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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/20/2006 4:11:18 PM   
jennalynn


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Status: offline 		A collar to me is a symbol of the commitment we would share.

It would not even need to be a collar dangling from my neck, it is something worn around my heart when i am with the One i have submitted to.

i have a friend who wears a 'protection' collar from the Master she calls her Mentor.  It is important to her so it is necessary.

jenna

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/20/2006 5:32:56 PM   
TheTopHat


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ORIGINAL: GddssBella

G'morning all:


I've heard all kinds of references made to "training collars", "collars of consideration", "collars of protection", what have you. My own personal opinion is that a collar is equivalent to vanilla marriage. It should not be given or taken lightly. These other "levels" are something I've seen bandied about, here and in other circles. I'd like some input, views, ideas, definitions as to these "other" collars and when such circumstances are feasible, warranted, or desirable.

Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...



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When fantasizing.  Relationships, be they 'marriage' in vanilla society or a collar in BDSM circles are defined, by the values, rules beliefs that the participants impose upon themselves.  They are never defined by societal doctrine -- and that applies across all boundries, be they the regular folks down the street, a master and a slave or an Arab prince & his harem.  The most 'societal decrees' can do is set some absolute boundries for one or the other party (ie. divorce laws).


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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/20/2006 6:29:42 PM   
DiannaVesta


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Status: offline 		I think that collars are sexy and symbolic. As LuckyA stated you can adopt any meaning you want. When place a collar around someone’s neck it means, “I want you.” I have another collar, more permanent that means, “I’ll keep you.”   For the latter I like those Eternity Collars w/ankle and wrist restraints.   www.eternitycollars.com/

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/20/2006 6:41:42 PM   
Evanesce


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Status: offline 		I believe in and acknowledge only one collar - the collar of ownership.  If others feel the need for "practice" collars, they're certainly free to call them whatever they want, but I don't view any collar but one as being valid.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/21/2006 3:08:33 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		I've sometimes noticed [puported] dommes wearing collars (women in particular).  While the symbolism may be mixed up, I think some people view them  as "fashion accessories" in the scene.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/21/2006 3:30:30 PM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

I've sometimes noticed [puported] dommes wearing collars (women in particular).  While the symbolism may be mixed up, I think some people view them  as "fashion accessories" in the scene.

Regards,
ATP


Where I come from, it is not uncommon for a domme to wear a collar with is different indesign thata slave collar. One friend commented that it's use is more like the reason the marines are refered to as Leather necks. (The had to sleep with wide, thick leather collars wo sailors couldn't cut their throats when they slept).


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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/21/2006 5:33:46 PM   
Slipstreme


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quote:

I've sometimes noticed [puported] dommes wearing collars (women in particular).  While the symbolism may be mixed up, I think some people view them  as "fashion accessories" in the scene.



That is what I was trying to hint at with my post. Some people, myself included, simply like collars, regardless of where we fall in D/s.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/21/2006 10:33:45 PM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		i am sure this has ben said already but think of it like a ring.

you have:
friendship
engagement
marriage
and virtually any label you wish toput on it.  it is used to demonstrate something significant


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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/22/2006 4:34:05 AM   
redangel


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Status: offline 		Collars from the beginning were to show ownership. That said any collar such as a training collar can only be if that person owns another. It may be ownership for a specific time period while the person is under their control. Too often we see collars given before the people involved even know one another. It takes the person off the market while they learn if they are compatible. To me that's not a collaring but going "steady" in the vanilla world. If they don't have the trust in one another to say "sorry I'm seeing someone and would like to see where it leads", then they have no business even having a collar. A collar is NOT status as so many assume. Even a collar given as a symbol of training (hate that term) should be given the respect that the owner of the collar has assumed responsibility for this person and will answer if they faulter. House collars are also given to those who may be ensconced in a household for a period of time or attached to a leather family. As someone else pointed out it's a symbol, but it's a symbol in our lifestyle that carries the weight of an engagement or wedding ring, not costume jewelry. The collar means I answer to the Top who has placed the collar around my neck. It's not there to say "Hey, look at me I'm a sub." No status symbol can have the weight that knowing deep inside a person serves another while that collar is there.

angel 

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/25/2006 3:19:56 PM   
sweetbbwsub31


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Status: offline 		My experience was with a training collar and then an ownership collar. Once owned, i had public and private collars.
 
I believe in the honor of a collar and can still remember the overwhelming feeling of the first time I was collared.
 
It is my opinion that it is a very powerful tool.
 
However, once owned.. the collar is always there even though it may not be always visible.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/25/2006 5:34:50 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		A good collar should be strong and firmly secured so that little hands cant unfasten it and slave poachers cant remove it without a struggle.

A good collar which musy have a sturdy ring built into it is essential for neck chaining to a fixed point, leashing and neck chaining within a collel. (Although this can be done also ny wrist chainingand ankle chaining.

