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Lucylastic -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 10:20:01 AM)
You will be assimilated...have a cup of tea ..... I thought we had decided to call them donkey punchers, Snorts yes I admit Ken it is hysterical...except all they can promise is violence and less freedom to anyone who disagrees with them...thats some wonderful party right there!!.[8\|]

NorthernGent -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 11:08:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne the king of england pledged all this chattels to rome and once pledged can only be redacted by both parties or by conquest. Didn't the King of England tell Rome to do one?.......and the Pope and associates spent the best part of a couple of centuries attempting to return England to Catholicism? (including Spanish Armada etc etc). England and the Papacy ain't exactly moving in motion. their internal arguments aside it does not change that they are joined at the hip. you will find 3 oblesques, england = the bank/crown, rome the church, washington. they are all joined at the hip. its a big club and we aint in it. Slavery by Consent Pt.6 (The Corporation) I don't know so much about the New York incident but I do know about English history. Here - it was - and still is in an indisious and underground fashion - accepted wisdom that you couldn't/can't be catholic and English/nationalist. Real0ne - you spend a lot of time talking about the English - well the Queen and the Bank of England - you look it up mate. As an example - when English soldiers went to France and Belguim in WW1 they were struck by the images of Jesus Christ in churches - which was a massive surprise and a source of amusement. You work out what that means for English religious beliefs and our links with the papacy. As a hint - we like it simple/cautious/down to earth.

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 12:03:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne the king of england pledged all this chattels to rome and once pledged can only be redacted by both parties or by conquest. Didn't the King of England tell Rome to do one?.......and the Pope and associates spent the best part of a couple of centuries attempting to return England to Catholicism? (including Spanish Armada etc etc). England and the Papacy ain't exactly moving in motion. their internal arguments aside it does not change that they are joined at the hip. you will find 3 oblesques, england = the bank/crown, rome the church, washington. they are all joined at the hip. its a big club and we aint in it. Slavery by Consent Pt.6 (The Corporation) I don't know so much about the New York incident but I do know about English history. Here - it was - and still is in an indisious and underground fashion - accepted wisdom that you couldn't/can't be catholic and English/nationalist. Real0ne - you spend a lot of time talking about the English - well the Queen and the Bank of England - you look it up mate. As an example - when English soldiers went to France and Belguim in WW1 they were struck by the images of Jesus Christ in churches - which was a massive surprise and a source of amusement. You work out what that means for English religious beliefs and our links with the papacy. As a hint - we like it simple/cautious/down to earth. well first and foremost for and on the record I am not an adverse party. That said the problem you are dealing with here is they are driving the people in the US into the brink of war over taxation AGAIN and the information is out among the millions of the concerned that the seat of our government is in england and always has been. I for one do not go by testimony of the winners since they write the history which I have found through my own research to be an abortion of the truth. I go by cause and effect and a means to an end and in the final analysis it invariably is always MONEY AND POWER. "NOTHING" else. Yeh you had that king that changed to protestantism with the claim he wanted to get a divorce but it also served to calm the slaves from uprising. (your great great great grandads) You are chattel property of the crown as are all the US CITIZENS like it or not. Its just the way it is. The way I see it is that the deal with the church was swept into the hush hush but the agreement still exists. There is a good deal of unrest in the UK right now over similar issues we have here. The problem with agreements and contracts is that there are only so many ways they can be broken. declaring another religion is NOT one of them. They can either 1) one party agrees to concede (and I have seen no evidence that has occurred by either party, therefore all of englands holdings, titles, and interests, at least to some extent belong to the church or shall I say the church has an interest in them, just like england has the same in and against the US.. 2) the king in the treaty of paris never conceded commerce as dictated in article 3 that he shall be paid a percentage of the gold silver etc extracted from the US. That and in the final treaty agreement the US has to PAY the KINGS debt obligations on top of our own! The US was taken from the indians byforce from the peaceful indians by the brits through conquest just as iraq and Afghanistan have been. The king GRANTED the founders fishing rights on the KING'S waters and reserved the use of the missisippi as well for england and successors. No one needs to be a rocket scientist or know squat about history or law to know that a supposed UNSEATED KING HAS THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT any damn thing! You see th US is nothing more than business commercial business adventure and a brit colony and I would be falling down shocked if you brints have not known this all along. Hell we even have districts, counties and shire riefs and attorneys registered as foreign agents to the states for the turning over of property to the crown and these dumb asses over here are none the wiser in many cases. We have replaced the court of common pleas, the exchecher, and parlimentary courts with our own mirror of equity, civil, and admiralty, and like you now administrativ, (parlimentary) civil (corporate policy), courts. (a fucking abortion of law) People here are to busy voting for new ceos to stick them with a red white and blue dick at every corner. So you show me where the US won the revolution? They didnt. The founders were esquires of the crown. Now that this is known and rapidly becoming general public knowledge and that people here really do not own the land they thought they did and were lied too combined with the greater more imposing efforts of your government to contain the situation, well what do you think the solutions are? The only way you can break a contract in the case of your king and the US which was a business adventure of the king, at this late point in time, if no concession can be made is to do to the king what the king did to the indians here here and take your country by force if he does not concede and rewrite the treaty. The people here are unhappy very unhappy and many want to start shooting first and ask question later which seems to me they are at the brink of war unhappy. Just look at the continually soaring private gun sales and ammo! But then they were very skillfully lied too I cant blame them but I still advocate taking ti to the courts first but of course that will have no effect un the underlying problem. That is just the way law is structured, either by agreement or conquest.

