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the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:29:28 PM

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Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

What is the culmination of your pleasure ?
is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?
Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:33:55 PM

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Start looking for the word "sadist" within profiles. You'll see for yourself.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:38:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: rexforDomina

Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

Yes, there are genuine sadistic dommes.

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is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?

No-a murder victim is unwilling (presumably!). If the sub was unwilling it would be no fun.

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I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.

That means you need to get out more.

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Are there such a Mistresses in real?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

Not sure what the exact percentage level is (and you seem mixed up between humiliation and pain here-two very different things) but I would bet serious money that it is pretty high.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:42:07 PM

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Thinking out loud here. Sorry if it's a little fragmented.

There's a part of me that really, genuinely enjoys inflicting pain. So yes, I get pleasure from it.

There is also a part of me that cares for people, and likes to take care of people. This is an important part of me - but my sadism is as well.

These urges are not necessarily contradictory. When dealing with someone who enjoys pain, or seeks pain out, I have the opportunity hurt them without causing long-term harm, and without destroying trust between us. I can use the pain as a tool, even, to break down their barriers a little bit, to uncover old wounds so that they can heal. I can create vulnerability and then nurture them through it.

I'm human, and as a human I seek out the place where there is the least cognitive dissonance, where the parts of me are aligned as much as possible. The pleasure I gain, then, doesn't necessarily increase with the amount of pain I inflict. If I were to mutilate someone, the care-taking part of me would object rather strenuously, and I would find that unpleasant. I can find the most pleasure where I am inflicting pain AND where I haven't sacrificed my instinct to protect the person I'm hurting.

Does that make sense?

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:48:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: rexforDomina

Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

What is the culmination of your pleasure ?
is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?
Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

Being a Mistress or Dominant is not the same as being a Sadist. Not being a Sadist does not make a Mistress less real or really doing it for pleasure.

If you need a Mistress who is a Sadist, search for that. Don't imply less than authenticity in those that are not, though.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 2:51:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: rexforDomina

Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

What is the culmination of your pleasure ?
is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?
Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

Being a Mistress or Dominant is not the same as being a Sadist. Not being a Sadist does not make a Mistress less real or really doing it for pleasure.

If you need a Mistress who is a Sadist, search for that. Don't imply less than authenticity in those that are not, though.

I didn't pick up on that implication at all-what part of his post do you think implied that non-sadistic mistresses were inauthentic?

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 3:10:59 PM

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At the risk of being repetitive...

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Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

Yes. Two threads on which I discuss this.
Torturing the Willing (or the sado/maso contradiction)
The Thrill of the Hunt

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What is the culmination of your pleasure ?

My pleasure is in seeing him willingly (even if reluctantly) take pain for my pleasure.

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is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?

I have no such desires, so I wouldn't know.

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Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?

Plenty of them.

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For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

No clue. We never really bothered to do such a study.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:03:43 PM

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To be charitable to the OP, he may be someone like myself a couple of years ago. That is: someone who always wanted to believe that femdoms existed, but had thought that such a dream was too good to be true. A thousand bits of femdom porn (and now CM profiles of pro-dommes) will have only added to his cynical view that femdoms don't love dominating so much as they love money. Now he's beginning to believe that femdoms do, indeed, exist. The next step is to work out what makes them tick.

Please note that word 'charitable'. ;-)

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:10:35 PM

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FR

To be charitable to the OP, he may be someone like myself a couple of years ago. That is: someone who always wanted to believe that femdoms existed, but had thought that such a dream was too good to be true. A thousand bits of femdom porn (and now CM profiles of pro-dommes) will have only added to his cynical view that femdoms don't love dominating so much as they love money. Now he's beginning to believe that femdoms do, indeed, exist. The next step is to work out what makes them tick.

Please note that word 'charitable'. ;-)

Damn you, Peon, you've made me feel all guilty and immature

Please could you try and be a little less reasonable?

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:17:02 PM

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Please could you try and be a little less reasonable?

No. I just come over all reasonable sometimes. Happens roughly once a month and lasts a few days. No idea why.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:17:32 PM

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Yeah Peon- quit that!

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My D/s needs and desires center on control, humiliation and objectification. YUM!

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:19:14 PM

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No. I just come over all reasonable sometimes. Happens roughly once a month and lasts a few days. No idea why.

Ooooh! Bitchy!

I like bitchy :-p

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:22:26 PM

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I've already perved your profile, DD - steam is positively frosty by comparison.

*Sigh*. I often dreamt of having just one ex girlfriend having had one hundredth of those fantasies in her head . . . .

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:24:02 PM

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Nah, I wasn't being bitchy, just stupid.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 4:27:57 PM

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Nah, I wasn't being bitchy, just stupid.

I didn't mean bitchy in a bad way...

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/30/2010 7:40:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: rexforDomina

Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

What is the culmination of your pleasure ?
is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?
Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

No, they're a fable, much like the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/31/2010 9:00:36 AM

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No, they're a fable, much like the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

Ok. Sarcasm works well when the OP is hostile and offensive. So far this thread was going quite well and I don't see how mocking him was necessary.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/31/2010 10:34:54 AM

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I enjoy giving pain. I am a natural sadist.
I enjoy receiving pain at my command. I am a natural masochist.
As long as I am in control/ taking responsibility I'm happy.
I hate having to be a control freak though.
I'm quite happy to humiliate someone if it gets me what I want.
If not it's a waste of time and effort.
Hope that helps.
My advice is to stop trying to understand all fem Doms.
We are all different.

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/31/2010 11:00:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: rexforDomina

Are there the Mistresses who really do it for pleasure ?
Who feel the real pleasure from giving the pain to some one ?

What is the culmination of your pleasure ?
is it some thing similar with a maniac who wants to kill the victim ?
Sorry , for making such a brutal comparance , but I never meet a Mistress , who really feels real pleasure from humiliating some one.
Are there such a Mistresses in real ?
For example if to compare in the percentage level here , are there among 100 Mistresses the one who really feels the real pleasure from torturing some one ?

Yes but I that doesn't mean I just want to torture any man!
Give me your pain and I will show you my pleasure but first I need your head and no I wouldn't want to kill you. If I killed you then I wouldn't be able to keep torturing you, now would I ?!?!

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RE: the Mistress by nature , what Mistress is this ? - 1/31/2010 11:52:21 AM

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This is a short piece of writing which, I think, more or less encapsulates it for me.

The Sacred Paradox

The sheer intensity of taking a consenting submissive and making him hurt and cry and suffer for me, the power and passion that is as hot and raw as the living hearts the Aztecs once tore from the chest of a willing sacrifice, that is what feeds me. The naked vulnerability of him afterwards, when he trembles and cannot stand, and his eyes are so wide and dark and full that they look bruised. These are the things I am awed by and profoundly grateful for. And my eyes must be a mirror to his, I think, for this is the altar at which I worship.

He is John Barleycorn, consort and sacrifice. He is brutally degraded and taken for the most profane of uses, and thus a god worthy of worship and reverence. It is the sacred paradox, and it is the deepest truth and the greatest beauty that I can know in this life.

Dea gratias, forever and ever, amen.

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