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RE: The evolution of the USA ? - 12/31/2009 12:09:43 PM

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No, our main problem is that we're devolving into the very ways of socialism and tyranny of all-powerful central government that many who fled to our nation of immigrants worked so hard to escape from. Look at the next thread over, if someone dares to vary from the socialist norm there isn't any part of his private life, or no lie that won't be dredged up in order to try to vilify him.

We are becoming a nation of slaves, but the injustice is being relabeled as "justice" now.

Sanity, isn't it possible we have always been a nation of slaves: indentured servants from Europe, black slaves from the African bush, indigenous natives where we found them, post-reconstruction prisoners on chain gangs hired out by the state or county, chinese men recruited to build the railroads in the West, Irish, Jew and Italian wage slaves in the most horrendus garment factories either side of the turn of the nineteen century, and now cheap labor imported from Mexico and Latin America as "illegals." Not to mention the long history of supression of women. Somehow we overlook these obscenities when we patriotically proclaim ourselves a nation of free man and woman. I think our history has been one of the "selectively" free, well connected men. Perhaps you do not see it that way.

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RE: The evolution of the USA ? - 12/31/2009 12:27:53 PM

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Sanity, isn't it possible we have always been a nation of slaves: indentured servants from Europe, black slaves from the African bush, indigenous natives where we found them, post-reconstruction prisoners on chain gangs hired out by the state or county, chinese men recruited to build the railroads in the West, Irish, Jew and Italian wage slaves in the most horrendus garment factories either side of the turn of the nineteen century, and now cheap labor imported from Mexico and Latin America as "illegals." Not to mention the long history of supression of women. Somehow we overlook these obscenities when we patriotically proclaim ourselves a nation of free man and woman. I think our history has been one of the "selectively" free, well connected men. Perhaps you do not see it that way.

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RE: The evolution of the USA ? - 12/31/2009 9:23:32 PM

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It's not the truth because what you've done is like telling the story of little red riding hood without mentioning the fact the wolf ate her at the end. Most nations have dark periods within their history and most people can't admit to them. You seem to be going back a little too far in history to find the last example of injustice.

SL4, that's true and we had a long dark period beginning in 1993 till the end of Bush. I'm hoping that Obama will come to his senses and start taking care of the *United States of America* for a change like we're *paying him* to do and like he took an oath to do and stop interfering in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

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RE: The evolution of the USA ? - 12/31/2009 9:28:50 PM

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Everything is relative Vincent, there are very few absolutes in this world.

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Sanity, isn't it possible we have always been a nation of slaves: indentured servants from Europe, black slaves from the African bush, indigenous natives where we found them, post-reconstruction prisoners on chain gangs hired out by the state or county, chinese men recruited to build the railroads in the West, Irish, Jew and Italian wage slaves in the most horrendus garment factories either side of the turn of the nineteen century, and now cheap labor imported from Mexico and Latin America as "illegals." Not to mention the long history of supression of women. Somehow we overlook these obscenities when we patriotically proclaim ourselves a nation of free man and woman. I think our history has been one of the "selectively" free, well connected men. Perhaps you do not see it that way.

Of course, you are right, Sanity. But the comparison here is the reality of history to the propaganda of history. Propaganda wins out because we have a short memory for historical events whilst propaganda confronts us daily as simplistic and superficial slogans.

Keep in mind that we have been an expanionist people since the landing at Jamestown and Teddy Roosevelt was not content to stop with the closing of the West. so, I wonder what is the true meaning of American Exceptionalism or when, if it did, has it crossed over into American Empire?

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RE: The evolution of the USA ? - 1/1/2010 8:32:43 AM

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Everything is relative Vincent, there are very few absolutes in this world.

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Sanity, isn't it possible we have always been a nation of slaves: indentured servants from Europe, black slaves from the African bush, indigenous natives where we found them, post-reconstruction prisoners on chain gangs hired out by the state or county, chinese men recruited to build the railroads in the West, Irish, Jew and Italian wage slaves in the most horrendus garment factories either side of the turn of the nineteen century, and now cheap labor imported from Mexico and Latin America as "illegals." Not to mention the long history of supression of women. Somehow we overlook these obscenities when we patriotically proclaim ourselves a nation of free man and woman. I think our history has been one of the "selectively" free, well connected men. Perhaps you do not see it that way.

OMFG ... you wax on about how your shit does not stink and when someone hands you a sample that clearly does stink you come up with ..."everything is relative"
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
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