juliaoceania -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 12:31:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cuckyman Bud you can run that socialist crap all day....and flap your arms...and shit the bed, but that is not going to stop the tide that will wash your loser dems out to sea come November.... you are standing in the way of a political stampede and you and the ilk you represent are about to become roadkill..... Look, if you don't like this country...do everyone a big fucking favor....AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE....go spread your bloviations over in Europe or South America, maybe someone there might buy your line of shit..... but not here....not now, not ever... "When you are running down my country hoss, you are walking on the fighting side of me..." Meryl Haggard highly suggest you commit those words to memory....might just save you some physical distress to say the least.... Merle Haggard is a tea bagger? quote: and so when I heard that Haggard had written a song endorsing Hillary Clinton for President, which you can hear him sing on TIME.com, I was more than curious about the motivation for his apparent left turn. And Merle let me know that he was more than happy to talk politics, given that he has a new album, The Bluegrass Sessions, which seems a political and musical return to his family's Okie and New Deal Democratic roots. He picked me up at the Holiday Inn in Redding, Calif., a wizened guy in a black T shirt and jeans driving a politically incorrect white Hummer. "Believe it or not, this is a pretty nice little town," he said as we headed out to his ranch, past a bleak, unending landscape of big-box stores that brought to mind a recent Haggard lyric: "Everything Wal-Mart all the time, no more mom and pop five and dimes... What happened, where did America go?" A vague populist annoyance with big stores and big shots is one of the themes that have led Haggard to "change labels," as he told me with a laugh. "The folks don't have a say-so anymore. They're being force-fed—music, yeah, but every other darn thing too. I supported George W. I'm not exactly a liberal. But I know how that Texas thing works, who those oil folks are and what they wanted in Iraq... I'm a born-again Christian too, but the longer I live, the more afraid I get of some of these religious groups that have so much influence on the Republicans and want to tell us how to live our lives." Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670184,00.html#ixzz0grfQdXRw Hardly

NorthernGent -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 1:20:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne The way I see it is that the deal with the church was swept into the hush hush but the agreement still exists. There is a good deal of unrest in the UK right now over similar issues we have here. What I take from this board is that you're very much like the French....idealists.

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 2:15:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne The way I see it is that the deal with the church was swept into the hush hush but the agreement still exists. There is a good deal of unrest in the UK right now over similar issues we have here. What I take from this board is that you're very much like the French....idealists. I am taking note however that you are not disagreeing with my position. I dont know about any idealists, I just know that in order for anything to be lawful it needs a paper trail, no paper trail no law and the idea that america is anything but a brit colony there is simply no verification in law for that. Unless you know of some treaty in existence but I nor anyone I know does. So if america gets really pissed over this what do you think the UK will do? Go up against a country as large as the US or concede then completely wipe the us out financially?? Do you think russia or china would protect the UK if that happened?

Thadius -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 2:16:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen It is hilarious watching the right wingers freak out when the truth is told. As further proof that the tea parties don't really believe what they claim I invite everyone to investigate the "Send Christmas cards to the ACLU" plan that was intended to negatively affect the ACLUI's operations. Now why would a grass roots movement that is all about restoring the US to constitutional governance what to disrupot the activities of an organization that has defended the Constitution for 90 years? Except for those parts of the Constitution that they don't agree with... like the 2nd Amendment. They say as much in their own policies... or for parties that they disagree with like Pro Life protesters, or even their own board members speaking out. Other than that, yep the ACLU is for protecting the constitutional rights or groups like NAMBLA, folks that favor child porn, etc... They are simply an organization that defends the Constitution. How many lawsuits has the ACLU threatened to file or filed against various towns, counties, and other municipalities over Christmas related things? How much do you think their actions have negatively affected those organizations operations? I think the answer to your question is quite obvious, whoever was behind the Christmas card plan was exercising their 1st Amendment rights and wishing the ACLU a Merry Christmas. You know the whole turn the other cheek, and love your neighbor kind of thing.[8\|] Pretty funny if you ask me.

