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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:14:23 PM   
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lol, robert welch, a fuckin retard on the order of lyndon larouche.



Did he run this last election? Or has it been a few cycles since he ran for President? I know there was a period where he ran every cycle. Ah, good times.


I don't think he can run anymore, he's a convicted felon.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:18:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I rather doubt he bothers taking note of such realities. I am sure he has a convoluted and entirely indefensible shithouse legal argument about why that is incorrect, using the trilateral commission, the protocols of zion, government espionage and the magna carta explaining it.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:21:15 PM   
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lol, robert welch, a fuckin retard on the order of lyndon larouche.



Did he run this last election? Or has it been a few cycles since he ran for President? I know there was a period where he ran every cycle. Ah, good times.


I don't think he can run anymore, he's a convicted felon.



I thought he had ran a few from behind bars, and definitely ran in 2004 for the Dem nomination.

I could be wrong.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:28:03 PM   
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Every day thread after thread about this matter.  You all see it.  You all know it.  You do not know what to do about it, though you think its curable at the voting booth. (dream on).  Boths side of the isle fuck it up worse than their predecessors.

Listen to this speech and take note of the 1958 prophesies that we are living today!

Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
Is it time to start laughing at the retards that laugh at conspiracies calling them all "theories"?

Welcome to a "conspiracy" period.

Hey its tax time! woohoo!




That's way off, pandering to big business is a conservative/capitalist activity. Socialism wishes to distribute wealth fairly among the masses, it's capitalism that seeks to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few. Everything he's saying is an utter oxymoron. He clearly doesn't understand socialism, he's just afraid of communism, or rather, he desires to instill fear of communism. He's a fear monger, pure and simple.

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The only quotation I've seen from the lad was that line he nicked from the Bagavad Vita, though.

It's Bhagavad-Gita.





Do you believe in capitalism?  The existance of it?  If you do try trading the markets sometime.  :)

There is no such thing in this world at this time.




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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:32:23 PM   
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No one ever quotes Eisenhower.

why is that?


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oh yeh the guy that single handedly murdered over 1 million germans after the war.





The Terrible-Swedish-Jew.....that one?

LMAO




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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:33:43 PM   
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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:34:03 PM   
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Could you please define fairly? Is it the same sort of thing that was discussed in Animal Farm "All animals are equal, some are more equal than others"?

I didn't realize the purpose of capitalism was to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, I thought that was part of the consequences. Those with the desire, talent and willingness will amass wealth. I could be wrong.


Animal Farm is a story. Of course, I think it was intended to illustrate how when power is concentrated in the hands of a few, it can really go to their heads. The animals in Animal Farm started out with a pretty good idea, but then the wrong people got placed in positions of power and it turned into a disaster. Much like Communism under Stalin. Lenin was about to demote Stalin, but he passed away before he could do it. He wanted to demote Stalin because it was already obvious that he was a lunatic that was already abusing what power he had. Communism started out as a good idea with altruistic motives, however, I think they made a mistake by suggesting concentrating power into the hands of a few. That's always a mistake.

However, I think they were right on about Capitalism's ever increasing need to exploit more and more resources.
A spectre is haunting...

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:34:17 PM   
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That's way off, pandering to big business is a conservative/capitalist activity. Socialism wishes to distribute wealth fairly among the masses, it's capitalism that seeks to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few. Everything he's saying is an utter oxymoron. He clearly doesn't understand socialism, he's just afraid of communism, or rather, he desires to instill fear of communism. He's a fear monger, pure and simple

Could you please define fairly? Is it the same sort of thing that was discussed in Animal Farm "All animals are equal, some are more equal than others"?

I didn't realize the purpose of capitalism was to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, I thought that was part of the consequences. Those with the desire, talent and willingness will amass wealth. I could be wrong.


Do you agree with those consequences?

And I also have to disagree with what I highlighted for many reasons.

There are a great many talented people whose focus is not on making money who make great contributions to society. 

Yet a capitalistic system rewards those who generate the most revenue, not those who actually provide the most benefit to society.

Is a LeBron James worth millions of dollars while a research scientist trying to find new cancer treatments is paid a tiny fraction of that?






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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:34:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		didnt see anything there said he murdered more than a million in that picture.

you have not once shown relevant or resonably accepted cites for anything out here as of yet.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:38:08 PM   
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didnt see anything there said he murdered more than a million in that picture.

you have not once shown relevant or resonably accepted cites for anything out here as of yet.

Ron



so that restricts me to what?  Israeli sites only?

Thats called a secondary point ron and no I dont put up citations for every damn point I make until you start putting up citations for every point you try to make.  


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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:41:41 PM   
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didnt see anything there said he murdered more than a million in that picture.

you have not once shown relevant or resonably accepted cites for anything out here as of yet.

Ron


You got look deep into the boy Ike's beady eyes.. It's all there clear as fucking day.

If you place your ear against the screen you can hear him whisper...."Someday there will be a war.  When it is done I'm going to kill me a million Germans, just for shits and giggles."

