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juliaoceania -> Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:00:39 PM)
quote: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards quote: ORIGINAL: purepleasure quote: ORIGINAL: stella41b This thread has become the Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards. I agree! And, I think Beavis left around page 9 of this fiasco. Who knew that Beavis is the smart one? I think we can at least change it temporarily

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:17:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 Bob, It's amazing that some of the "trolls" (as you label them) that are in mono-relationships and don't engage in casual BDSM are even up against you here. What's your theory or notion on that? Acceptance here comes with a price. It's not the foundational ideological concept of love and BDSM, that people are having an issue with. The cost/price is associated with totalitarianistic attitude. Nobody is debating Love, but rather freedom. You are right Bob, your totalitarianist view is not tolerated. Totalitarianism threatens Freedoms and Civil Rights. Be it left wing or right wing totalitarianism. Exactly how do you see my beliefs infringing on your freedom?

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:19:26 PM)
All beliefs infringe on freedoms apart from the belief in freedom.

juliaoceania -> Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:20:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 Bob, It's amazing that some of the "trolls" (as you label them) that are in mono-relationships and don't engage in casual BDSM are even up against you here. What's your theory or notion on that? Acceptance here comes with a price. It's not the foundational ideological concept of love and BDSM, that people are having an issue with. The cost/price is associated with totalitarianistic attitude. Nobody is debating Love, but rather freedom. You are right Bob, your totalitarianist view is not tolerated. Totalitarianism threatens Freedoms and Civil Rights. Be it left wing or right wing totalitarianism. Exactly how do you see my beliefs infringing on your freedom? You do understand that when one extends their beliefs into blanket condemnation of the way others live that this is the slippery slope of attempting to get others to support that position, and then comes the suppression of lifeways that you do not believe in. You must feel very strongly about it to be so committed to bringing attention to the fact you think casual BDSM is abuse... that is one step away from advocating people who do this be stopped in some way, perhaps legally...

xxblushesxx -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:20:51 PM)
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BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:23:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 All beliefs infringe on freedoms apart from the belief in freedom. So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:25:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania You do understand that when one extends their beliefs into blanket condemnation of the way others live that this is the slippery slope of attempting to get others to support that position, and then comes the suppression of lifeways that you do not believe in. You must feel very strongly about it to be so committed to bringing attention to the fact you think casual BDSM is abuse... that is one step away from advocating people who do this be stopped in some way, perhaps legally... What she just said Bob, explains it.

DesFIP -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:25:36 PM)
Actually the logical extention of legally banning casual bdsm play is banning casual sex. So don't decide to go home with that cutie at the party, Bob's police will get ya!

juliaoceania -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:27:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Actually the logical extention of legally banning casual bdsm play is banning casual sex. So don't decide to go home with that cutie at the party, Bob's police will get ya! They will have to sign a Love Voucher before being allowed to do the nasty

BLoved -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:27:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved Exactly how do you see my beliefs infringing on your freedom? You do understand that when one extends their beliefs into blanket condemnation of the way others live that this is the slippery slope of attempting to get others to support that position, and then comes the suppression of lifeways that you do not believe in. You must feel very strongly about it to be so committed to bringing attention to the fact you think casual BDSM is abuse... that is one step away from advocating people who do this be stopped in some way, perhaps legally... So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others. And that is not totalitarian of you.

DesFIP -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:28:25 PM)
What if your pick up bites you? That's rough sex. It can be called bdsm sex, obviously it's abuse. In your twisted viewpoint, that is.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:28:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 All beliefs infringe on freedoms apart from the belief in freedom. So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything. You can believe what you like but you have to keep it to yourself and not dictate to others. Everyone has to find the way that suits them, not be lead or guided. I don't believe in mentoring because your life is your own and following the path that someone else sets means not discovering the path less travelled. BDSM in this case is the path less travelled. I suppose also I should have qualified what I said with the word 'can'.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:30:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 All beliefs infringe on freedoms apart from the belief in freedom. So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything. No you can believe in what you wish to believe in, however not give you the right to infrige upon others freedoms. You have your Freedom of personal choice and other people have their freedom of personal choices. You are not respecting other people's freedoms in calling them abusers and abusive and that they are immature, also making it a point to stress that your way is the right way for everybody.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:30:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 You can believe what you like but you have to keep it to yourself and not dictate to others. And who gave you the right to make the rules for others?

juliaoceania -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:31:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved Exactly how do you see my beliefs infringing on your freedom? You do understand that when one extends their beliefs into blanket condemnation of the way others live that this is the slippery slope of attempting to get others to support that position, and then comes the suppression of lifeways that you do not believe in. You must feel very strongly about it to be so committed to bringing attention to the fact you think casual BDSM is abuse... that is one step away from advocating people who do this be stopped in some way, perhaps legally... So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others. And that is not totalitarian of you. You made my Whip's point... you are a dangerous person who cannot be allowed to post your opinions unchallenged. You are allowed to them, no one is stopping you from posting them, but leave them unchallenged, NEVER. I can totally understand why freedom loving people would follow you around the internet and stomp on your hatred every chance they get.. If I had the chance to stop Nazi ideology I would like to think that I would have stepped up and done so... and you sir, you are a Nazi... and I do not say that lightly... I am fully aware of what I am saying... The Nazis were stopping immorality and abuse in their minds too... and you would seek nothing more than to stop people from being free... that makes you a scary fucking dude....

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:33:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved So freedom means not being allowed to believe in anything. No you can believe in what you wish to believe in, however not give you the right to infrige upon others freedoms. You have your Freedom of personal choice and other people have their freedom of personal choices. You are not respecting other people's freedoms in calling them abusers and abusive and that they are immature, also making it a point to stress that your way is the right way for everybody. And you are not respecting my freedom by telling me what I must say and what I cannot say.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:34:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 You can believe what you like but you have to keep it to yourself and not dictate to others. And who gave you the right to make the rules for others? Jesus Christ our saviour, I was speaking with him yesterday.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:34:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved Exactly how do you see my beliefs infringing on your freedom? You do understand that when one extends their beliefs into blanket condemnation of the way others live that this is the slippery slope of attempting to get others to support that position, and then comes the suppression of lifeways that you do not believe in. You must feel very strongly about it to be so committed to bringing attention to the fact you think casual BDSM is abuse... that is one step away from advocating people who do this be stopped in some way, perhaps legally... So you condemn anyone who doesn't believe as you do and then do your best to silence him so as to put a stop to any advocacy that might prevent you from abusing others. And that is not totalitarian of you. It's only condemn those that have condemning views. Dude, you have no right telling other people how to fucking run their lives and passing judgement upon them, when thier actions have no effect upon your life and freedoms. You are being condemned for condeming other people basically.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/19/2010 6:35:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 You can believe what you like but you have to keep it to yourself and not dictate to others. And who gave you the right to make the rules for others? What gives you the right to dictate to others how they should live?

BLoved -> RE: Beavis and Butthead Show of the Collarme boards (2/19/2010 6:36:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania you are a dangerous person who cannot be allowed to post your opinions unchallenged. ... The Nazis were stopping immorality and abuse in their minds too... and you would seek nothing more than to stop people from being free... that makes you a scary fucking dude.... And all ths based on the premise that I personally will lead a movement that will have casual bdsm banned world-wide.

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