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xxblushesxx -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/16/2010 3:19:37 PM)

A part of me wishes more men were allowed to act out these fantasies. For MANY (not the OP, in this case, I don't think) the reason for the acting it out is more of the "taboo" aspect than anything else.

A part of me is a little bit glad they don't because I make most of my living talking to my "sissie boys" and my "cuckie boys". For most of them it's just a fantasy they act out over the phone. Some are serious lifestyle people who just want to talk to someone who understands them.

It does make me sad in a way though, that these men who are (for the most part) bright, articulate, fun and funny can't share such a basic part of who they are with their SO's. I admit, I have a real soft spot in my heart for these guys.

Of course, there are ALL different reasons they do this or fantasize about it. Some get off on humiliation. With them it can run the spectrum from dressing the part, to being teased about their small penises, and being made to service other men. Some just like to wear the clothes. It's fun, and it feels good. Some would like to live as a woman either part or full time, and there should be NO humiliation involved at all.

OP, just take your time. You're cute as heck, and will find one who will accept you who you are. It takes time. (and an attitude like yours!)

Best of luck to you!

~Christina



somethingXclever -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/16/2010 5:51:00 PM)

Thanks for Your kind words Blushes. i actually didn't post this with the intent of finding a partner of any sort (i'm actually seeing a girl now who finds cross dressing to be a turn on, which is awesome for me lol), but rather i posted this out of real interest just because i've rarely seen a response to a "forced femme" thread that seemed to show cross dressing in a positive light, or i suppose better wording for that would be that few people seemed to think highly of cross dressing. As someone who cross dresses because that is a part of who i am and not necessarily a kink i found that really disheartening and so i wanted to see if people were posting negative comments just to troll the posters of those horrible threads or if there was a real dislike for people who don't fit into traditional gender roles in the D/s community.

Also Andalusite, i would like to say that a) i thought that idea was hilarious, and b) the only reason i enjoy the idea of a role play scene involving forced femme is because i enjoy humiliation play generally no matter what type of clothing (or lack thereof) i am in. But i can understand that some might not like that kind of play, theres a lot of things i'm not a huge fan of, but i just wanted to clear that up :)



AlexandraLynch -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 1:37:11 AM)

Actually, I played with someone like that tonight.

Zie comes crossdressed, gets admired if zie wears hot shoes, or a really neat dress, or whatever, in the same way we'd notice a girl. Crossdressing, as far as I am concerned is a fetish just like my liking for having exceptionally long hair; while it's hot if a partner plays with the hair or brushes it out, fundamentally that's my kink, and it's not someone else's responsibility to facilitate it. This particular person and I have talked about it, and zie agrees; this is hir thing, and zie likes having hir shoes admired or the effect of the cardigan with the bustier, but if no one says anything about the clothes, zie doesn't feel cheated. (Of course, this rarely happens, because zie has fucking amazing style, and I wish I could rock those heels.)



LadyNTrainer -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 10:48:11 AM)

For me anyways, you're asking the wrong question.  What's relevant to me is not "does this submissive like to do X" but "who is he as a person".  I know some intelligent, personable, charming, polite and considerate cross dressers I am delighted to play with.  I've also encountered some selfish do-me queens whose interest in their fetish wardrobe far exceeded their interest in their human partner's wants and needs.  I appreciate and am happy to indulge the former, and I wouldn't fuck the latter with a ten-foot strap-on pole.  Or maybe I would if I was annoyed enough at them, but the bitch would have to take it all.  [:D]



hardbodysub -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 2:14:18 PM)

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...hurr durr...


What the hell is "hurr durr"? Never heard that expression before.



somethingXclever -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 3:00:29 PM)

hurr durr is an expression from deep within the interwebs, its essentially the sound of being retarded lol



KITTYLECTRO -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 4:08:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: somethingXclever

The point is that i've seen my share of responses to the weekly forced fem threads saying things like “if I wanted a girl I'd get a girl” or similar, seemingly, anti-femme sub comments, so my question is: ...