That young Ike was a precocious lad.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:48:25 PM   
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Do you believe in capitalism? The existance of it? If you do try trading the markets sometime. :)

There is no such thing in this world at this time.


First of all, it's spelled "existence".

Secondly, yes, the sad consequences of capitalism are pervasive. The cartoon I posted previously gives a very accurate description of capitalism. I also agree with rulemylife on the fact that there are lots of people who work tirelessly to aid society and benefit humankind, but in this society, we reward those that make the most money, regardless of how they amassed such wealth.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:49:08 PM   
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whats so shocking about that?  we wasted well over a million mooooslums taking over their oil fields and forcing them by conquest to join the corporation.

How about the opium wars where england forced opium on china?  LOL

regarless of what people think of the OP its happening now, today and I really enjoy listening to you all whine and cry and the lftees beating up and the rightees and vice versa and if I offered you someone to punch out who could fix it all for you, you would all hit the wrong person.

Now that frankly is well funny! :)


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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:49:47 PM   
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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:52:38 PM   
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real-   these bumpkins and slicksters know it all.  You are a threat to their mental well being.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:53:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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That's way off, pandering to big business is a conservative/capitalist activity. Socialism wishes to distribute wealth fairly among the masses, it's capitalism that seeks to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few. Everything he's saying is an utter oxymoron. He clearly doesn't understand socialism, he's just afraid of communism, or rather, he desires to instill fear of communism. He's a fear monger, pure and simple

Could you please define fairly? Is it the same sort of thing that was discussed in Animal Farm "All animals are equal, some are more equal than others"?

I didn't realize the purpose of capitalism was to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, I thought that was part of the consequences. Those with the desire, talent and willingness will amass wealth. I could be wrong.


Do you agree with those consequences?

And I also have to disagree with what I highlighted for many reasons.

There are a great many talented people whose focus is not on making money who make great contributions to society. 

Yet a capitalistic system rewards those who generate the most revenue, not those who actually provide the most benefit to society.

Is a LeBron James worth millions of dollars while a research scientist trying to find new cancer treatments is paid a tiny fraction of that?







You completely skipped the 2 other qualifiers, desire and willingness.

As for your hypothetical at the end, all I can say is that society seems to think so, otherwise folks would not pay the prices that they pay. Is that right? Who knows. That same research scientist could wind up unleashing the next supervirus that takes out all of humanity.

Then again I suppose you are in favor of the Feds setting market prices for what each person is paid by a particular industry.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:54:57 PM   
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didnt see anything there said he murdered more than a million in that picture.

you have not once shown relevant or resonably accepted cites for anything out here as of yet.

Ron


I believe that what RealOne is trying to show with his image of the page on Ike, is that he was Jewish.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:55:12 PM   
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I didn't realize the purpose of capitalism was to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, I thought that was part of the consequences. Those with the desire, talent and willingness will amass wealth. I could be wrong.


...i don't think capitalism has a purpose. It's just an idea, not an entity. However, the consequence of unfettered capitalism is, sure as shit, the concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands.
Now, you go on to suggest that desire, talent and willingness will amass wealth. Thing is, in that idealised pure capitalist society, there have to be losers in order for there to be winners. Let's, for the sake of argument, assume that all the members of that society have all three of those qualities in equal measure. They wont all amass wealth equally, over time the wealth will concentrate in the hands of fewer and fewer people. That's because wealth distorts the exercise of those qualities. Let's say that in this idealised society there are just five people. Person number one wins the first round of economic activity, they are lucky and their deals come out on top. They now have more wealth going into round two than the other four people. Therefore they need to exercise less desire, talent and willingness to break even than the other four. The other four have to show more desire, talent and willingness than person one to achieve the same result. A few iterations later and the four who lost the first round have absolutely no chance to beat person number one, the amount of wealth they have simply can not compete with the amount of wealth number one has. It's no longer about desire, talent and willingness. It's now about having access to the tools to exercise it.
This is why capitalism is often referred to as unfair. A better word would unjust. Someone from a very poor background has much less chance to leverage their desire, talent and willingness into wealth, than someone from an advantaged background. There is the odd exception, but they really are exceptions. Without some sort of mitigating factor, capitalism over time is inherently unjust. However, equality of opportunity can be more nearly achieved if capitalism is tempered with an amount of socialism....if the state puts a thumb on the scales in order to let the desire, talent and willingness of those who start with less have a chance.
However, without capitalism there can be a problem with motivation. So it's important to find a blance between the two. Capitalism and socialism are not mutually exclusive doctrines, if the desired end result is for all the people to be the best that they can be.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:57:56 PM   
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Listen to this speech and take note of the 1958 prophesies that we are living today!

Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
Is it time to start laughing at the retards that laugh at conspiracies calling them all "theories"?



Why does your link claim that this is two different speeches ( 3.08 in ) One in 1958 and another in 1974 ? Its obviously the same speech.

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RE: Mind blowing speech in 1958 predicting Insiders pla... - 2/10/2010 2:58:44 PM   
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