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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

http://holocaustdenialontrial.org/en/learning/myth-fact/cremation5

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". . . we used the coke only to light the fire of the furnace initially, for fatty bodies burned of their own accord thanks to the combustion of the body fat.

Further, the cremation of multiple bodies at the same time, continuous usage of the ovens, the use of alternate fuels and open-air burning pits make the whole question of supplies of fuel largely irrelevant.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Ron?... you are only going to hurt your head banging it against this wall


Jeff

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

What kind of proof do you need that gas chambers existed?

the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: eagerbttm

Many people have talked! Still are! We will never know the truth! It is easy to speculate on what happened! It is all a Matrix! Perhaps ignorance is bliss! I am glad I moved to MT. More of the same is coming folks.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Oh I am sorry...

holo is whole  and cuastion is burnt.

the combination of holo and caustion create the word holocaust or wholly burnt.

See there is a huge difference in wholly burnt and genocide, that and auschwitz was only shipped roughly 30 tons of coke which was enough to roast only 2 jews per day.  so lets see thats 700x4 = 2800 max if they were to eat their food raw and go without heat in the winter.

So whats your point change the language to any damn slang that suits your agenda?

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Greek civilization is hardly "the beginning of time", and the translation of the Tanakh into the Septuagint was done around 70ad, IIRC.  Holocaust was used to describe Jewish sacrifices only because of some base similarities with the Greek tradition (Jewish tradition is much older than the Greek civilization).  So it seems you are the one misusing this term.  As usual though, you offer up no proof but your own declarations, when things aren't going your way.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne



well you see words have meanings that have etymology that dates back to the begining of time.

Retards using words completely incorrectly destroy the language as have the attorneys done.

You want to hang yourself with literary suicide be my guest but do not expect me to join you.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

I really can't figure out your obsession with the original definition of a holocaust.  It only was applied to Jewish sacrifices when the Tanakh was translated into Greek.  And it also applied to Greek sacrifices:

These are the two ideal types of Greek sacrificial ritual; they are appropriate to different divinities, done for different purposes, and conducted by different methods. Holocausts are apotropaic rituals, intended to appease the spirits of the Underworld, including the Greek heroes, who are spirits of the dead; they are also given to malign powers, such as the Keres and Hecate. One of the earliest attested holocausts was Xenophon's offering of pigs to Zeus Meilichius.[1]

Holocausts are conducted at night, without wine, and offer black-hided animals at a low altar, with their heads directed downwards; in all these they are opposed to the commensal sacrifice given to the Olympian gods. (This distinction is between extreme types, and was somewhat exaggerated in the early twentieth century, as by Jane Harrison; considerable evidence has been also been found of commensal sacrifice offered to heroes.)[2]

I've seen "holocaust" used to describe a variety of events ranging from the firestorms in Peshtigo, WI and Chicago (on the same day), and the bombings at Dresden, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima. 

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
I mean I have no evidence that Hitler ever performed the Holy burnt offering, the Olah sacrifice to G-D.

So do you have any evidence that Hitler did the Ritual Sacrifice?

You arent that stoopid that you do not know that a holocaust is a fully burned offering that is a sacrifice of an animal of human to G-D.   I mean you do know that do you not?

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

OK.
But are you suggesting that torture and other such tests on Jews/homosexuals/etc (in other words selected minoriteis) - say like testing is done on animals today - didn't take place by his generals or scientists?

the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
are you suggesting it took place on 6 million?

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The Typhus Myth
In 1941 Auschwitz had two double muffle coke

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Real, you're hitting the irony button again.  You twist definitions to suit yourself. 

Debating a Holocaust denier, a truther, or any other type of conspiracy theorist is like wrestling with an intestine.  No matter how much proof you present against the theory, it will be disregarded or ignored.

There's a lot of good info on the crematoria here:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Oh I am sorry...

holo is whole  and cuastion is burnt.

the combination of holo and caustion create the word holocaust or wholly burnt.

See there is a huge difference in wholly burnt and genocide, that and auschwitz was only shipped roughly 30 tons of coke which was enough to roast only 2 jews per day.  so lets see thats 700x4 = 2800 max if they were to eat their food raw and go without heat in the winter.

