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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: Rule
You are now speaking about one of the towers? Or did WTC7 also lurch?

I did investigate the fires in the towers. Those fires were small, of limited duration, and as best as I could determine burned at a maximum temperature of about 230 degrees Centigrade. Those fires could not have made the towers collapse.

WTC7 from memory wasn't that slender, why should it lurch it already had a low centre of gravity.

It really offends me because I watched those towers burn before they collapsed, you nuts are taking away from the fact people were waving for help from those towers with fire raging beneath them. The fire we all saw.

I get offended when people claim they watched it burn and for the life of me I cant find any damn fire!  Please point out the fire?







I get very offended when people claim there was all that fire when I cant find any substantial fire what so ever.
So please for all of us point out all that fire that you watched?

I really dont think you need a degree in fire to understand the difference between fire and no fire.

You are taking away from those many independent sources that recorded the initial impacts from various locations. You are trying to rewrite the history we all saw and remembered.

yeh and they all show the airplane going all the way through the building.

We know that is impossible so how can you say that?

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
It really offends me because I watched those towers burn before they collapsed, you nuts are taking away from the fact people were waving for help from those towers with fire raging beneath them. The fire we all saw.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
You are taking away from those many independent sources that recorded the initial impacts from various locations. You are trying to rewrite the history we all saw and remembered.

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ORIGINAL: Rule
I like being a nut, thank you. I am even nuttier than you think. Waving people do not make a building collapse, so they are no factor in the collapse.

Yep, I also saw some smoke coming out of them towers. However, smoke neither does make a building collapse. In fact smoke transports heat away, so it was less hot than if there had been no smoke.

As for that little bit of fire? Not sufficient to make such buildings collapse.

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There were no planes. Thus all these independent sources at those various locations were either lying or purposely telling their individual truth in such a suggestive way that it was interpreted as something else.

Nobody can rewrite the past. The past is, whatever lies people tell about it.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Rule
I had read up about that suggestion a couple of years ago and my conclusion was that there was no solid evidence for missiles being present: missiles are a false trail.

I agree.

I stick with 7 which was imploded for the insurance money.   

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Believe me when I say there is no way at all you can be nuttier than I think you are.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

You've fucked up that quote I don't remember posting images and I don't know who you are answering.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: Rule
I like being a nut, thank you. I am even nuttier than you think. Waving people do not make a building collapse, so they are no factor in the collapse.

Yep, I also saw some smoke coming out of them towers. However, smoke neither does make a building collapse. In fact smoke transports heat away, so it was less hot than if there had been no smoke.

As for that little bit of fire? Not sufficient to make such buildings collapse.

There is no smoke without fire, I saw fire too.

This is how people justify telling lies about history? What is your point?

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

right-  1000 engineers signed petition.

go figure.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
You have a better imagination than me, this is true.

At no point in life have I looked for the most unrealistic complex answer to a question.

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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

You've fucked up that quote I don't remember posting images and I don't know who you are answering.

If you're talking about post # 61 ... Check it again ... I'll accept your apology

Pirate

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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: Rule
You are now speaking about one of the towers? Or did WTC7 also lurch?

I did investigate the fires in the towers. Those fires were small, of limited duration, and as best as I could determine burned at a maximum temperature of about 230 degrees Centigrade. Those fires could not have made the towers collapse.

WTC7 from memory wasn't that slender, why should it lurch it already had a low centre of gravity.

It really offends me because I watched those towers burn before they collapsed, you nuts are taking away from the fact people were waving for help from those towers with fire raging beneath them. The fire we all saw.

I get offended when people claim they watched it burn and for the life of me I cant find any damn fire!  Please point out the fire?







I get very offended when people claim there was all that fire when I cant find any substantial fire what so ever.
So please for all of us point out all that fire that you watched?

I really dont think you need a degree in fire to understand the difference between fire and no fire.

You are taking away from those many independent sources that recorded the initial impacts from various locations. You are trying to rewrite the history we all saw and remembered.

yeh and they all show the airplane going all the way through the building.

We know that is impossible so how can you say that?

Look ... help me (persuade your foreign audience time) out if you can be arsed, since I thought we were on about building 7 ... where exactly is it here ?

Or are you lot just joining in with the programme and tring to muddy the water ?

Pirate

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
You have a better imagination than me, this is true.
At no point in life have I looked for the most unrealistic complex answer to a question.

I quote:
1) "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in "A Scandal in Bohemia", spoken by the character Sherlock Holmes."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Truth

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

You've fucked up that quote I don't remember posting images and I don't know who you are answering.

If you're talking about post # 61 ... Check it again ... I'll accept your apology

Pirate

Nope it's still fucked up

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy
Not sure what people waving for help has to do with the question ??? I think it's more emotive to say falling helplessly to death rather than be burned alive (did they show that in the USA ? because that's certainly what I saw where I watched it). 

Real0ne is suggesting a controlled demolition with little fire and I am suggesting that I recall the building standing for a long period of time while the fire raged and I distinctly recall the fire because some emotive realities are hard to forget.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well they like to take the conversation all over hoping they stand a better chance of making one of their arguments stick.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
"No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary" William of Occam

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
"In so far as a scientific statement speaks about reality, it must be falsifiable: and in so far as it is not falsifiable, it does not speak about reality" Karl Popper.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Three quotes, I win quotewars.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

I don't care who originally posted it in that state, people should take responsibility for everything they quote onwards.

real0ne fucked it up originally so what? Asking him to fix it is like asking him to believe 911 wasn't a conspiracy, I don't expect others to perpetuate it.

If you are quoting someone it means you have read the entire history of the quote, if you continue those original misquotes then it becomes questionable as to if you understood who said what and what the actual chain of events within the conversation were.

This is why I'm careful to ensure everything that goes through me is checked and I'll apologise if anyone ever points out my failings in this respect.