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MzMia -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:03:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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"Hello ladies, have any of you wonderful Dominant women, ever forced
a man to act masculine?"


I most definitely have. Over and over. And not just one. And they loved it incredibly.

- LA


Thank you for a morsel of hope.
I think that is hot, and a way to bring sexy back.

Off to dream about bringing sexy back.




cloudboy -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:04:15 PM)

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What I love about "forced masculinity" is for many of the submissive
men around here, it REALLY would be forced.
Has anyone on here ever seen a submissive male asking for it!!!!!!! !
ROFL


I scratch my head wondering how you can force a man to be "masculine." In the past this was pushing males into traditional societal roles and out of others.

Masculine was anything not: gay, feminine (aka, no cooking, cleaning, or child rearing), secretarial, teaching elementary school, nursing, etc.




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:05:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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"Hello ladies, have any of you wonderful Dominant women, ever forced
a man to act masculine?"


I most definitely have. Over and over. And not just one. And they loved it incredibly.

- LA


Yes... especially around spider's and one had this thing about birds. Buck up buddy... I mean really... you don't need to knock your ass out getting away from something that big ol shoe can smash. hehe




Andalusite -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:12:20 PM)

Hmm, I haven't engaged in "forced" masculinization, but I have requested that male partners hold doors for me and do other specifically gentlemanly things.




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:12:45 PM)

Actually I had a dear love who was amazing at many things except how he felt about himself. I helped him see what I saw. I created a monster! lol He was a tender teacher... a gentleman and although he worked his eighty acres of land and built fences and such, he didn't see himself as the so called... man's man. When I was done showing him who I saw... omg... tripped his manly ego! lol He was beautiful! And... so much fun to beef up! [;)] hehe




LadyAngelika -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:13:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

quote:

What I love about "forced masculinity" is for many of the submissive
men around here, it REALLY would be forced.
Has anyone on here ever seen a submissive male asking for it!!!!!!! !
ROFL


I scratch my head wondering how you can force a man to be "masculine." In the past this was pushing males into traditional societal roles and out of others.

Masculine was anything not: gay, feminine (aka, no cooking, cleaning, or child rearing), secretarial, teaching elementary school, nursing, etc.


Ok so we've evolved past this. Now we have the opportunity for somehting more grounded, more integrated, that doesn't oppress men but rather let them be men again. I don't know how many times I've been with men whom I invited to join me in intimate moments were afraid to touch me in certain ways because they were afraid that they were being abusive. They were told that you can't be forceful with women, especially not a submissive man with dominant women. What I like is to show a man how to express, not repress his testosterone in order to please me. How he can be a big strong man and yet still be sweet.

Does this begin to answer some of your quetions cloudboy?

- LA




MzMia -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:14:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

quote:

What I love about "forced masculinity" is for many of the submissive
men around here, it REALLY would be forced.
Has anyone on here ever seen a submissive male asking for it!!!!!!! !
ROFL


I scratch my head wondering how you can force a man to be "masculine." In the past this was pushing males into traditional societal roles and out of others.

Masculine was anything not: gay, feminine (aka, no cooking, cleaning, or child rearing), secretarial, teaching elementary school, nursing, etc.


I am scratching my head also.
Most of the women on here have had hundreds of men begging them to make them "dress up" and force them
into female clothes.
A lot of us would love a man that enjoys and wants to remain masculine.
I would find it refreshing.  After a while, men begging to suck dicks, be forced bi and dress like a woman, gets fucking boring.
{excuse me! I meant forced of course!}
[;)] 

yawning, time for bed.




doormat1975 -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:19:36 PM)

Sorry ladies and lady-wannabees but it's now official, we men are doing just fine :)


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/science/14gene.html




LadyAngelika -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:21:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: doormat1975

Sorry ladies and lady-wannabees but it's now official, we men are doing just fine :)


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/science/14gene.html


You sneaky boy ;-)

- LA




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:27:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: doormat1975

Sorry ladies and lady-wannabees but it's now official, we men are doing just fine :)


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/science/14gene.html


OMG! I read that yesterday and was hoping... I mean HOPING it wouldn't make it to the boards! hehe




doormat1975 -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:31:18 PM)

Happy to oblige my 2 cents so to speak... ooooooooooooo I've been bad! LOL




Reform -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:32:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
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ORIGINAL: Lockit
I don't want to force it...

Me neither really, but I like to definitely reacquaint a man with it.


My ex was never very polite. I could talk about why, but I won't. It bothered me. It always did, and that's what it really comes down to. My current boy is much more gentlemanly. He makes me feel a lady, which is sometimes hard for me, but I love it so much. He knows just what little gesture he can do to make all the difference. I hadn't really thought of it in the terms of a fetish before, but yes, I guess I do fetishize the gentleman.

