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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 1:47:58 PM   
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Obviously you have little problem taking a Bull by it's horn and judging it for what it is.



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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 1:55:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		You guys are hilarious...anyway what prompted me to post it was I talk to many girls who get taken advantage of on CM and other sites, and the acid test provides some basic guidelines that would help avoid a lot of that negativity.  It is by no means an 'end all be all' guide to dominants, and if you don't pass that test you aren't a 'true' dominant or anything like that.  It is mainly useful for younger and less experienced submissives, which is why I think there are page long responses against the acid test written by older and more experienced ladies and gentlemen.  

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:00:49 PM   
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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:01:34 PM   
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it is mainly useful for younger and less experienced submissives, which is why I think there are page long responses against the acid test written by older and more experienced ladies and gentlemen.



Im not going to do my normal rant because I am pretty sure everyone knows how it goes, Im just pointing out that here is where I would have one if I could be bothered

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:02:40 PM   
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. . . Given the quotes from the article, I didn't bother to read it.  Don't feel bad, OP, I didn't bother to read most of the replies either.

. . . I don't think this article is all that relavent to folks on these boards . . .

. . . I didn't read the article so I don't know.  Did it give an operational definition for a "true dominant"?

If you had enough time to type out a 483 word response about an article and replies you didn’t read, you might have enough spare time to read the article itself.

It is worth the read, even if it is only to prove that the anti-christ is alive and well spreading disinformation on the internet.

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:02:46 PM   
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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:03:26 PM   
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Yeah, it's been a long day....... let it go.....:)



Jeff


Honestly my darling you don't know the half of it

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:06:46 PM   
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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:09:37 PM   
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Honestly my darling you don't know the half of it

Well, that caught my attention.  Thinking of you, colorful one.  PM me if you want, and I will talk advantage of your youthful subbly self.

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:12:37 PM   
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. . . Given the quotes from the article, I didn't bother to read it.  Don't feel bad, OP, I didn't bother to read most of the replies either.

. . . I don't think this article is all that relavent to folks on these boards . . .

. . . I didn't read the article so I don't know.  Did it give an operational definition for a "true dominant"?

If you had enough time to type out a 483 word response about an article and replies you didn’t read, you might have enough spare time to read the article itself.

It is worth the read, even if it is only to prove that the anti-christ is alive and well spreading disinformation on the internet.


Might I point out, dear Sir, that you somehow had the time to derive a very specific number of words that I had in my post.  I did have the spare time.  I just used it in other colorful ways.

When I am half asleep waiting for my partner to come online tonight, I will know just where to turn.  It will also give us splendid fodder for our evening's conversation. 

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:23:51 PM   
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Well, that caught my attention. Thinking of you, colorful one. PM me if you want, and I will talk advantage of your youthful subbly self.

-- Fake Internet Dom



Would it be taking advantage if I wanted it to happen? Seriously thanks hun mwah

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:43:13 PM   
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You guys are hilarious...anyway what prompted me to post it was I talk to many girls who get taken advantage of on CM and other sites, and the acid test provides some basic guidelines that would help avoid a lot of that negativity. It is by no means an 'end all be all' guide to dominants, and if you don't pass that test you aren't a 'true' dominant or anything like that. It is mainly useful for younger and less experienced submissives, which is why I think there are page long responses against the acid test written by older and more experienced ladies and gentlemen.


I agree that we are hilarious . . . especially that damn anteater!

Your motive is a common one shared on many forums whether they are lifestyle, bass fishing or gamer community forums.

As for information that is “useful for younger and less experienced submissives”, the Acid Test fails to provide anything useful. The Acid Test is counterproductive, misleading and based on fictional bullshit backed up by falsehoods like “all statisticians and scientist”. You may be the most sincere person in the world but that test is just a bunch of false crap and won’t help anyone with anything ever … anywhere at anytime. I am on my laptop so I only have a few BDSM resource links I can share with you right now. Hopefully this will lead you to some better and more credible reading content to share with your less experienced submissive friends.

Leather Archives BDSM Resources

DomSubFriends BDSM Resources

Sex Lexis (a good lexis is always handy)


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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:54:06 PM   
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You guys are hilarious...anyway what prompted me to post it was I talk to many girls who get taken advantage of on CM and other sites, and the acid test provides some basic guidelines that would help avoid a lot of that negativity.  It is by no means an 'end all be all' guide to dominants, and if you don't pass that test you aren't a 'true' dominant or anything like that.  It is mainly useful for younger and less experienced submissives, which is why I think there are page long responses against the acid test written by older and more experienced ladies and gentlemen.  

Exactly how are they being taken advantage of?  Are you referring to the fact that some folks, when they are starting out, tend to be prime targets for hit and run sexual encounters?

If so, the answer to that is very simple.  No test needed.

Take the word "Master" out of any interactions and replace it with the word "boyfriend".  Would it still be acceptable to you?

Common sense, while not especially as common as we'd like to think it is, goes a long way.


