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Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 2:18:14 AM

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I've run across several profiles of slaves on Collar Me that claim to be in a slave training camp in Grapevine Texas that say they are for sale for $850.00 plus travel expenses. Has anybody ever heard of their group which are called BDSM Group and Associates of Texas? Does anyone out there know if they are for real? I have talked to several of them over the last few months and would like to talk to a third party other than the slave and their director who knows about them and if they are legitimate. They send a contract but you can't talk to the slave on the phone or go to pick them up. If there is anyone who has experience with this group or has any info on them it would be greatly appreciated.. thanks

RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 6:41:29 AM

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I'm gonna go with it's probably either not real or these are women who are actually being forced into it with no regard to what they want.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 7:59:12 AM

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More than likely a scam.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:04:35 AM

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importing / forcing a woman into slavedom isn't done to sell them for pocket money. prostitutes provide a continual stream of 'revenue' and are micromanaged.

if you have to ask such questions, then, yes despite the gaping big holes you point out (read flashing big red lights), then they are real. go for it. get the slave of your dreams for an amazing one time offer...

I quote OP's profile "Most of the so called sub/slaves have been only out for one thing.. MONEY.
I don't send any money to anybody, anytime"... I lol'd.

And 56? No. The language is that of a young guy. Why would a 56yo feel the need to justify his age.Only someone pretending to be of that age would do that. With the 'procedure' described it's obvious what's happening.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:20:42 AM

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It is illegal to buy and sell humans in the US, or anywhere in the world. At your age you should know that already.

This scam seems to prey on the older male Dominants. Gary gets them regularly, sometimes more than one in a day. The scammers must think that older male Dominants have money to throw away and might be desperate to find a slave. I never receive this scam and our couples profile never gets them.

Some Dominants have asked if they could come see the slave before they pay the money. If this were not a scam why would the training camp not allow you to see what is for sale? However, as many as have written in the forums asking about this particular training camp, no one has come back here and said they bought a wonderful slave for basically peanuts.

If you do send them the money and then discover it is a scam, what do you do? You can't go to the police to report the scam. You would be admitting to being involved in interstate slavery and transporting a person across state lines for immoral purposes, in essence, prostitution. You could sit and cry in your beer, waiting and wondering when your lovely, young, nubile, obedient slave would be dropped on your doorstep for the amazing price of $850.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:42:33 AM

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Only $850??? Damn, you get what you pay for. I wouldn't buy a slave that cost anything less than $10K.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:48:14 AM

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I have purchased a number of slaves from that group. Most have been worth every single penny spent.

WARNING! Don't ever shop in their discount bin. I made that mistake a few weeks back. After the first rousing fucking and fisting she simply fell apart. Kind of hard to return her and I don't think that notifying the authorities at this point would be exactly prudent.

Be sure to kick the tires, check her teeth, get the blood work up and ask if you can take her for a test spin before you agree to the purchase.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:50:04 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_2836789/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3015230
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3012949/mpage_1/tm.htm

these are just a couple.

Lets make a simple rule, no money changes hands until you see if she is any good at giving head, ok? Know what you are buying.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:53:37 AM

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these are women who are actually being forced into it with no regard to what they want.

I know it's terribly non-pc to say, but from a historical standpoint, a slave woman could be had for approximately the price of a car or decent motorcycle.

Think of that. In the olden days, you could have had two in your garage!

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 8:58:31 AM

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quote:

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these are women who are actually being forced into it with no regard to what they want.

I know it's terribly non-pc to say, but from a historical standpoint, a slave woman could be had for approximately the price of a car or decent motorcycle.

Think of that. In the olden days, you could have had two in your garage!

Yeah but half the value goes away once you take them off the lot...

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 9:03:51 AM

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Does anyone out there know if they are for real?

You are gullible # 12,367 asking that question. Ask 'em for their phone number, no joy, then move on. Ask yourself this: if someone wants your money, wouldn't they give you a number to call? But here is a hint: the management are all visiting relatives in Nigeria. I think they may own an internet cafe there.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 10:46:33 AM

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I should imagine that anyone asking for money without letting you see or meet the slave is a scammer, after all we are constantly being told 'if it seems too good to be true then it probably is'. I've looked all over the internet & found nothing. Even if it did exist it would be ilegal.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 10:47:17 AM

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The inflatable ones are the goodest.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 11:25:37 AM

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It is illegal to buy and sell humans in the US, or anywhere in the world. At your age you should know that already.