I would not want to teach a man to do this. I enourage mine to do it more often, yes, but teaching him basics? No. I've been there, done that, and I won't forgive lack of manners again.

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I actually use orgasm control to get them in touch with their male libido as well. But that is a whole other ball of wax! Much fun though!

- LA


Just tonight he mentioned to me perhaps I should get a "ball-lock," as he called it. I just about laughed my ass off at that one. Which basically means he's rethought his previous decisions on it. I'm pretty excited about that, and just had to share since you mentioned it.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:34:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: doormat1975

Happy to oblige my 2 cents so to speak... ooooooooooooo I've been bad! LOL


Watch it young doormat.... Ms Lockit is one of those Dommes who plots revenge... ;-)

- LA




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:39:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: doormat1975

Happy to oblige my 2 cents so to speak... ooooooooooooo I've been bad! LOL


[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Ohhhhhhhh goodie! Another bad boy!




LadyAngelika -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:39:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Reform

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
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ORIGINAL: Lockit
I don't want to force it...

Me neither really, but I like to definitely reacquaint a man with it.


My ex was never very polite. I could talk about why, but I won't. It bothered me. It always did, and that's what it really comes down to. My current boy is much more gentlemanly. He makes me feel a lady, which is sometimes hard for me, but I love it so much. He knows just what little gesture he can do to make all the difference. I hadn't really thought of it in the terms of a fetish before, but yes, I guess I do fetishize the gentleman.

I would not want to teach a man to do this. I enourage mine to do it more often, yes, but teaching him basics? No. I've been there, done that, and I won't forgive lack of manners again.


Well I just state what I like. If they already are, then great. If they want to learn, I'll teach them. If they don't want to, then buh-bye.

As you can see, I use "forced" much more for the play on words.

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I actually use orgasm control to get them in touch with their male libido as well. But that is a whole other ball of wax! Much fun though!

- LA


Just tonight he mentioned to me perhaps I should get a "ball-lock," as he called it. I just about laughed my ass off at that one. Which basically means he's rethought his previous decisions on it. I'm pretty excited about that, and just had to share since you mentioned it.


It's fun when kinks grow! Congrats! If you are curious about how I mix this up, read this.

- LA




doormat1975 -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:40:31 PM)

It's all good LadyAngelika, as the article states:

"This does not mean that men are evolving faster than women, given that the two belong to the same species, but it could be that the Y’s rate of change drives or influences the evolution of the rest of the human genome in ways that now need to be assessed."

What kicks (no pun intended?) the Y chromosome into overdrive, women of course :)





LadyAngelika -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:42:24 PM)

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What kicks (no pun intended?) the Y chromosome into overdrive, women of course :)


Bad AND smart. Now we're talking!

- LA




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:45:18 PM)

Wow ... this thread is really taking off ... i think i am going to have to go back and read it from the start ...

The only thing i will say right now ... is i noticed the "John Wayne" type mentioned earlier as a role model for men ... and .. many Women like the type ...

younger Women might say "Clint Eastwood" or ... "name the star here" rather than John Wayne ...

But when was the last gentleman a hero in the movies?

Cary Grant ?????

This is a good question ... and it requires a good re-read on my part ... to really come up with some thoughts that add to the thread ....




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:47:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: doormat1975

It's all good LadyAngelika, as the article states:

"This does not mean that men are evolving faster than women, given that the two belong to the same species, but it could be that the Y’s rate of change drives or influences the evolution of the rest of the human genome in ways that now need to be assessed."

What kicks (no pun intended?) the Y chromosome into overdrive, women of course :)




Hahahahaha! I almost mentioned that! Did you notice the part or did they have it in this article... I saw a different one... that said they were really surprised because they thought the Y was losin some steam... and thought that one day, everyone would be ladies and were pretty thankful it wasn't going that way?

I, for one... am very glad!

I do believe that we have more than two gender's... and look foward to what they do learn and discover... as there is far more to all of this than what they have thought.




Lockit -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/14/2010 9:50:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo

Wow ... this thread is really taking off ... i think i am going to have to go back and read it from the start ...

The only thing i will say right now ... is i noticed the "John Wayne" type mentioned earlier as a role model for men ... and .. many Women like the type ...

younger Women might say "Clint Eastwood" or ... "name the star here" rather than John Wayne ...

But when was the last gentleman a hero in the movies?

Cary Grant ?????

This is a good question ... and it requires a good re-read on my part ... to really come up with some thoughts that add to the thread ....


LOL... I was wondering when you would show up! You're late! hehe

Actually... Johnny Deep and Brad Pitt... are men that aren't that rugged type I picture... but damn if I wouldn't bring them in and warm them on a cold winter night! Oh damn... now you got me started... thinking of all these newer stars... chick flicks again tonight... I think I could become a slut.




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