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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 7:44:34 PM

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It's just ironic, given the trashing people gave Obama for saying we should talk to our enemies, i.e., Iran.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 7:49:22 PM

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Hey, if Obama's statements have so much power, can't he just use his voodoo powers and say "Go to Vegas. Hire people. Pass health care reform"?

These are not the droids you're looking for.

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I'm truly not understanding why the difficulty is in grasping the just of Merc's post.

I do not know whether or not his statements have negatively impacted LV (although I believe it sure is possible), nor have I done a definitive study, but it doesn't take such to realize someone in the office of the President Of These United States Of America should realize the potential such a statement has for adverse consequences. Why take the risk for crissakes!

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 8:07:01 PM

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What patronizing bullshit.

We understand him fine. We disagree with him.

That's the difference between oracles and people with opinions.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 8:29:04 PM

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Merc, I do think President Obama could have made his point without having
to single out or name Las Vegas.
Unless, he was going to also include: DisneyLand, DisneyWorld, and every other vacation spot.

But, I was suprised by the numbers you have quoted!
Were the shows still 1/2 filled?
Those shows are expensive, have the prices gone down?

In THIS economic climate, on the verge of a Depression?
THAT many people can still afford the shows?
I would think Vegas would be on the verge of collapsing.
We are doing a lot better than I thought!
I am encouraged!
Thank you!

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 8:48:25 PM

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You need to watch this so you know what you are talking about in the future, blaming Obama is rightwing bullshit.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/?utm_campaign=searchpage&utm_medium=videosearch&utm_source=videosearch

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 11:05:38 PM

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What patronizing bullshit.

We understand him fine. We disagree with him.

That's the difference between oracles and people with opinions.

Has it boiled down to you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear, summarily dismissing anything that doesn't fit within your political construct? What ever in the world happened to just plain, good ole common sense?

I look through so many threads here and it truly reminds me of a bunch of bickering children! Of course, I'm not saying everyone here as the propensity to act like a child at times, but it seems pretty common.

edited to add that even if Obama were Einstein, he's not smart enough to run my life, or anyone else's for that matter.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/3/2010 11:22:53 PM

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I agree with MOST of your post, Sir.

Try Your luck at the upcoming 'tea-party' event in Nash-ville and tell us what you really think, okay?

Thanks for Your always insightful and usually spot-on opinions.

Sincerely...

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:22:29 AM

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We'll never know how smart Obama is, he's gone to great lengths to hide his college transcripts from the public.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:25:57 AM

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We'll never know how smart Obama is, he's gone to great lengths to hide his college transcripts from the public.

Yup. Everyone knows that the Harvard Law Review only allows mediocre students to head it up.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:26:47 AM

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What patronizing bullshit.

We understand him fine. We disagree with him.

That's the difference between oracles and people with opinions.

Has it boiled down to you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear, summarily dismissing anything that doesn't fit within your political construct? What ever in the world happened to just plain, good ole common sense?

I look through so many threads here and it truly reminds me of a bunch of bickering children! Of course, I'm not saying everyone here as the propensity to act like a child at times, but it seems pretty common.

edited to add that even if Obama were Einstein, he's not smart enough to run my life, or anyone else's for that matter.

Yes, if only we could all learn to be as open-minded and accepting of those outside our own political beliefs as you are.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:46:32 AM

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I found this headline from the Las Vegas Sun: Las Vegas sees 10 percent drop in visitors
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/nov/12/las-vegas-sees-10-percent-drop-visitors/

The article says in part "
The LVCVA said the number of conventions held in Las Vegas in September dropped nearly 18 percent, with the economic impact of those conventions falling more than 8 percent compared to last year, from about $519 million to $476 million.
Hotel occupancy levels dropped 7 percent, from 91.3 percent in September 2007 to 84.3 percent in September 2008. The average rate of those rooms fell 21 percent, from $142.47 to $112.58, the LVCVA said.
Clark County gaming revenue was down nearly 3 percent compared to last September.
Air traffic is down 13 percent in the past year. The traffic count on Interstate 15 at the Nevada/California state line has fallen nearly 9 percent.
Outside of Las Vegas, visitor volume fell more than 13 percent in Laughlin this past September, and dropped nearly 39 percent in Mesquite."

The article is dated November 12, 2008. It is sooooo cool that people stopped coming to Vegas based on statements a not-then-president hadn't yet uttered. It would seem Obama isn't necessarily smart, but he is magic.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:48:36 AM

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Yes, if only we could all learn to be as open-minded and accepting of those outside our own political beliefs as you are.