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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 2:55:50 PM   
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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:04:17 PM   
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. . . Given the quotes from the article, I didn't bother to read it. Don't feel bad, OP, I didn't bother to read most of the replies either.

. . . I don't think this article is all that relavent to folks on these boards . . .

. . . I didn't read the article so I don't know. Did it give an operational definition for a "true dominant"?

If you had enough time to type out a 483 word response about an article and replies you didn’t read, you might have enough spare time to read the article itself.

It is worth the read, even if it is only to prove that the anti-christ is alive and well spreading disinformation on the internet.


Might I point out, dear Sir, that you somehow had the time to derive a very specific number of words that I had in my post. I did have the spare time. I just used it in other colorful ways.

When I am half asleep waiting for my partner to come online tonight, I will know just where to turn. It will also give us splendid fodder for our evening's conversation.

lovingpet

Point taken. The curse of being a webmaster with browser plugins like "word count".
True, many things are more colorful than the Acid Test . . . like Level’s book:


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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:07:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		i guess i didn't find the article to be nearly as offensive as most of you seemed to.  Personally, i thought it was an entertaining read, though there were many parts that i disagreed with.  Thank you OP for sharing the article.

While not every aspect of the article is true, the D side of the D/s dynamic IS a magnet for fakes.  Is there any "acid test" that can weed them all out?  Probably not.  But that doesn't make the problem any less real.

Anyone who has been in this lifestyle for any length of time has met PLENTY of "Doms", who were really just horny nerd boys who weren't very successful getting girls in the "real" world, so they thought that "submissive" women would be easier targets.  i know that i've met plenty of Dommes who fit into that category.

Similarly, almost every Domme on here can attest that a large portion of the subs that they meet are fakes.  They think they're subs, but what they really are is horny boys who have a dominatrix fantasy and want a service top to play the dominatrix role exactly as the "sub" commands.

None of this is a great revelation to anyone here.  The problem is that human behavior is not a true science.  It is extremely varied.  Therefore, it isn't possible to create an acid test that will apply to everyone.  It just isn't possible.  But does that mean that the article was a complete waste?  I don't think so.  I thought it was humorous, and if nothing else, it serves as a warning to newbies to go into this thing (WIITWD) with their eyes wide open. 

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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:13:00 PM   
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*Tosses tha script in tha trash*

Um... what she said.


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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:21:18 PM   
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While not every aspect of the article is true, the D side of the D/s dynamic IS a magnet for fakes.

Hmmmm . . . from my side of the fence, it always seemed that the other wau around.

It was somewhere in the the AOL chat room era that lonely net savvy men and women discovered a new bait to attract partners. Submissives numbers far outweigh the Dominants, so if proportionate numbers of fakes were on both sides of the fence, there woud be more fake subs wouldn't there?


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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:26:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet
. . . Given the quotes from the article, I didn't bother to read it. Don't feel bad, OP, I didn't bother to read most of the replies either.

. . . I don't think this article is all that relavent to folks on these boards . . .

. . . I didn't read the article so I don't know. Did it give an operational definition for a "true dominant"?

If you had enough time to type out a 483 word response about an article and replies you didn’t read, you might have enough spare time to read the article itself.

It is worth the read, even if it is only to prove that the anti-christ is alive and well spreading disinformation on the internet.


Might I point out, dear Sir, that you somehow had the time to derive a very specific number of words that I had in my post. I did have the spare time. I just used it in other colorful ways.

When I am half asleep waiting for my partner to come online tonight, I will know just where to turn. It will also give us splendid fodder for our evening's conversation.

lovingpet

Point taken. The curse of being a webmaster with browser plugins like "word count".
True, many things are more colorful than the Acid Test . . . like Level’s book:



Hehe!!!  That is just hysterical! 

There for a moment I thought I'd gotten on your bad side and I sooooo am not remotely ready for that!  LOL  Now the bad side of your good side....weeeeelllllll......

lovingpet



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RE: Acid Test for True Dominants - 2/2/2010 3:33:17 PM   
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While not every aspect of the article is true, the D side of the D/s dynamic IS a magnet for fakes.

Hmmmm . . . from my side of the fence, it always seemed that the other wau around.

I have to agree with this, even though RS's kinks and mine are extremely different.  Actually, I don't, quite, because I pretty much never deal with doms directly, though I have met ResidentSadist in real life.

The #1 reason I stopped using CM as my main dating site was the number of women who were not scammers, not married, not "fake" in any way -- but were so committed to their own kink and sexuality, it seemed more important to them than anything else in the world, including serving someone else.  (This is a common complaint femdoms have about male subs, too, I know.  I actually decided to date only femdoms for a while, because of this.  I figured that way I could meet women who understood the importance of relating to people as people, not fetish delivery devices.)  In "vanilla" dating, if I put out the fact that I am kinky from jump, I am much more likely to meet women who like "alternative," but have share interests with me outside the bedroom.

These blame-the-dom posts, like the OP's, are really missing the point.  Subs are just as responsible for the BS in online (and real life) BDSM.


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