I second that. CM should be removing those profiles asap.

Also, don't be so sure the scammers are Nigerian in this case. It actually sounds alot like a scam pulled by the Russian mafia to sell off drugged up strippers that aren't making money anymore. Sadly, its alot more common than alot of people realize.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 11:53:18 AM

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You need to watch the movie... Taken...

While there is a serious side to slavery worldwide and many scams or con's that we could get into... I do have to question why would you even question it? One, it could be a scam, unlawful, forced or in an imaginary world... or real life women/men who wish to be sold.

Why the fuck would you want one? lol You can't find someone? You can't train someone?

Stop looking at the scam or whatever and look inside yourself that you would even consider asking if it is real or not! It isn't the scammer's fault or people playing at some need out there! It is the one who would consider it! You would consider buying someone? WTF is wrong with that picture? Don't make me tell you... you won't like it, I promise.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 11:55:29 AM

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$850.00 eh?
I’ll take them all!
Maybe I can resell the unbreakable ones to Domiguy for slight profit?

Unless they are marriage brokers, it doesn’t seem realistic. Do we have all the information?

Russian slaves cost about 5k and you have to marry them.
European slaves base rate is over 10k . . . and you have to marry them.
Malaysian, Burmese etc can be as low as $1,200.00 and you don’t have to marry them but it’s more of a rental type thing. You have to give them back after a year or so.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 11:56:32 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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these are women who are actually being forced into it with no regard to what they want.

I know it's terribly non-pc to say, but from a historical standpoint, a slave woman could be had for approximately the price of a car or decent motorcycle.

Think of that. In the olden days, you could have had two in your garage!

Or a male slave.

A younger slave was even less, an older slave even more.

Damaged or disabled in any way, that's real cheap.

Of course you then take on all the economic and legal obligations so you best think twice about what you buy. Not to mention the social stigma from your peers if you buy foolishly.

Plus since it was legal slavery we are talking about, you better have good reliable free help or a lot of chains or that pretty thing you bought might just murder you and your family in your sleep or poison your food. Over time you might break her of that habit but then you've likely broken her body up a bit too much so it won't give the level of work you originally wanted and now you may take an economic loss.

If you were a male citizen of many slave owning societies you could just join the army, go on campaign and take your pay in slaves too -- keep them or sell them. They might help your family out while you are off on the next campaign cause you won't have time to enjoy them while you're in service yourself.

Oh, no buying on credit in general either, that was a cash exchange. Good luck if you have to find someone to borrow from. The interest rates back then would make your head pop off by comparison to today's rates.

Sorry, history rivalry for a moment. Thanks for getting me starte on it, pompeii.

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 12:19:07 PM

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London Bridge is falling down and it's for sale, the going rate is cheaper than ocean front real estate in Arizona. Then again, for the same amount of money, or less, you can fix up your bad credit. People with impaired logic and judgement skills fall victim to practical jokes and scams everyday. If you ask me, some profiles are bit like an IQ and/or Common sense test combined.

Hello, knock knock... think about it. First, this ain't legal. Second, if you fall victim to it, are you going to turn yourself in as a victim in an illegal activity? How many people would turn in a drug dealer for ripping them off? Think about it for a moment here.

Excuse me, you seemed to be confused, this is a BDSM site where people are seeking out like minded people for a relationship based upon at least one or more letters of what BDSM represents. This ain't some illegal human trafficing site. Dugh...

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 12:21:00 PM

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It is illegal to buy and sell humans in the US, or anywhere in the world. At your age you should know that already.

I have to wonder about the people who actually ask if they can buy a slave. Yes, you can buy a woman...there's quite the undergound blackmarket call for sex and domestic slaves. Sure you hear stories of people who've gone this route...in the news where they talk of arrests and jail time!

OP, you complain of all the fake women with playboy shots on their profiles and have the nerve to pretend a "Cary Grant" persona. As you say in your profile... "Be Real or Be Gone".

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RE: Slave for sale? - 1/20/2010 12:53:06 PM

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Cary Grant would not need to buy a slave... hell, if he wasn't dead... I would have half a mind to offer myself as slave, for free and I am not a slave! Oh... yummmmmm!

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