DomKen -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 3:07:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen It is hilarious watching the right wingers freak out when the truth is told. As further proof that the tea parties don't really believe what they claim I invite everyone to investigate the "Send Christmas cards to the ACLU" plan that was intended to negatively affect the ACLUI's operations. Now why would a grass roots movement that is all about restoring the US to constitutional governance what to disrupot the activities of an organization that has defended the Constitution for 90 years? Except for those parts of the Constitution that they don't agree with... like the 2nd Amendment. They say as much in their own policies... or for parties that they disagree with like Pro Life protesters, or even their own board members speaking out. Other than that, yep the ACLU is for protecting the constitutional rights or groups like NAMBLA, folks that favor child porn, etc... They are simply an organization that defends the Constitution. How many lawsuits has the ACLU threatened to file or filed against various towns, counties, and other municipalities over Christmas related things? How much do you think their actions have negatively affected those organizations operations? I think the answer to your question is quite obvious, whoever was behind the Christmas card plan was exercising their 1st Amendment rights and wishing the ACLU a Merry Christmas. You know the whole turn the other cheek, and love your neighbor kind of thing.[8\|] Pretty funny if you ask me. You're so full of shit it's almost funny. The ACLU threatens lawsuits over religious displays because they are unconstitutional unless they fall within very strict guidelines. As a non christian I am quite happy that less of my tax money is being misused to provide support for christians. As to the supposed partisan pattern at the ACLU, you specifically mention not defending anti abortion activists. You lied. http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/iowa-civil-liberties-union-defends-right-students-wear-anti-abortion-t-shirts http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-sues-protect-free-speech-rights-anti-abortion-church-group-indiana http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wyso/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1610224/WYSO.Local.News/ACLU.Defends.Anti-Abortion.Dispute

rulemylife -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 3:27:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius Except for those parts of the Constitution that they don't agree with... like the 2nd Amendment. ACLU Defends 2nd Amendment ACLU files suit over gun rights A New Orleans man is suing the city and its district attorney for refusing to give back a gun that police seized when he was arrested on drug and firearms charges. The American Civil Liberties Union on Thursday filed the federal suit on behalf of Errol Houston Jr., who was arrested last year following a traffic stop. The suit says the district attorney's office declined to prosecute Houston but has refused to return his .40 caliber firearm. Houston claims Orleans Parish District Attorney Leon Cannizzaro has instituted a policy that firearms seized during arrests will not be returned to their owners. The ACLU says that policy violates Houston's constitutional rights. Cannizzaro says his office decides on a "case by case basis'' whether to return confiscated guns. quote: They say as much in their own policies... or for parties that they disagree with like Pro Life protesters, or even their own board members speaking out. ACLU-IA Defends Right of Students to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirts Iowa Civil Liberties Union Defends Right of Students DES MOINES -- The Iowa Civil Liberties Union today blasted school officials for threatening to punish two teenage girls who wore anti-abortion T-shirts to school. The group also offered to assist the students in their quest to continue wearing the shirts at school. "These students had their free speech rights violated, and the ICLU stands ready to defend them," said Ben Stone, Executive Director of the ICLU. "This appears to be a clear case of government abuse of power, and it must be stopped." quote: Other than that, yep the ACLU is for protecting the constitutional rights or groups like NAMBLA, folks that favor child porn, etc... They are simply an organization that defends the Constitution. Why did the ACLU represent NAMBLA? The ACLU of Massachusetts' represented members of NAMBLA because, while the ACLU does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children, we do advocate robust freedom of speech. This lawsuit struck at the heart of the First Amendment. It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something people find reasonable. The defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people reject. quote: How many lawsuits has the ACLU threatened to file or filed against various towns, counties, and other municipalities over Christmas related things? How much do you think their actions have negatively affected those organizations operations? Learn more about the ACLU and Christmas. In recent years, the cry that there is a "war on Christmas" has become a recurring theme of several commentators. One who happily describes himself as a "culture warrior," Bill O'Reilly, imagines that there are forces at work trying to end the public celebration of Christmas and even any mention of the holiday. Rush Limbaugh claimed back in 2005 that public officials were "trying to get Christmas, you know, out of the public consciousness" (according to a Media Matters transcript). ......John Gibson, who "pals around" with domestic culture warrior O'Reilly, boldly declares in his book, The War on Christmas, that some are trying to ban "normal and traditional Christmas representations such as Christmas trees, Santa Claus, treetop stars, wreaths, the singing of and listening to Christmas carols or Christmas instrumental music, attending a performance of Dickens' A Christmas Carol... .....the constitutional right of people to worship, preach, sing carols, and celebrate Christmas in their churches and with their families and friends — whether in public or in private — is well-protected. The ACLU itself has brought several cases on behalf of people who want to celebrate Christmas.6 When the smoke of battle clears, Christmas is completely safe. The real question is not whether people can celebrate Christmas (they most certainly can), but whether the government should be promoting religious beliefs and practices (it most certainly shouldn't).

