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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:25:19 PM   
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getting sick of the words dom, master, sir

there ought to be a rule no one can call themselves any of them till a woman points a finger at him and says, that's my sir, master, dom


Do the many have the right to take away the self-determination of the few?

Any rule that takes away from someone the ability to choose an action or role that does not inherently bring harm to others, is, inherently harmful to our cohesion as a society, or, more specifically to the Lifestyle Community as well. (Unless of course, someone gives up that right, or submits to that rule of their own free will.)

though I have to say, a part of me does see your point. Too many abusers or folks with control issues/manipulators calling themselves Master/Mistress Dom/me. It shames those of us who truely try to bring respect to the title.



See that? What in tarnation leads you to believe there is a community? Describe this for me. I am serious. I hear it all the time but the meaning eludes me.

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:30:31 PM   
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See that? What in tarnation leads you to believe there is a community? Describe this for me. I am serious. I hear it all the time but the meaning eludes me


it's what all the sirs, doms, and masters belong to

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:33:28 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:36:26 PM   
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As a young woman naive to the ideas of what BDSM is all about? It can be pretty intimidating, and the desire to please can be twisted into being pushed WAY past what you can reasonably handle.


Here's the thing ... being submissive doesn't mean being stupid. It doesn't mean being naive or a pushover or giving up your personal responsibility. Use your intelligence and instincts to choose the relationships which work for you. Take responsibility for your choices, even the bad ones. Learn yourself - and then gve yourself to him fully. It takes time to discover all this about yourself. And I've learned that it takes a long time to find the one to whom I can give myself fully, who can push me in ways I never imagined, but completely consent to because of our relationship.


Just the other day E and I were talking about how our judgments/viewpoints have changed since beginning our experiences with D/s and BDSM. Sure, I can point to something that seems odd, bizarre or absolutely crazy - but a vanilla person would look at my interests with similar askance. We've become 'insiders' to whom one act seems insane to an outsider, yet mundane to someone more experienced. This viewpoint changes with time - perhaps one day you'll experience something and think to yourself 'hot damn, gimme more of that!' and realize it does something wonderful for you and him. And you'll realize that someone else would look at you and think 'what a freak!" It's an interesting ride, to say the least.

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:36:37 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:39:04 PM   
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At times, I am ashamed to be male considering many of the things alot of so called 'men' do. Just as at times I am ashamed that those who call themselves Dominant take advantage of that power.



I'm wondering if you think I should be ashamed of being submissive because of some of the stuff I see people do. Or ashamed of being a woman because of someone who wants to take no personal responsibility for her choices?

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I've never subscribed to that idea. Even the most submissive of people are quite capable of doing things that makes another person feel embarressed/disgusted/ etc etc


Only if I am the submissive doing something embarrassing, disgusting or stupid. I stopped taking on other people's shit as mine a long time ago.

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:40:08 PM   
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It's the gatherings around the campfire and marshmallow roasting.


Can we have smores?

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:41:01 PM   
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Dominance is about more than being rude.

Of course it is.  Dominance is the exertion of power and control over something.  And everyone is dominant in some ways and submissive in others.  The most powerful man in the world will die eventually, and the slaviest consensual slave is (hopefully) dominant toward her kids.  So individuals are "defined" by how dominant they are, in different contexts.

To the extent you give power to others, you submit to them in that context.  I refuse to submit to jackasses in any context.  I will not allow the fucktardness of others to lessen my life in any way.  That includes feeling bad because of someone else's jackassery.

You clearly have not yet made that decision for yourself.


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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:42:57 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:45:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know I am not owning the shit of every wacko bitch that slaps the title of 'Domme' on her ass and thinks because of it, the world owes her everything.

I have enough shit of my own. (please see the anteater above)

June

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:48:18 PM   
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The behavior of others does not reflect on Me.

I wouldn't go that far.  I certainly try to influence the behavior of others.  To the extent I fail, it reflects on my lack of skill at influencing people.  But it reflects on abilities I may or may not possess, not on who I fundamentally am as a person.  I don't feel ashamed of being a _____ (fill in the blank with anything you want).

Cum-ba-yah, motherfucker.


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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:52:30 PM   
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It's the gatherings around the campfire and marshmallow roasting.


Can we have smores?

CubScoutDom

Actually, there are some of us around here who do that on get together weekends.  If you're interested in the thread, search key words "orgy noises" and/or "s'mores".  I think you would have appreciated the comedy.


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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:53:37 PM   
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I don't feel ashamed of being a sir dom master_____ (fill in the blank with anything you want).


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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:54:51 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:56:09 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 2:58:38 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 3:00:00 PM   
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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 3:01:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have no idea what a smore is. I'm assuming this is an American reference, cause y'all seem to understand each other...

Is it something worth googling?


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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 3:05:13 PM   
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I have no idea what a smore is. I'm assuming this is an American reference, cause y'all seem to understand each other...

Is it something worth googling?



A s'more is a graham cracker with a piece of Hershey's chocolate on top, then a nice fresh from the fire toasted marshmallow, then another graham cracker to make an gooey mess that is delicious while sitting around the campfire. 

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RE: Honor, Responsibility, Dignity. - 1/21/2010 3:07:04 PM   
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