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Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/18/2010 5:28:35 PM

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This is one projected that I would LOVE to get into, but I feel like a complete moron going into. I haven't bothered getting my hands on some leather for two simple reasons. The first is I don't even know where to get leather. The second is that I know pretty much nothing about leather except that it smells good and feels yummy. *sighs*

Please help me get through this project step by step because I am sure it is something I will enjoy doing for a long time to come. This is step one and, after I have done it successfully, I will ask more I guess. So where do I get this leather? What kind do I want? How do I know if it is of good quality? What other tools and materials will I need and where do I get those things? Your help is greatly appreciated in advance.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/18/2010 5:36:57 PM

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Here's a bit of light reading for you:
http://www.mybdsm.com/pages/carmb/howflog.html
I need to go back to work, but will answer when I'm done.
Oh, and see if there is a Tandy Leather store near you. It's a chain, so there is a good chance.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/18/2010 7:46:59 PM

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Thank you! I read all of that and it doesn't sound particularly hard. I just have a knack for making things more complicated than they have to be. I appreciate the details you will provide later!

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/19/2010 7:12:52 AM

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What a great link...thanks WyldHrt. I have 2 very soft and buttery deer skins that I've been wanting to use for this purpose but totally messed up on once before ( ugh!). These directions are much easier then what I tried to follow with my failed attempt.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/20/2010 10:34:16 PM

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quote:

Please help me get through this project step by step because I am sure it is something I will enjoy doing for a long time to come. This is step one and, after I have done it successfully, I will ask more I guess. So where do I get this leather? What kind do I want? How do I know if it is of good quality? What other tools and materials will I need and where do I get those things? Your help is greatly appreciated in advance.

Apologies for the late reply, I got distracted with some PRS troll nonsense.

Ah, well.

Okies, first up is the leather. Until you are more familiar with weights and types of hide, it's best to find a place where you can see and feel the leather you are considering. I suggested Tandy, but there are other places that can be found with a short round of Google.

For a first project, don't get too fancy with the leather. Boo-boos happen when you are learning, and it is best if they happen to a $12 piece of cow hide instead of the $150 perfectly tanned deer hide that you just couldn't resist buying. If you can find a place that has a "scrap" bin with decent sized pieces, that's the place to start. Pick a leather that is flexible (NO saddle leather, that is for paddles

), but not too stretchy (like deer or elk) or thin (if it feels like it might tear when you pull on it, move on).
A mid weight cow hide is easy to work with, durable enough for use, and relatively inexpensive.
Tip: Flashing your bewbage and a slutty smile at the clerk to get him to cut the leather into a properly sized rectangle is optional, but might save you a bit of effort, while making his day.

Now, to equipment. Save yourself some effort and headache by buying a large cutting mat, quality rotary cutter, and a thick plastic 6" wide, 24-36" long ruler/straight edge of the type made for made for quilters (all found at WalMart, with the quilting supplies). Make sure that the ruler has markings along its entire length, as you will need them to keep the falls even.
You will also need a saw to cut the dowel/ copper pipe for the handle, unless you use the abovementioned bewbage flash to get the clerk at the hardware store to cut it for you.

On glue to put the whole thing together, I highly recommend E6000- available at WalMart, Michael's, and most other hardware or craft stores. Don't get too crazy with the glue, esp around the edges of the leather.
You will also want some furniture tacks to finish the raw edge of the handle (warning: getting them in straight is harder than it looks!)

ETA- On cutting the falls, keep in mind that the width of the falls will effect the feel of the finished flogger. Thicker falls will give more thud, thinner more sting. Same goes for the weight of the leather used and the number of falls- thicker leather/ more falls will give more thud, thinner/ less falls more sting.

Hopefully, this will get you started. If you have further questions, either ask here or drop me a cmail.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/20/2010 10:39:59 PM

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What a great link...thanks WyldHrt. I have 2 very soft and buttery deer skins that I've been wanting to use for this purpose but totally messed up on once before ( ugh!). These directions are much easier then what I tried to follow with my failed attempt

You're welcome, Carrie.

Just keep in mind that deer hide is very stretchy, due to being soft and buttery. When you lay it out to cut, make sure that it isn't stretched at all, as that will cause problems later.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 10:56:14 AM

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Weird.

I started looking at that nifty link and, near immediately, my WinAmp randomizer jumped to Tori Amos' "Suede" (as I'm reading the author's recommendation of using suede for your first flogger attempt).

But, nice tutorial!

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 11:10:31 AM

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Just keep in mind that deer hide is very stretchy, due to being soft and buttery. When you lay it out to cut, make sure that it isn't stretched at all, as that will cause problems later.

Yeah...I learned this the hard way

Again...thanks for the link.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 12:39:59 PM

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One of the easiest ways to make sure all your tails are perfect is a clear plastic board found at WalMart with slits cut in it every 1/2 inch. You just lay your leather on your cutting board and this plastic slotted board on your leather and use the rotary cutter WydHrt mentions to cut your tails. Of course using this method you are limited to tails of 1/2 inch. However, you don't have to worry about your leather stretching and not having your tails even.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:10:55 PM

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quote:

Weird.

