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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 11:22:59 AM   
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Poverty & the imbalance between the haves & the have-nots. As Marxist as it sounds that is at the root of most of the world's problems.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 12:45:12 PM   
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Poverty & the imbalance between the haves & the have-nots. As Marxist as it sounds that is at the root of most of the world's problems.



Arpig, that would be covered by overpopulation.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 12:52:52 PM   
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Then one would need to define overpopulation.  The Chinese and American Indians were killing each other off  long before the birth of Christ. 

It really has never been the amount of people it just has to do with "other" people.

Try and think before you post.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 12:53:55 PM   
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True Popeye, in a way...but overpopulation wouldn't be an issue if there weren't so many desperately poor folks.That and there were poor long before the world was overpopulated. Its difficult to get somebody who is well off to strap a bomb to them sleves or to crash a plane they are on....but a poor person can be swayed in many ways...religion, ethicity, us/them...these are just tools used to motivate the poor.

The rich on the other hand justifiably fear the masses of poor, so again they can be swayed by those same tools and use them to divide the poor (divide & conquer) into tribes which can then be pitted against eachother. If everybody were well off there would be a fuck of a lot less conflict & trouble.



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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 12:54:55 PM   
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Won't the NWO fix all this?


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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 12:59:16 PM   
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The NWO likes this, they don't see it as broken. That's why the birth control advocates of decades ago, who were right, have been driven back into the woodwork so to speak.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 1:24:29 PM   
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True Popeye, in a way...but overpopulation wouldn't be an issue if there weren't so many desperately poor folks.That and there were poor long before the world was overpopulated. Its difficult to get somebody who is well off to strap a bomb to them sleves or to crash a plane they are on....but a poor person can be swayed in many ways...religion, ethicity, us/them...these are just tools used to motivate the poor.

The rich on the other hand justifiably fear the masses of poor, so again they can be swayed by those same tools and use them to divide the poor (divide & conquer) into tribes which can then be pitted against eachother. If everybody were well off there would be a fuck of a lot less conflict & trouble.





Arpig, not really, all of those 9-11 hijackers were upper middle class and most were highly educated with degrees in engineering etc or attending unis. Osama Bin Laden is worth what, $100-$200 million?
As for the "well off" part maybe so but it's not our job to be making poor people in foreign countries, "well off", that's their job and the job of their govts.
I grew up very poor as did many of my friends but we didn't know it at the time. We went to bed hungry and I still remember getting out of bed and my feet touching the freezing floor! But, we didn't sneak into foreign countries and push drugs and were taught to obey the rules. We were all "rail thin."
As for strapping bombs on if I were terminally ill.....
And yeah, we need to start wacking a bunch of rich people. lol
And if there's too many poor people then why should we be feeding countries like Somalia, so they can double their population in ten or fifteen years?
At some point the U.S. will not be able to produce enough food to feed all those foreign countries and that'll happen sooner rather than later due to skyrocketing birth rates in those countries.
You can't expect people in Western countries to be responsable for what happens in foreign countries. Or to pay for failure in foreign countries due to bad govt, bad management, or out of control birth rates.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 1:39:51 PM   
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I grew up very poor as did many of my friends but we didn't know it at the time. We went to bed hungry and I still remember getting out of bed and my feet touching the freezing floor! But, we didn't sneak into foreign countries and push drugs and were taught to obey the rules. We were all "rail thin."
As for strapping bombs on if I were terminally ill.....
And yeah, we need to start wacking a bunch of rich people. lol
And if there's too many poor people then why should we be feeding countries like Somalia, so they can double their population in ten or fifteen years?
At some point the U.S. will not be able to produce enough food to feed all those foreign countries and that'll happen sooner rather than later due to skyrocketing birth rates in those countries.
You can't expect people in Western countries to be responsable for what happens in foreign countries. Or to pay for failure in foreign countries due to bad govt, bad management, or out of control birth rates.


I can only imagine the reason you were so poor has to be directed at the failure of your parents.  Maybe they were stupid immigrants or just lazy?  Who knows.

Enough about them.

We are responsible when "our" policies directly effect the progress of other nations.  Unlike you, we do not live in a vacuum.

So when we sell arms to other nations, or support them with monetary aid we are indirectly participating in their very actions.