I can only attest to what my experiences in life are. I can only make assumptions about others, which is what I've done here based upon the reasoning behind the disagreement to Merc's initial premise. I have done my best to keep and maintain an open-mind. I can be convinced that I may have the wrong stance on political issues, or what ever else, when presented evidence that indicates otherwise. Looking at some folk's stance, I have to wonder if this really and truly is applicable to themselves. Once again, I can only speculate, as I do not know anyone here, but from merely looking at a few of the responses (in this and other threads throughout this forum), it sure seems as such.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 4:53:54 AM

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We'll never know how smart Obama is, he's gone to great lengths to hide his college transcripts from the public.

Yup. Everyone knows that the Harvard Law Review only allows mediocre students to head it up.

Steven, its all part of the eeeebil mooooozlem conspiwacy

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 5:13:48 AM

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What patronizing bullshit.

We understand him fine. We disagree with him.

That's the difference between oracles and people with opinions.

Has it boiled down to you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear, summarily dismissing anything that doesn't fit within your political construct? What ever in the world happened to just plain, good ole common sense?

I look through so many threads here and it truly reminds me of a bunch of bickering children! Of course, I'm not saying everyone here as the propensity to act like a child at times, but it seems pretty common.

edited to add that even if Obama were Einstein, he's not smart enough to run my life, or anyone else's for that matter.

Nope.

It's boiled down to you summarily dismissing anything that disagrees with what fits into yours.

Pages of argument here. All you've got is "I'm truly not understanding why the difficulty is in grasping the just of Merc's post." If you like Merc's assumptions, fine. To quite a few of the rest of us, it's fauxtrage, parroting a publicity moment from the mayor of Vegas earlier this week. Playing some kind of "I called it first! You're dismissing my claim!" is childish bullshit.

Call it bickering if you like. If you want to play with the big kids, you'll need more than scolding--people disagree. You're thrusting aside the arguments why, particularly that just because Merc frames something in a preconceived box doesn't mean the lemmings have to march behind him.

Why do you suppose your vision is crystal clear, and those who disagree are dismissive? That must be nice, knowing you have special powers. How's that work for you?

Debating is met with debating. Patronizing bullshit is met with being called on it.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand....common sense and all.......

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 5:14:37 AM

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I agree with MOST of your post, Sir.

Try Your luck at the upcoming 'tea-party' event in Nash-ville and tell us what you really think, okay?

Thanks for Your always insightful and usually spot-on opinions.

Sincerely...

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32255.html#ixzz0eZWADLrb

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 5:23:21 AM

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I can only attest to what my experiences in life are. I can only make assumptions about others, which is what I've done here based upon the reasoning behind the disagreement to Merc's initial premise. I have done my best to keep and maintain an open-mind. I can be convinced that I may have the wrong stance on political issues, or what ever else, when presented evidence that indicates otherwise. Looking at some folk's stance, I have to wonder if this really and truly is applicable to themselves. Once again, I can only speculate, as I do not know anyone here, but from merely looking at a few of the responses (in this and other threads throughout this forum), it sure seems as such.

Isn't that a wonderful testament to yourself!

But apparently it somehow escaped you that in the statement I highlighted in the previous post you were doing exactly what you complain of others doing.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 6:04:38 AM

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Obama's a moron. He directly contradicts himself in prepared speeches on a regular basis, and he doesn't even seem to realize. As to his having been president of the Harvard Law Review, until he releases his transcripts for all we know that was due to affirmative action.

Why won't he allow the release of his transcripts?

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We'll never know how smart Obama is, he's gone to great lengths to hide his college transcripts from the public.

Yup. Everyone knows that the Harvard Law Review only allows mediocre students to head it up.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 6:18:16 AM

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The moron was your guy.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/bushtranscript.html

To think that that cretin had his finger on the button...

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 6:29:33 AM

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Vegas spent a shit ton of money trying to legislate it's competition away.

Capitalism fail.

The product in vegas is gambling. CA doesn't need to go there for gambling anymore...

Vegas was always a monument, not to capitalism, but to success through government intervention.

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RE: Is Obama really as smart as he's reputed to be? - 2/4/2010 6:34:22 AM

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I found this headline from the Las Vegas Sun: Las Vegas sees 10 percent drop in visitors
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/nov/12/las-vegas-sees-10-percent-drop-visitors/

The article says in part "
[The article is dated November 12, 2008. It is sooooo cool that people stopped coming to Vegas based on statements a not-then-president hadn't yet uttered. It would seem Obama isn't necessarily smart, but he is magic.