So whats your point change the language to any damn slang that suits your agenda?

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Greek civilization is hardly "the beginning of time", and the translation of the Tanakh into the Septuagint was done around 70ad, IIRC.  Holocaust was used to describe Jewish sacrifices only because of some base similarities with the Greek tradition (Jewish tradition is much older than the Greek civilization).  So it seems you are the one misusing this term.  As usual though, you offer up no proof but your own declarations, when things aren't going your way.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne



well you see words have meanings that have etymology that dates back to the begining of time.

Retards using words completely incorrectly destroy the language as have the attorneys done.

You want to hang yourself with literary suicide be my guest but do not expect me to join you.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

I really can't figure out your obsession with the original definition of a holocaust.  It only was applied to Jewish sacrifices when the Tanakh was translated into Greek.  And it also applied to Greek sacrifices:

These are the two ideal types of Greek sacrificial ritual; they are appropriate to different divinities, done for different purposes, and conducted by different methods. Holocausts are apotropaic rituals, intended to appease the spirits of the Underworld, including the Greek heroes, who are spirits of the dead; they are also given to malign powers, such as the Keres and Hecate. One of the earliest attested holocausts was Xenophon's offering of pigs to Zeus Meilichius.[1]

Holocausts are conducted at night, without wine, and offer black-hided animals at a low altar, with their heads directed downwards; in all these they are opposed to the commensal sacrifice given to the Olympian gods. (This distinction is between extreme types, and was somewhat exaggerated in the early twentieth century, as by Jane Harrison; considerable evidence has been also been found of commensal sacrifice offered to heroes.)[2]

I've seen "holocaust" used to describe a variety of events ranging from the firestorms in Peshtigo, WI and Chicago (on the same day), and the bombings at Dresden, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima. 

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
I mean I have no evidence that Hitler ever performed the Holy burnt offering, the Olah sacrifice to G-D.

So do you have any evidence that Hitler did the Ritual Sacrifice?

You arent that stoopid that you do not know that a holocaust is a fully burned offering that is a sacrifice of an animal of human to G-D.   I mean you do know that do you not?

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
are you suggesting it took place on 6 million?

Are you suggesting that 6million is worse that 1 single person?

the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
are you suggesting it took place on 6 million?

Are you suggesting that 6million is worse that 1 single person?

the.dark.

hardly.  you are the one making general statements here and I need to know where your boundaries are.  From what you said I have no reason to believe you have any.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ron tell us how it is possible to burn a body in a pit and why they would move from an efficient crematorium to a pit LMAO

well, you put them in the pit, you dump gasoline or diesel or even wood in with them...sometimes you dont bother burning them...but on another thread you are speaking of halocaust and you don't know what gehenna is? It is a dump off the sides of the hills in Jerusalem where they dumped refuse and burned it in the days of yore, bodies amongst the things they burnt, and that was the context that Yeh'ua ha Notzri was using by way of illustration.

Ron an orthodox jewish rabbi would have your nutsack for making a comparison like that.

where do you dig this ridiculous no brainer intelligence insulting shit up from anyway?

hhow would you know that you've been insulted? you don't possess the intelligence.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
WTC 1 & 2 collapsed due to fire weakening the structure until a single floor pancaked down on the one under. The dynamic stress from that was far beyond what the design was built to handle and it then proceeded to pancake over and over one floor at a time all the way down.

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
are you suggesting it took place on 6 million?

Are you suggesting that 6million is worse that 1 single person?

the.dark.

hardly.  you are the one making general statements here and I need to know where your boundaries are.  From what you said I have no reason to believe you have any.

You don't really need to know a persons boundaries to state fact.
I am just trying to assertain your agenda, which is why I asked you how you define genocide.

the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

that looks burnt to me, and I dont give a fuck what a orthodox jewish rabbi does, not all are orthodox. but while in the law it is forbidden, there are still jews being cremated today.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
genocide is in the dictionary you know and it is not holocaust, at least it wasnt until 1945.

its not my linguistic abilities in question here its yours.

if you can show how the word holocaust can be linguistically the same as genocide be my guest.