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CBT question - 2/25/2010 7:36:46 AM   
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How much CBT play either over time or during a session, can lead to serious heath problems, affecting either virility, ability to achieve/maintain an erection or even cancer (I heard one Domme mention this occurring I don't know if there is any proof to it)?

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RE: CBT question - 2/25/2010 6:12:57 PM   
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Ive never seen a problem, but Im not one of the more vicious ones......


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RE: CBT question - 3/14/2010 7:30:25 PM   
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For the most part none...the balls can take a lot.  I have however had some issues with priapisms so I haven't done any cbt in quite some time.  May gradually get back in to it though.

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RE: CBT question - 3/25/2010 9:44:00 AM   
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I don't think priapism is what's worrying the OP, somehow...



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RE: CBT question - 3/25/2010 9:54:11 AM   
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As with so many questions, the answer depends.

Here it depends on what you mean by CBT.....  There's a male sadist in Denver metro area who cut open the scrotum of a male bottom and dripped hot wax into it.  Serious health problems ensued. (All non-consensually, of course.)

On the other hand you did say "CBT play."  One man's torture is another man's "when are you going to start?"

Please re-ask, describing just what kinda "play" you have in mind.  I'm guessing you're doing something and are curious as to what physical limits you want to avoid as you proceed further.  Right?

So the real question is "I'm doing XYZ and am looking to find out where this might lead."

Regards, Lance Hughes (who has lectured on CBT to both straight and gay audiences in Denver Metro for..... oh, let's see.... probably 15 years now.)

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RE: CBT question - 3/25/2010 11:28:32 AM   
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Just in case the other guy doesn't come back, I would like to ask your advice Lance, if I may
I love doing CBT but my mans tackle is important to me as well as him!
Excuse me for saying this but the guys got beautiful balls with plenty of skin to play around with. I like stretching them with either rope or by hanging weights on them and oh my do they stretch. It keeps crossing my mind that if I persist with this 'oh so delicious hobby' will they end up permanently dangling round his knees?
The other thing I would love to try but can't get any information on this, is sticking a needle through the head of his cock. I have done a PA but thats a bit different and I know what I'm doing with that.
Have you done this? know anyone personally who has done it?

Many thanks

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RE: CBT question - 3/25/2010 1:49:37 PM   
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You wrote: Excuse me for saying this but the guys got beautiful balls with plenty of skin to play around with.

I can think of NO reason to apologize, but we'll just go to your first question: It keeps crossing my mind that if I persist with [stretching them with either rope or by hanging weights on them] will they end up permanently dangling round his knees?

Ans: Send him to me and I'll check if his balls are "too long."  LOL!  What you are stretching is the scrotum (and the various tubes leading from testicles back into body.)  I get about 1/8" every month if I wear a "ball stretcher" constantly.  Your milage, er.... his mileage will vary.  That means my "speed" is 1-1/2 inches per year.  Balls to knee is about 24 inches, so he'd have to wear a stretcher constantly for 16 years.

I'm guessing your question is more about the permanence.  Sounds like you take off the gear at end of scene.  NOPE.  No permanent anything.  And here's why:  What stretches the ball sac is having it on just tight enough so that you see a shiny-ness <sp?> to the skin.  What's happening is the top layer is being pulled away from the next layer.  Holding that "off" for 2-3 days, makes the under layer heal quicker and in a stretched fashion.  Pop off the stretcher, and within a couple of hours the outside layer will molt - just like a lizard/snack/etc. molts to allow the larger, new skin to breathe.  I like to force-feed the molting to the boy.... OOPS!  I'm giving away some secrets here.

So that's why a ball stretching goes so slowly....  layer of skin by layer of skin.

And that is NOT what you are doing, so unless you let/make him wear the ropes to work, he's not gonna get longer.

I do have a caution for you tho'...... do not damage all those tubes. Not too tight a rope tie..... Ropes can shrink.

On the other hand, weights can be attached with any number of leather straps or other gizmos (look up leather parachutes - one of my least favorites.)  Using leather, the tubes are not tied too tight.  Ropes might be too tight AND twist. Twisting is a BIG no-no for those tubes!

On the other hand, there's a thing called a whirly-gig.  Details to follow. (as will answer to Question #2 regarding needles and tip-o-dick.)  MUST run!


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RE: CBT question - 3/26/2010 5:07:03 AM   
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Thanks Lance, lots of good information.

To be honest I find parachutes and other little leather gadgets a pain. I do tend to use fine silk rope and I am always careful about twists and knots. I also don't leave anything on for any length of time.
Very interesting about the skin shedding and great news that at least my man isn't going be tripping over them in the next few years

I wish we had more informative threads like this one.

Regards and respect

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RE: CBT question - 3/26/2010 7:23:45 AM   
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Thanks for the compliments.  All you have to do is ask.  I love passing on the info I have acquired.  It's my legacy, if you will.

For those that would like to have bottom trip over 'em.....

If you see no purple after Leather on for an hour, okay for overnite and work, and three days.
If you see purple BEFORE the hour - get it OFF!!! Too tight!!!

Gotta run!  I'll be back.

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RE: CBT question - 4/1/2010 6:05:48 PM   
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Speaking of work, Lance bit off WAAAYyyyyy more than he can chew.  I want to write  a longish response but wanted y'all to know I haven't forgotten you. (Well, maybe a little bit. LOL!)

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RE: CBT question - 4/3/2010 9:36:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
Ans: Send him to me and I'll check if his balls are "too long."  LOL!  What you are stretching is the scrotum (and the various tubes leading from testicles back into body.)  I get about 1/8" every month if I wear a "ball stretcher" constantly.  Your milage, er.... his mileage will vary.  That means my "speed" is 1-1/2 inches per year.  Balls to knee is about 24 inches, so he'd have to wear a stretcher constantly for 16 years.





OMG you MATHish people!
But one question- does the skin shedding reduce
hair growth???

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RE: CBT question - 4/3/2010 10:49:38 PM   
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Nope. Folicles come right along.  Think mild sun-burn. Skin peels, right?

Besides, boys should have clean-shaven balls, no?

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RE: CBT question - 4/14/2010 9:56:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

Just in case the other guy doesn't come back, I would like to ask your advice Lance, if I may
I love doing CBT but my mans tackle is important to me as well as him!
Excuse me for saying this but the guys got beautiful balls with plenty of skin to play around with. I like stretching them with either rope or by hanging weights on them and oh my do they stretch. It keeps crossing my mind that if I persist with this 'oh so delicious hobby' will they end up permanently dangling round his knees?
The other thing I would love to try but can't get any information on this, is sticking a needle through the head of his cock. I have done a PA but thats a bit different and I know what I'm doing with that.
Have you done this? know anyone personally who has done it?

Many thanks

Maria




If you haven't already, you might want to read Hardy Haberman's two books on CBT: "Family Jewels" and "More Family Jewels"; both available from Amazon and various other places. 
 
As for the play piercing, you may want to ask a piercer about the different nerves in the head of the penis and possible side effects.  What you're talking about doing is similar to either an Apradravya or an Ampallang depending on the direction in which you do the piercing.  Both of them take extended periods of time to heal using full sized piercings.  See http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Main_Page for more on them and other piercings.
 
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