I started looking at that nifty link and, near immediately, my WinAmp randomizer jumped to Tori Amos' "Suede" (as I'm reading the author's recommendation of using suede for your first flogger attempt).

LOL, that's one of those things that would only happen to you, NZ!

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:12:53 PM

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One of the easiest ways to make sure all your tails are perfect is a clear plastic board found at WalMart with slits cut in it every 1/2 inch. You just lay your leather on your cutting board and this plastic slotted board on your leather and use the rotary cutter WydHrt mentions to cut your tails. Of course using this method you are limited to tails of 1/2 inch. However, you don't have to worry about your leather stretching and not having your tails even.

Not quite. I made a green suede, copper handled flogger with 1" tails. It's a mop that packs one hell of a "WHUMP!"
Awesome suggestion, Peppermint!

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:19:11 PM

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Yeah...I learned this the hard way

*psst* So did I. My first attempt was with a gorgeous grey streeeeeeatchy elkskin.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:21:15 PM

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Thank you Wyld! I am in the supply collecting phase here, so I will be hitting Michaels tomorrow to see if I can get my hands on all the stuff I need. It seems like cutting shouldn't be too bad given that I am apparently making "the flogger of death" LOL. The only leather I was able to get my hands on was upolstery leather.

Somehow I think I am going to live to regret this little project.

The handle is probably where I am most confused. Most everything I am reading doesn't make sense to my little brain. It just sounds really complicated. *sighs* I'll take it one step at a time and see what I get. I appreciate your help and will cmail you at some point, I am sure.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:29:05 PM

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The handle is the easy part, at least until you have enough experience to mess with weighting it. Once you have the falls cut, do a "trial run" by placing the dowel at the lower edge of the solid side of your leather and rolling the whole thing up tightly. Do this a few times before breaking out the glue, as getting it even takes a bit of practice. If you have done it correctly, the dowel will be wrapped in solid leather and the falls will hang loose.

ETA- It just so happens that I am making some toys for a friend from here today, and floggers are on the list. I'll see if I can get some photos of the whole process to send you, LP. Seeing pics of flogger making "in progress" may help when you go to do it yourself.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:34:03 PM

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That part isn't so much it. It is doing something to make it look nice and not like it is incomplete and the work of a three year old. LOL Those braids, weaves, knots and such puzzle me to no end.

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ETA: I forgot to thank Peppermint. I will see what I can find. I was looking to do the tails probably about 1/2 inch. I am looking for more of a 50/50 thud/sting deal.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 2:47:30 PM

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That part isn't so much it. It is doing something to make it look nice and not like it is incomplete and the work of a three year old. LOL Those braids, weaves, knots and such puzzle me to no end.

Don't worry about braids and such for your first try, lol. Use the furniture tacks to hold the raw edge down, and cut 2 pieces to wrap around the top and bottom of the handle, like these (made for SteelofUtah's Bday 2008):

ETA- Apologies that the furniture tacks on that set aren't quite even. That happens when said floggers are finished in a Vegas hotel room, using a slave's shoe as a hammer because dumbass me forgot to bring one.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 3:41:14 PM

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Thank you Wyld! I'll be looking for the pictures when you get a chance.

And the story about the tacks in those floggers....just priceless! I think I would take the uneven tacks with a good story over perfection any day! LOL

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 3:52:10 PM

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And the story about the tacks in those floggers....just priceless! I think I would take the uneven tacks with a good story over perfection any day! LOL

It was actually quite hilarious. I had Steel's wife andi cutting the flogger tails on one, while Strongmindbody tried to hammer the tacks on another (with one of andi's shoes), and I was gluing the handle on the third... about an hour before the birthday party was supposed to start!

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 4:12:43 PM

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LOL!!!!! Awesome memories!

These are for my partner's birthday in a couple months. I figured I'd best get started sooner rather than later because that would have been a TRUE disaster if it were me.... hilarious.... but a disaster nonetheless.

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RE: Leather Flogger Making for Dummies - 2/21/2010 8:22:02 PM

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That part isn't so much it. It is doing something to make it look nice and not like it is incomplete and the work of a three year old. LOL Those braids, weaves, knots and such puzzle me to no end.

Think simple for your first floggers. As you work with the leather more you'll get a feel as to what you can and can not do. Gary's first floggers 4 years ago were pathetic, but very functional. We still use them. My favorite of his is still the one with no braiding and no turks head knots. It's the simplest of black leather with silver trim and is starkly beautiful.

Gary now makes lovely floggers with all the fancy touches. His beaver floggers are simply gorgeous.

BTW....Gary learned the hard way to NOT cut fur in the motor home. The fur flies everywhere.

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