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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:30:48 PM   
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Ah, so ignorance, in your view, is indeed an excuse.  Interesting.

That's the exact thing people are doing. Using ignorance as an excuse to belittle someone.

I'm not sure what the alternative is: insult everyone who has not arrived at whatever level of experience you think is acceptable to join us here on the boards?



I'm glad you can to Ask A Mistress today. I don't often see you here. If you came more often, you'd realise that we often are very nice to new comers. Why you feel the need to make an issue of how we deal with wankers (something we have to deal with every day as Dommes) is a little mind boggling to say the least.

That said, I absolutely find the majority of the posts that I read from you brilliant. I guess we have to disagree at some point. :-)

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:31:33 PM   
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but the attitude in response to his poor grasp of English


Huh? No no no... I wrote to him in French here trying to explaint things to him.

His native language is my native language, and I saw no one poke fun at it.

- LA

I'm incorporating other threads where he's been harassed. Apologies for not more specifically isolating incidents.

Even in broken English, this thread's comments from him were a bit easier to decipher, so I don't know that jokes about his ability to speak English may have been as prevalent here as opposed to here.

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:32:10 PM   
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I too might have unrealistic fantasies


There you go. We just pointed that out to him.

- LA

In as disingenuous a manner as pseudo-sneezing the sound "aaaaaasssholee!" into one's hands.



Not my style. I'm much more direct. I wrote to him in French here trying to explaint things to him.

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:32:52 PM   
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If you came more often...

You leave my sex life out of this!

Pervert.


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:33:23 PM   
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Avoid my topic if it bothers you?


I resent coming across those pics, which...once again...I did not consent to.



Yeah, actually you did. I agree with NZ on this: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3037298

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Okay fair enough, but it would have been nice if there had been some warning.....THESE pics I didn't need to see. Simply aweful, no thought put into them whatsoever.


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:34:51 PM   
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Not my style. I'm much more direct. I wrote to him in French here trying to explaint things to him.

After what I do admit is a softer prod among a barrage of others (the bit about him exposing his kink and what that 'says' about him)...but people do not automatically feel moved to take someone's compliments to heart after feeling they've just been slapped by them. N'est pas?


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:35:18 PM   
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but the attitude in response to his poor grasp of English


Huh? No no no... I wrote to him in French here trying to explaint things to him.

His native language is my native language, and I saw no one poke fun at it.

- LA

I'm incorporating other threads where he's been harassed. Apologies for not more specifically isolating incidents.

Even in broken English, this thread's comments from him were a bit easier to decipher, so I don't know that jokes about his ability to speak English may have been as prevalent here as opposed to here.


I never went to the Paradox thread as it was in Ask A Master, not a place where I feel I have much to contribute.

I agree that it wasn't cool, but that was done by a Dom in Ask A Master. Why are you bringing it up here? I'm a little baffled.

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:36:25 PM   
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If you came more often...

You leave my sex life out of this!

Pervert.



Me? Pervert? Yes? And? ;-)

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:39:26 PM   
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Not my style. I'm much more direct. I wrote to him in French here trying to explaint things to him.

After what I do admit is a softer prod among a barrage of others (the bit about him exposing his kink and what that 'says' about him)...but people do not automatically feel moved to take someone's compliments to heart after feeling they've just been slapped by them. N'est pas?



Well damn. I guess we'll all have to put on our little gants blanc and be model forum citizens and never pronounce our opinions ;-)

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:39:34 PM   
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Honestly, I felt the first post to him was appropriate. Described exactly what was wrong with his posting and what he could expect from it. I don't know if he had time to edit it at that point or not, but if he could have, he should have.

I agree with those that felt those pictures were awful - the lighting was bad, the look was not attractive, and the body posture and facial expressions were very agressive, in my opinion. I'm not a fan of feminization, but I've seen pictures that were well done - tasteful and attractive. The OP's pictures are neither.

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:42:47 PM   
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Ah, so ignorance, in your view, is indeed an excuse.  Interesting.

That's the exact thing people are doing. Using ignorance as an excuse to belittle someone.

I'm not sure what the alternative is: insult everyone who has not arrived at whatever level of experience you think is acceptable to join us here on the boards?


First of all, I didn't insult him.  Would I if it were a private message rather than here on the public forum?  Probably.

No, there's no rule against the pics.  There's no rule against 400 lb males covered in body hair to wear speedos on the beech either.  Doesn't mean that I want to see it.


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:46:10 PM   
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Just an aside, did anyone else bother to notice that, while the content of the thread in the other forum was basically the same, there were no pictures attached to it?