Does that justify being attacked? To me no...To them maybe.

You seem unable to grasp anything but what you hear from your very questionable sources.

Do you take psych meds?



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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 1:41:59 PM   
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I grew up very poor as did many of my friends but we didn't know it at the time. We went to bed hungry and I still remember getting out of bed and my feet touching the freezing floor! But, we didn't sneak into foreign countries and push drugs and were taught to obey the rules. We were all "rail thin."
As for strapping bombs on if I were terminally ill.....
And yeah, we need to start wacking a bunch of rich people. lol
And if there's too many poor people then why should we be feeding countries like Somalia, so they can double their population in ten or fifteen years?
At some point the U.S. will not be able to produce enough food to feed all those foreign countries and that'll happen sooner rather than later due to skyrocketing birth rates in those countries.
You can't expect people in Western countries to be responsable for what happens in foreign countries. Or to pay for failure in foreign countries due to bad govt, bad management, or out of control birth rates.


I can only imagine the reason you were so poor has to be directed at the failure of your parents.  Maybe they were stupid immigrants or just lazy?  Who knows.

Enough about them.

We are responsible when "our" policies directly effect the progress of other nations.  Unlike you, we do not live in a vacuum.

So when we sell arms to other nations, or support them with monetary aid we are indirectly participating in their very actions.

Does that justify being attacked? To me no...To them maybe.

You seem unable to grasp anything but what you hear from your very questionable sources.

Do you take psych meds?





Sorta topical the justice department has just indicted 22 people in private companies for taking kickbacks dealing arms overseas.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 2:55:04 PM   
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The world's problem is too many people. It has gotten so bad, that the only way to effectively reduce it is to have only one in four fertile women have one single birth at an age between 22-26 years.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 3:08:31 PM   
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What a load of old shite.

There ain't a problem. Apart from the usual depression afflicting CollarMe.

Look......you can have anything you want in this world....tits....work.....leisure....shoes.....hair......pies........IPods.......chicken wings.

The most interesting thing about (some) people is their capacity to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

Get a fuckin' grip.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 3:14:59 PM   
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Or to pay for failure in foreign countries due to bad govt, bad management, or out of control birth rates.

Nothing to do with politicians who've long since fucked off wrecking the economies by taking out huge loans from richer countries, then?

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 4:39:09 PM   
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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 4:43:20 PM   
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Oh.....and the banning of beer sales after the 3rd quarter, 2nd period and 7th inning of most games....

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 5:12:35 PM   
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Or to pay for failure in foreign countries due to bad govt, bad management, or out of control birth rates.

Nothing to do with politicians who've long since fucked off wrecking the economies by taking out huge loans from richer countries, then?


Moon, sure that too.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 5:15:36 PM   
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Oh.....and the banning of beer sales after the 3rd quarter, 2nd period and 7th inning of most games....



Those BASTARDS!!!

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 5:20:54 PM   
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Not sure, I guess we all want different things and that causes a lot of friction between competing parties.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/19/2010 5:42:03 PM   
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I always hate it when they cut off beer sales in the 7th inning and you are there for a rare double headed.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/20/2010 8:47:11 AM   
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After watching tonight's edition of Panorama on the BBC, I got to wondering just what is the world's biggest problem, just what is it, and is it the same problem that has always been since daily events  first started to be recorded. The Panorama programme brought two seperate issues up, ethnicity and religion both of which I know is a constant problem worldwide even today, in our so called educated world, these two issues just do not go away. So, what is it, what do others believe is the root cause of our current world's problems, is it religion, or is it race, if neither, what in your oppinion is it and has the world's people seen it before in times past ?


Neither, it's human stupidity of which there are only typical examples.

Capital must protect itself in every way… Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd.” - JP Morgan

Read that last sentence again: divide and conquer.

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RE: The World problem ? - 1/20/2010 8:54:12 AM   
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Yes divide and conquer and long will it continue to exist whilst the majority are educated by the minority via the public soap box their power and wealth gives them.

Politics, ethnicity, religion, skin colour, even the colour of one's hair, just differences constructed by the power hungry to sow the seeds of conflict and there achieve their aim on the backs of others.

Whilst we are all kept squabbling about the differences, we lose sight of the bigger picture.


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