europeantrainer -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 3:51:22 PM)
Oh boy too many SHEEPLE,just a few real people,who understand the new world order treason

Politesub53 -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 4:26:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne The way I see it is that the deal with the church was swept into the hush hush but the agreement still exists. There is a good deal of unrest in the UK right now over similar issues we have here. What I take from this board is that you're very much like the French....idealists. I am taking note however that you are not disagreeing with my position. I dont know about any idealists, I just know that in order for anything to be lawful it needs a paper trail, no paper trail no law and the idea that america is anything but a brit colony there is simply no verification in law for that. Unless you know of some treaty in existence but I nor anyone I know does. So if america gets really pissed over this what do you think the UK will do? Go up against a country as large as the US or concede then completely wipe the us out financially?? Do you think russia or china would protect the UK if that happened? What do you mean no paper trail, have you never heard of the Treaty of Paris ? Err, that the treaty that you dont know about. You can thank me for the heads up later. [8\|]

cloudboy -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 4:56:00 PM)
Check out what Bill Maher said.

jlf1961 -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 5:25:44 PM)
I am sorta white (anglo, saxon, welsh, apache, cherokee, dutch, and french) christian, and a left wing nationalist, so this movement does not represent me, nor does it address the fact that I feel that it was unconstitutional to deny me the right to smoke where and when I please, including an ICU room at the local hospital.

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 5:48:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 What do you mean no paper trail, have you never heard of the Treaty of Paris ? Err, that the treaty that you dont know about. You can thank me for the heads up later. [8\|] \ thanks so much for reminding me of what I already said. Now do you have any information that shows we are not a brit colony and that we really won the revolutionary war? The treaty of paris only proves we did not win the war. might want to actually read it sometime/

slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:03:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 What do you mean no paper trail, have you never heard of the Treaty of Paris ? Err, that the treaty that you dont know about. You can thank me for the heads up later. [8\|] \ thanks so much for reminding me of what I already said. Now do you have any information that shows we are not a brit colony and that we really won the revolutionary war? The treaty of paris only proves we did not win the war. might want to actually read it sometime/ Well thats it...the Gold medal for silliest statements goes to Real One...in an interesting turn of events all countries disavow him ....the USA will not even concede he actually exists!

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:11:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 What do you mean no paper trail, have you never heard of the Treaty of Paris ? Err, that the treaty that you dont know about. You can thank me for the heads up later. [8\|] \ thanks so much for reminding me of what I already said. Now do you have any information that shows we are not a brit colony and that we really won the revolutionary war? The treaty of paris only proves we did not win the war. might want to actually read it sometime/ Well thats it...the Gold medal for silliest statements goes to Real One...in an interesting turn of events all countries disavow him ....the USA will not even concede he actually exists! you might want to study 5 minutes of law before you give yourself a hernia. Hell I will give you a reall good laugh! The queen modified the US social security and its a matter of parlimentary record. like shit maybe 5+ years ago? Been a while since I thought about that.

slvemike4u -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:19:47 PM)
Links to that ridiculous statement? p.s.The inclusion of the word "ridiculous" seems superfluous when dealing with his posts

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:25:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Links to that ridiculous statement? p.s.The inclusion of the word "ridiculous" seems superfluous when dealing with his posts I dont have the first part scanned in and I only have the newspaper version of the 2nd part; [image]local://upfiles/59055/1B3542D5BDA04647A19DCE8E3956AA51.jpg[/image]

Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:28:03 PM)
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Real0ne -> RE: Tea Partiers and the United States of White Christian America (2/28/2010 6:29:57 PM)
like I said this is the newspaper version Take note of the king GRANTING, losers ALWAYS do the granting! Just ask Japan and germany [image]local://upfiles/59055/FBC9CCA6295B4558AD05297B9FCFBFDE.jpg[/image]

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