My question is, why should you desire approval from the type of person who has a compulsion to make anti-femme comments in any thread?

No mater how many hoops you jump through to become legitimate in their eyes, their resentment will probably always always be a part of them.

What I suggest you do is click that little "Hide" button whenever you see anti-femme comments. I discovered this nifty little feature last night and it immediately made my experience here much more enjoyable.



LadyAngelika -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/17/2010 4:54:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KITTYLECTRO

quote:

ORIGINAL: somethingXclever

The point is that i've seen my share of responses to the weekly forced fem threads saying things like “if I wanted a girl I'd get a girl” or similar, seemingly, anti-femme sub comments, so my question is: ...


My question is, why should you desire approval from the type of person who has a compulsion to make anti-femme comments in any thread?


My question is why do you equate someone not being attracted to you as someone not approving of you.

Would I date a m2f transgendered person, highly unlikely because it doesn't fit in my kink. I actually have a fetish for very masculine men. You want what you want and I want what I want. And all of this is ok. I can understand that it can be frustrating at times.

I'm not sure if I am part of the ones Kitti decided to block last night. If I am, it is unfortunate because I wrote her authentic words in response to her anger about her assumption that transgendered people were not accepted here in this post that she ignored. But I will repost them for your benefit.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
In fact, quite the opposite. I see a whole lot of openess on these boards.

Kitty, honestly, you shouldn't be so quick to judge us. I look over at the Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, Kate Bornstein, Judith Bulter books on my bookshelf which are dog eared from all the essays and research I did 10 years ago on gender. Throughout my life I've had transgendered friends. I even talk earlier on this thread of having an ex-girlfriend who liked to drag king for fun and how she ended up looking like a really cute gay boy.


So there you have it. Make what you want of it. I hope for your sake that you won't become as jaded as Kitty.

- LA



Andalusite -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/18/2010 8:17:00 AM)

Blushes and somethingclever, I personally am not into verbal humiliation play, but I think it *could* be amusing in the right circumstances. Part of the problem is that the things that the "forced femme" guys want me/other Dominant women to say just are completely unnatural - nobody would say those things to a woman, or even to a man who we knew was cross-dressed, outside of bad Femdomme porn. I suppose I could go over the top with that, costuming, bad fake German accent, the whole lowly worm bit, but only if it was clear I was making fun of the stereotype, and my submissive were in a compatible frame of mind. Even so, I'd probably run out of dialog fairly quickly. To me, roleplaying would be more of a scenario that sets up things to say and do, not just knowing that it isn't real. For example, the only way I can imagine one woman calling another a slut/etc. is if the other lady were hitting on or had stolen her guy. So, roleplaying that, complete with catfighting, might work for me. Even so, I'd get bored with doing it more than once every few months. I don't see dressing as a woman to be humiliating, and while I understand in abstract that some men are humiliated/embarrassed by it, I have trouble wrapping my mind around *why*. Most of the men who've tried to explain it here on the boards come across like they actually think of *women* as lower, or femininity as lower, even though they want a Dominant. It's rather confusing.



somethingXclever -> RE: I swear it's not a generic forced fem thread (1/18/2010 3:10:31 PM)

like i said, i can completely understand if humiliation/degradation play isn't up Your alley, different strokes for different folks, as they say lol. But to try and answer your question i honestly have no idea what the mindset is of the "average sub" so to speak. i'm kind of an odd ball in that my gender bending doesn't derive from a Domination/submission kink but rather it's something i enjoy doing in a non-sexual way. That being said i know for me forced fem role playing is enjoyable just because it combines humiliation play with cross dressing which are 2 things i like, and it's not humiliating to be turned into a woman as much as its playing out a scene (usually) where someone knows your dirty little secrets which society at large disapproves of. It's not a very p.c. thing but then what is in your average kink scene? i don't find being feminine to be humiliating in the slightest but that doesn't mean that getting called a slut or a whore doesn't make me stretch out my panties a little :)



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