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:48:16 PM   
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Nope, didn't bother going lol

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:48:48 PM   
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Just an aside, did anyone else bother to notice that, while the content of the thread in the other forum was basically the same, there were no pictures attached to it?


I noticed... can you continue your observation please? Maybe I need more caffeine to make the logical leep :-)

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:49:07 PM   
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Ah, so ignorance, in your view, is indeed an excuse.  Interesting.

That's the exact thing people are doing. Using ignorance as an excuse to belittle someone.

I'm not sure what the alternative is: insult everyone who has not arrived at whatever level of experience you think is acceptable to join us here on the boards?


First of all, I didn't insult him.  Would I if it were a private message rather than here on the public forum?  Probably.

No, there's no rule against the pics.  There's no rule against 400 lb males covered in body hair to wear speedos on the beech either.  Doesn't mean that I want to see it.



THIS....yes he has the right to post them, doesn't mean we want to see them. It would have been courteous to post something saying he would be posting such pics of himself so that those of us who don't want to see them could easily avoid them.


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:52:20 PM   
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Just an aside, did anyone else bother to notice that, while the content of the thread in the other forum was basically the same, there were no pictures attached to it?


I noticed... can you continue your observation please? Maybe I need more caffeine to make the logical leep :-)

- LA

Just once again how things done on this board are acceptable because we are female Dominants, rather than males.  It does make Me wonder how the thread on the other board would have gone over if the same approach (posting the pics) would have went.


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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:54:43 PM   
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Okay fair enough, but it would have been nice if there had been some warning.....THESE pics I didn't need to see. Simply aweful, no thought put into them whatsoever.



He wouldn't be arrested walking down the street like that and he doesn't look like he requires medical attention. I think the responses to his photos are over the top. It's one thing to maintain that community norms suggest starting out with a photo like that isn't a good way to get a conversation started. But the "ewww! I don't want to see that!" responses really are a bit much. It's not exactly puritanical, although I can see why the OP perceived it that way. It's almost a fucked up set of aesthetics. As far as I can tell, the bar for "attractive" around here is set pretty low and I've seen plenty of people have pictures that I considered unattractive complimented by others. There's actually quite a few people around here whose avatars I find unsightly but I would never dream of hiding their posts to avoid looking at their faces, heaven forbid actually calling them out on the forum for being ugly. And the request for a "warning" is pretty silly given the sorts of images that are posted as ads around here. I'm actually pretty persnickety about the physical appearance of my men, but I don't consider every image in this place as having been posted with the intent of pleasing me.

I'm not too worried about the OP's feelings here. And I get many of the responses and the impatience with wankery. I just wish people would be careful not to carelessly  promote "looking at pictures I don't like" to "having someone's kink forced on me," as if displeasing your aesthetics were some more serious transgression. Unless you are secretly Vladimir Nabokov posting from heaven, in which case, promote on.

But then I'm amused by cock shots, so I suppose I'm more liberal in this regard than most.

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:55:21 PM   
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While I understand this, I think that asking someone not to post pics is like asking them not be themselves. Contrary to what some believe, I think people should be able to express their kink.

I think WyldHrt & I told him the potential consequences of him imposing his kinks in a "look at me/do me" kind of way.

He began insulting us. So good on him if he got barrage back. You read French, you read his repsonses on the other thread. He is amused by all this.

If I went on to Ask A Submissive and put up picture of myself all in Domme outfit and said that I was looking for submissives to kneel to me and adore me and send me tribute, I'd expect to be treated the same way.

- LA

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 1:56:28 PM   
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Just an aside, did anyone else bother to notice that, while the content of the thread in the other forum was basically the same, there were no pictures attached to it?


I noticed... can you continue your observation please? Maybe I need more caffeine to make the logical leep :-)

- LA

Just once again how things done on this board are acceptable because we are female Dominants, rather than males.  It does make Me wonder how the thread on the other board would have gone over if the same approach (posting the pics) would have went.



Ah yes, ok. Well LadyPact, it's our fault for calling ourselves Ladies ;-)

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RE: Daily Feminization - 1/30/2010 2:14:29 PM   
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THIS....yes he has the right to post them, doesn't mean we want to see them. It would have been courteous to post something saying he would be posting such pics of himself so that those of us who don't want to see them could easily avoid them.


Fair point, yes.

Although no one would likely bat an eyelash if Johnny Depp or Shirley Manson were posting such images.

He wasn't really wearing anything less than what you could see on someone at the beach.

Not to say it isn't universal, but aren't we just going down the path of offering less aesthetic leeway to people we find ugly?


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