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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:06:59 PM

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there is a LARGE difference between abuse and Kink enjoyment...

I LOVE being bitten marked otherwise bruises, many would see it as abuse, however for me its a sexual enjoyment.

if you did to someone other then me, they might see it as abuse... the thing you seem to dont understand is abuse to me, is something non consensual, its pain im NOT consenting to its and act im NOT consenting to..

and non-consent play aside. many people have issues with things that are truly non consensual...

There are actually men and women here who say that they want to be abused. Abused and beaten and humiliated and destroyed and all that. I think you're getting caught up in semantics here - if someone says, up front, "I am looking for a woman to abuse," on a BDSM site, it's a fair guess that they're looking for someone to consent to it.

After all if someone said "I'm looking for a woman to tie up and have sex with" there'd be no question in your mind that it was meant consensually, on this site. Why is this any different? Abuse is beating and degrading someone. Abusive behaviour isn't defined by consent, it's defined by its abusiveness.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:08:17 PM

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LP? that would require an open mind. It is no sin to know what you want and act accordingly, but for all his questions and apparent seeking, I don't see osf as having an open mind.

nothing really personal, just an observation.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:10:22 PM

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one can abuse ones self

can any one say cutting?

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:11:55 PM

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ok they're playing the Horst-Wessel-Lied and i'm getting into the mood

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:17:25 PM

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i've never seen a man beat a woman like that and i have seen many vicious dommes

unusual for a man to be that way with a woman too

they can be cruel

Your lack of seeing it has very little bearing on it. Sadism is very much alive and well out there. Gender of the top has very little to do with it.

I don't call it "usual" as sadism isn't especially what most people would identify as "normal". I also don't call it cruel, abusive, or many other terms that, while on the surface may seem similar, but are actually far different things.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:20:07 PM

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i've never seen a man beat a woman like that and i have seen many vicious dommes

unusual for a man to be that way with a woman too

they can be cruel

Your lack of seeing it has very little bearing on it. Sadism is very much alive and well out there. Gender of the top has very little to do with it.

I don't call it "usual" as sadism isn't especially what most people would identify as "normal". I also don't call it cruel, abusive, or many other terms that, while on the surface may seem similar, but are actually far different things.

but you have to admit women wielding the whip seem to have a heavier hand than the average man wielding one?

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:20:44 PM

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Vicious is an odd word too.

It has never seemed vicious to me............... I suppose it could look like it.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:21:55 PM

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and sadism, not sure what that means anymore

being all fucked up i only enjoy torturing my love objects for some strange reason, but i'm kind to animals and strangers

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:22:59 PM

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Vicious is an odd word too.

It has never seemed vicious to me............... I suppose it could look like it.

Jeff

i have seen a couple that i really thought hated men, for real

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:24:49 PM

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osf? I would not say there is anything wrong with that........

But dude... your presentaion sucks. And don't blame it on the typing. I am probably amoung the worst typists here.

My spelling also blows.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:25:24 PM

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but you have to admit women wielding the whip seem to have a heavier hand than the average man wielding one?

No, I really couldn't say that at all. It's too much of a generalization on either side. Also, it's impossible for Me to define average. There's just no way to define a standard.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:25:58 PM

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osf? I would not say there is anything wrong with that........

But dude... your presentaion sucks. And don't blame it on the typing. I am probably amoung the worst typists here.

My spelling also blows.

Jeff

take your time jeff you nay figure me out

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:27:16 PM

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but you have to admit women wielding the whip seem to have a heavier hand than the average man wielding one?

No, I really couldn't say that at all. It's too much of a generalization on either side. Also, it's impossible for Me to define average. There's just no way to define a standard.

different circles, different impressions

but i did know two that scared the bejesus out of me lol

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:29:22 PM

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Vicious is an odd word too.

It has never seemed vicious to me............... I suppose it could look like it.
Jeff

i have seen a couple that i really thought hated men, for real

Well that can happen when you hand someone something and say,"hit me with this"

When are people gonna stand up and take responsibilities for thier own fucking actions?

Perhaps they liked it?. If not their bad.

The whole notion of a general "community " has fucked up almost as many folks as religion.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:30:50 PM

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Vicious is an odd word too.

It has never seemed vicious to me............... I suppose it could look like it.
Jeff

i have seen a couple that i really thought hated men, for real

Well that can happen when you hand someone something and say,"hit me with this"

When are people gonna stand up and take responsibilities for thier own fucking actions?

Perhaps they liked it?. If not their bad.

The whole notion of a general "community " has fucked up almost as many folks as religion.

Jeff

think i said some,few,two

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:34:03 PM

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So you have seen TWO women who hated men. Big fuckin' deal. Whats your point?

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:35:59 PM

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Two women who hated men or were sadistic enough to scare you?

If it's the latter, I can promise if you ever have the chance to observe Me in a play environment where I'm topping, it will be three.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:37:00 PM

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So you have seen TWO women who hated men. Big fuckin' deal. Whats your point?

Jeff

i don't feel like rehashing all my posts on it

and beside my remarks were directed elsewhere

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:37:36 PM

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If it's the latter, I can promise if you ever have the chance to observe Me in a play environment where I'm topping, it will be three.

She really isn't kidding.

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RE: on your list of requirements - 12/31/2009 5:37:59 PM

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i feel like starting another thread, any suggestions?

A short biographical piece on Dale Carnegie.

Kidding aside, I generally like your threads, or the subject of many of them, but as others have said, sometimes your delivery gets in the way, osf. Not trying to be rude, just offering an opinion.

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