with a few other things under his belt. He is a teahcer in jail and it wasn't so bad. I guess they didn't like his style because they pulled him off that job, which IIRC he was noted to be very effective at, and given a broom.

He refused to work and spent literally YEARS in the hole. But he would not do anything else. The judge said he had to be there, that is all.

He disappeared a few years after his release. Yes he was starting all this up again. I have an article or two of his saved. He makes the case, case closed. Uses their own book against them. Very intelligent Man indeed. Gone now.

I'm just saying, cool it off. We know what can be done if you take the bit by the teeth and pull hard enough. The enemy depends on secrecy, the threat of embarrassment to them is as effective as their threat to us of jail. This fact has not been a secret for alot longer than you or I have been alive. But the threat has to be real. If you do not fear going to jail, do as thou wilt. If in jail, in a way you are actually freer. How can they put you in jail if you are already in jail ? Likewise if you expose them, or embarrass them, the threat is gone as it has already come to pass. Like in the finer martial arts, this is the equivalent of using their own force against them. You know what they want.

I think we do alot better to attack the whole system just a bit. Let people see, let them form their own opinions. When they direct themselves toward something, provide it if possible. Drilling the hammer home on certain points is nowhere near as productive.

For one, you don't want to pay taxes ? Get ready to study for about two years before you even think about it. You have to represent yourself pro se. This is no joke, and it will be hell just getting the court to let you do it, but they must. And you must.

Don't make yourself a target. A wise Man chooses his batles carefully.

T




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