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tazzygirl -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 7:02:23 AM)

But the evidence they gather is used in criminal cases, is sealed, and is not available to the defendent.

This expansion also included the power for evidence gathered in FISA surveillance and searches to be used in criminal proceedings. However, all information regarding the order and any evidence obtained under the order are permanently sealed and classified “top secret.” The effect of this provision has been that US citizens are being charged with crimes in federal court and not allowed to review the evidence against them, nor are their attorneys permitted to see the warrants that authorized the search.

http://www.snapshield.com/www_problems/United_States/Inside%20America's%20Secret%20Court%20-%20Patrick%20S_%20Poole.htm



luckydawg -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 12:09:16 PM)

How would FISA/FISC be relevant to a yemini caught fighting with al Queda in Afghanistan?


Sorry that you think asking for a relevant response is a little boys game. Tells us a lot about you.



but you haven't given one.

As I said way back, congress needs to create a NEW COURT that can handle the secret evidence to prosecute foriegn terrorists.





mnottertail -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 12:12:25 PM)

and my answer to that is that a tribunal can be created by authority of congress, and they would have the same laws and precedents and constitution to follow as any other court, because you can't create a new constitution, I am going to guess probably because it is unconstitutional.




luckydawg -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 12:16:39 PM)

FISC isn't unconstitutional. try to keep up.



mnottertail -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 12:35:49 PM)

You said:

As I said way back, congress needs to create a NEW COURT that can handle the secret evidence to prosecute foriegn terrorists.

I said:
and my answer to that is that a tribunal can be created by authority of congress, and they would have the same laws and precedents and constitution to follow as any other court, because you can't create a new constitution, I am going to guess probably because it is unconstitutional.

you said:

FISC isn't unconstitutional. try to keep up.
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You can't be that fuckin moronic.



luckydawg -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 4:01:21 PM)

You are unable to comprehend the details of a case you cite, and call me a moron....


Have fun pretending you are right.



housesub4you -> RE: right wingers losing their memories? (1/13/2010 4:28:41 PM)

yea the only way to end the game is not to play, just saying.  You can't even tie when the rules are changed by the other team whenever they wish



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