Harness leather is good for collars but steel is best.





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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/25/2006 9:49:47 PM   
groundling


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Status: offline 		A collar can be anything.I myself have worn (and made) collars for everything from a lifelong commitment to the finishing touch on the perfect outfit.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/25/2006 11:17:16 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		Collars as accessories?

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 12:03:16 AM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Ive never had anything but an ownership collar but thinking about this topic, I guess you could equate different types of collars with different types of rings.

Like you can have a friendship ring, a dress ring, an engagement ring, a wedding ring, an eternity ring etc. why couldnt there be all different types of meanings to collars?

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 5:01:53 AM   
IronBear


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Collars as accessories?

 
Absolutely..... A piece of Gorean Steel is supurb decoration abouyt a girl's neck, especially when the Master has the only key.. Such lovely accessories as chain can be attached too... Such a collar and even chain (especially a shirik) is excelent accessories for all forms of dress and best for nudity too...

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 8:05:38 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Collars as accessories?

 
Absolutely..... A piece of Gorean Steel is supurb decoration abouyt a girl's neck, especially when the Master has the only key.. Such lovely accessories as chain can be attached too... Such a collar and even chain (especially a shirik) is excelent accessories for all forms of dress and best for nudity too...


Yes, it is one thing if the Master adorns her with it.  But i understood groundling's post as something she might wear for fun.  i may have misunderstood, and if so, i stand corrected and thank you for replying.

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 8:41:27 AM   
Phoenixandnika


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Protection collars:
I know many bottoms both slave and submissive who do not like to go to play party's or lifestyle clubs alone or uncollared.Myself included. So they seek out a Dominate that they trust and ask to have a "protection" collar placed on for the duration of the party.I have never really understood "protection" collars online unless you are using that Dominate to help screen prospective Dominates. I have seen this done as well many times. A dominate is interested in a sub/slave and is told to speak with "their protector" about the idea of meeting ect.  
 
Collars of consideration:
I see this as a test drive of sorts for both the Dominate and submissive. This a time to see if they can meet each others needs and if in fact they are compatable.
 
Training Collars:
I was personally in a training collar of a Dominate for a little over a year. He taught me many things including positions, party or scene etiquette, helped me learn about various toys(floggers,crops, ect), helped me to learn to bite my tongue and even what punishments of Dominate could feel like both physically and emotionally.
 
qoute:
My own personal opinion is that a collar is equivalent to vanilla marriage.
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I have to say this statement has always annoyed the heck out of me. I am sorry I do not see a collar as an equvilent to a wedding ring. Why? Well one is legally binding the other is simply something personal that I place value on. The state, my Masters employer, ect does not recognize my collar.
 
In my eyes that is like saying just because a grapefruit has juice,peel, and vitaman C that is is the equvulant of an orange. They are two different things.
 
Nika{Phoenix}
 

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 8:45:18 AM   
Phoenixandnika


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Collars as accessories?

 
Absolutely..... A piece of Gorean Steel is supurb decoration abouyt a girl's neck, especially when the Master has the only key.. Such lovely accessories as chain can be attached too... Such a collar and even chain (especially a shirik) is excelent accessories for all forms of dress and best for nudity too...


Iron Bear,
I have to agree with you a collar can be a wonderful accessory.There are so many various styles of collars that a slave/ submissive coule change collars depending on the event or outfit or simply her owners mood.

I have NEVER seen a shirik in person though the pictures I have seen do look beautiful.

Nika{Phoenix}
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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 9:02:03 AM   
Nosathro


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Status: offline 		greetings
 
As a person who makes collars.  Mine are not made of velcro, I have at the request of the buyer not add a lock, but I perfer locks.  A collar I do admit can be decorative.  I have made collars one of public and one for private.  For my personal view a collar has three functions.
 
1.  Remind the wear of their status..they are a slave
2.  Remind the slave they are owned.
3.  Remind the slave who their Owner is.

My collars have locks and I am the only one with a key.
 
I wish you well
 
Nosathro

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RE: Collaring levels... - 3/26/2006 9:05:58 AM   
SirLordTrainer


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Status: offline 		Greetings Bella, I know for Me personally and speaking strictly from a realtime perspective I will use a training collar first and should things develop further, a collar of consideration may be in order, and definetly prior to Ownership.
quote:

ORIGINAL: GddssBella

G'morning all:


I've heard all kinds of references made to "training collars", "collars of consideration", "collars of protection", what have you. My own personal opinion is that a collar is equivalent to vanilla marriage. It should not be given or taken lightly. These other "levels" are something I've seen bandied about, here and in other circles. I'd like some input, views, ideas, definitions as to these "other" collars and when such circumstances are feasible, warranted, or desirable.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...





Bella


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