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FatDomDaddy -> "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 6:49:53 PM)

It seems the President is a tad confused...or is it..something else???



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32795.html




tazzygirl -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:00:39 PM)

Perhaps something else...


The White House insisted that Obama hasn’t changed his view of the Wall Street’s ways. White House aides argued that the president was not saying he didn’t begrudge the Wall Street bonuses -- but was rather speaking generally about success and wealth.


“The President has said countless times as he did in the interview that he doesn’t ‘begrudge’ the success of Americans, but he also expressed ‘shock’ at the size of bonuses and made clear that there are a number of steps that need to be taken to change the culture of Wall Street. A sentiment he has consistently expressed since long before he took office,” said Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki.


White House aides offered the transcript from the Bloomberg interview as well as several examples of the president employing the exact same language in the past to back up the points.

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Financial services lobbyists and executives have been urging Obama to tone down his bank-bashing rhetoric, but one executive warned against reading Obama’s latest comments as a dramatic signal the president’s changed his position.


“I don’t think it’s being interpreted by financial services firms, or the two firms [JP Morgan and Goldman], as some wink and a nod,” said one official. “I think it’s a reflection of the complexity of the situation. I think his previous comments were overblown… and I think there’s going to probably be a tendency to over-interpret these comments as stepping back.”


According to the transcript provided by the White House, the reporter asked Obama, “Let’s talk bonuses for a minute: Lloyd Blankfein, $9 million; Jamie Dimon, $17 million. Now, granted, those were in stock and less than what some had expected. But are those numbers okay?”


Obama replied: “Well, look, first of all, I know both those guys. They're very savvy businessmen. And I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That's part of the free market system. I do think that the compensation packages that we've seen over the last decade at least have not matched up always to performance. I think that shareholders oftentimes have not had any significant say in the pay structures for CEOs.”


In the Bloomberg interview, Obama acknowledged that Dimon’s $17 million bonus is “an extraordinary amount of money” in the eyes of average working Americans, but added that “there are some baseball players who are making more than that and don’t get to the World Series either, so I’m shocked by that as well.”


“I guess the main principle we want to promote is a simple principle of ‘say on pay,’ that shareholders have a chance to actually scrutinize what CEOs are getting paid. And I think that serves as a restraint and helps align performance with pay,” said Obama, who also called for more CEO pay and bonuses to be paid in stock, instead of cash, to link compensation to company performance.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32795_Page3.html#ixzz0fC015A9D




FatDomDaddy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:08:00 PM)

More like... Big donors




tazzygirl -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:08:57 PM)

Your opinion, and your certainly entitled to it.




domiguy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:12:10 PM)

You should attempt to learn something about a subject before you post it would make you look like less of a douche.

Teel me fats, how much money does Dimond's bank owe the federal government?

Shouldn't that be the basis as to whether the President should be concerned about what a corporation pays it's CEO?


WHY DON'T YOU DO SOME HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU POST THIS DRIVEL????




Jeffff -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:18:35 PM)

If you took Federal funds because your company or bank was going belly up, shut the fuck up!

If you say, " we need to pay these people because they are valuable employees" I would remind you that these employees were there when you needed to borrow money to keep going, so shut the fuck up.

Just because a gambler gets lucky, doesn't make him good....so... shut the fuck up!

The same folks who invented, "investment vehicles" that were very much the root of the problem don't like the solution?

Shut the fuck up!




FatDomDaddy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:19:25 PM)

Hey.. I think they earn them too... and they are worth whatever they get paid... Like the President alluded too... players on failed sports teams make huge salieries and bonuses too, but then... I am center right....

Though ah... those leftist activists from your side kenneth... what's their angle?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:20:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

If you took Federal funds because your company or bank was going belly up, shut the fuck up!

If you say, " we need to pay these people because they are valuable employees" I would remind you that these employees were there when you needed to borrow money to keep going, so shut the fuck up.

Just because a gambler gets lucky, doesn't make him good....so... shut the fuck up!

The same folks who invented, "investment vehicles" that were very much the root of the problem don't like the solution?

Shut the fuck up!



Except... many of those banks were forced to take bail out money, even if they did not need it.




domiguy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:29:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

If you took Federal funds because your company or bank was going belly up, shut the fuck up!

If you say, " we need to pay these people because they are valuable employees" I would remind you that these employees were there when you needed to borrow money to keep going, so shut the fuck up.

Just because a gambler gets lucky, doesn't make him good....so... shut the fuck up!

The same folks who invented, "investment vehicles" that were very much the root of the problem don't like the solution?

Shut the fuck up!



Except... many of those banks were forced to take bail out money, even if they did not need it.


Dimond's bank did not want the money....They have already paid back every penny with interest.




Jeffff -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 7:29:40 PM)

Because their balance sheet were a fucking wreck

They too, can shut the fuck up!

All this outrage from banks who refused to police themselves. The problem is, it is no longer money, it is points.

Points have no value to people making millions of dollars a year. The markers they are playing with however, have great value to those of us who are living on less than that.

Did your retirement plan take a hit?... a large hit? Why would you support people who view you as. "main street" and thus inconsequential




AnimusRex -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 8:02:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Obama replied: “Well, look, first of all, I know both those guys. They're very savvy businessmen. And I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That's part of the free market system. I do think that the compensation packages that we've seen over the last decade at least have not matched up always to performance. I think that shareholders oftentimes have not had any significant say in the pay structures for CEOs.”


WHAT
THE
FUCK!!!

No black power salute? no "death to the imperial running dogs of capitalism"???

Hasn't Obama been watching Hannity? Doesn't he know he is the Kenyan Kommie? What is he thinking, saying shit like "thats part of the free market system"

FUCK!

Keep this up, and people might begin to suspect he is a moderate Democrat or something.

I am going to lodge a formal complaint at our next underground meeting with George Soros.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/10/2010 8:14:49 PM)

Well , if you don't, 100 likely will Rex




pahunkboy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 5:44:22 AM)

Obama is an agent for Goldman Sachs.




Moonhead -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 5:49:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Obama is an agent for Goldman Sachs.

Not the ZOG and the Illuminati?




pahunkboy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 6:04:03 AM)

he and Hillary attended Bilderburg,

but hey-- lets look at his ACTION.   Not his chipper verbiage.




rulemylife -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 6:49:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Obama is an agent for Goldman Sachs.


Like 007?




mnottertail -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 6:51:44 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRqVgHz1elU




DarkSteven -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 6:57:01 AM)

The plain and simple facts is that the American people got sold a bill of goods.  Paulson told us that the banks needed to be bailed out, or the world system would collapse due to cessation of credit.  Over screams of fury, the Congress and Senate pushed through a rescue bill, and since then credit has not eased.  Main Street is still getting screwed, just the same as before.

The banks and the government created this crisis, and have screwed the US taxpayer.  No changes have been made in the laws to prevent this from happening again, and there have been no charges filed except for egregious behavior like Madoff.

The fact that the companies are even solvent is due to the involuntary assistance of the US taxpayer.  Who, by the way, is experiencing over 10% unemployment.

My job does not grant bonuses.  I earn less than 10% of what the suits earn.  Yet I never brought down my company.

There's a big populist revolution in the works.  Obama is right now paying lip service to it.  Hopefully he'll move past that soon.




pahunkboy -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 7:12:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Obama is an agent for Goldman Sachs.


Like 007?



ta ta!   His finger IS on the nuke button.  




mnottertail -> RE: "Obscene bonuses to fat cat ban...ahhh...err Don't begrudge bonuses to bankers" (2/11/2010 8:04:39 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oepXF2B5NK4




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