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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/14/2004 7:57:15 AM   
ShrewWhisperer


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Status: offline 		a lot of the problem, the taboo of money subs, why they can be used for 'wifely' tasks is just that, money starts smacking of prostitution, where household chores are just wife-stuff...now I agree the value of it all probably amounts the same way, but people get funny about what is logical.

a woman who is married to a rich man, enough to afford a cook & maid, if you called her a whore, she'd get offended, but what the hell else is she doing for the money but fucking her husband? *wait let me find a barricade to duck behind before the shells start coming in* now you say this to her and she'll snatch you bald headed, you say it to the husband and he'll sock you one for calling his wife a whore.

but what is the difference?

I think it has to do with civilization, when the salloon-girls got houses and rich husbands, suddenly brothels became illegal, now any logical person would say it was about killing the competiion, but it was dressed up in properness and religous based fallacies.

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/14/2004 9:50:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		The big problem on the matter, especially with sites like this is these so-called dominas that are overnight moneydommes. Take someones random picture off a website, toss up a profile, start demaning money and hopeless sub #132 comes along and thinks that someone might actually like him for the measly price of only $199. If you're within the confines of an actual relationship, then I understand it moreso...but for online relations...just like most things. It's a joke...it's a scam...it's a manipulation. Plain and simple. I feel the same way towards ProDom/mes so hey take with it what you will.

I often times handle the finances of a sub, but I don't take their money. I don't need it, I do quite well for myself as is. Which is why I'm normally the "all expenses provided" type...though my cult house data entry project keeps sounding more and more reasonable. haha

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/16/2004 10:54:45 PM   
knees2you


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Status: offline 		Ok, here's something to think about~

A Mistress has a Female slave and 2 Male slaves. Now She is looking
for a Financial Slave to help Her out with a Medical condition.

I guess I'm to old fashion, but it sounds like, She doesn't want to work
{get a job} and that is Her right, but come~on She has three Slaves
already~~

Hypnosis works also~ Well if the Slave is unsuspecting, and if He's willing to give Her money, then He probablly is,~ unsuspecting~~

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/17/2004 8:15:58 AM   
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quote:

Hypnosis works also~ Well if the Slave is unsuspecting, and if He's willing to give Her money, then He probablly is,~ unsuspecting~~


Why not hypnotize the Fem dom into wanting to get off her ass and work for a living?

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/17/2004 7:40:11 PM   
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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/17/2004 9:42:15 PM   
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If there are men (and even some women) who like being dominated in this way, and it is consensual, how is this any different than any other fetish?


Addressing the original poster, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the fetish of financial domination. If some woman self identifies as a "money domme" and some guy out there doesn't know what it means. . .well. . .we can't all walk around holding people's hands. I think people get the words "sub/slave" and "naive, dumb, unsuspecting, et al" confused. I'll work under the premise that a submissive person/slave has just as much common sense out there as anyone else. For consenting adults that chose to do it. . .more power to them. If a "unsuspecting" boy happens to fork over a few hundred dollars to the first yahoo profile of a beautiful, buxom, woman who claims she is a Dominant. . .he deserves to get taken. He wasn't looking for a D/s relationship.

Let's get real here. . .chances are. . .all this financial domination goes on only online. I don't go to play parties or functions and hear about money dommes or money slaves being around. It's a purely online phenomenon. With that being said, they are ALL looking for some kind of fantasy. And they pay for it. Period. There is not a "lifestyle" online. It's just ONLINE!!! And obviously there is a "market" for it. . .otherwise it wouldn't be worth the money domme's time to peddle her wares. Someone out there wants it. It might not be you. . .but SOMEONE wants it.

A "financial fetish" is just as valid as a foot fetish, pain fetish, xdressing fetish, ad infinitum. Whatever attributes you want to ascribe on a financial fetish, you can probably ascribe on the others as well. It isn't for everyone. . .and that is fine. Move on. I can't believe that people will get their panties in a wad over it. . .as if they are taking THEIR money. *laughs* Will there next be a crusade for those "helpless, unsuspecting" subs that are ties and cuffed up and being caned and flogged?

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 6:23:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jules,

First of all, I don't think you post your opinion here quite often enough ;) You call it like it is and I for one respect that a whole lot about you. You are so dead on with your remarks.

Perhaps you'll have a little more luck then I did about 2 dozen posts back that making people realise that if you are kinky and you discriminate against one fetish (just cos it’s not your thang!) is just being hypocritical. A fetish is a fetish is a fetish… is a fetish!

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Will there next be a crusade for those "helpless, unsuspecting" subs that are ties and cuffed up and being caned and flogged?


No doubt! And when I have so poor unsuspecting boy do my housework for me and all he gets for it is a swat on the ass and sent home, am I breaking some labour law here? Should I have ensured he’s cum in order to make everything even-steven? *Insert dramatic eye roll here*. Seriously.

- LA

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 7:18:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		My main issue with it, after having explored it with the mindset more of a TPE and along the lines of what afmvdp said about managing, isn't so much the fetish itself, but the people that are presenting themselves as experienced dominants, when they are anything but.

I agree that we can't hold people's hands, but I also feel that people need to realize the real issues aren't so much from the money aspect, but from the BDSM aspect that they try to cultivate.

I've seen them do and try to pull some really fucked up shit. I've seen more than a few demand dangerous stunts on cam, from newbies that were SO green, that they simply hadn't found the mainstream BDSM sites with all the common sense warnings. And granted I had enough common sense to know to learn about what I was about to try, when I was new, but so many don't seem to think that way.

For me, it's people twisting a lifestyle I really care about and love into something unhealthy for financial gain that I guess gets under my skin. Maybe I shouldn't care that much. Maybe that means, well, whatever negative thing you want to hang there lol. But it seems to me that if the BDSM communities do NOT stand up and say That is NOT what BDSM is about, and no sane (not sure if that's the best word but what the hell) dominant in their RIGHT mind that knew what the fuck they were doing would EVER demand a submissive do that, then who *is* going to?

It's not right to tell someone that if they do not pay you they aren't submissive or a good submissive. Or that they have to pay to be seen as an actual submissive. If they worded it as You must pay before I'll notice you - fine whatever, I think its shallow and empty - but it's honest and the TRUTH for that person.

It is NOT true however that one HAS to pay to be a submissive or a good submissive. You can't purchase submissiveness. I view that as teaching a newbie something so wrong that will make their own jounrey so much more difficult if there is no one counteracting that spewage. There are many statements like that which are skewed only to pressure, coerce, and snake a few bucks out of a guy.

And the other fact is, that for every asshole out there targeting female submissives there are THOUSANDS of sites and resources that are gearing towards education, how to be safe, encouraging folks to think, take their time, learn, how to filter out possible predators. There are support groups, support sites. For just about every fetish out there there's some site saying, hey check it out, watch out for this.

This is the only fetish and power dynamic where I see almost all support forums for the submissives to be nonexistant. Where all the sites that are geared towards or for that fetish, are about NOT thinking, NOT looking for red flags or danger signs, advocating stupidity and rushing into things. They will do really nasty things as well, like say dont worry its just online just a fantasy and then start to threaten when the guy starts going hmmm yanno not for me, and they call THAT domination. That's what my issue is.

If you reversed the genders and there were a thousand a day new male doms saying the same shit to newbie female subs, you can bet yer ass there'd be a billion sites and people saying the same exact shit that it isnt what BDSM is - so what surprises me is the fact that because the submissives are male, folks really seem less likely to voice an objection over it - and THAT sorta puzzles me. I'm not really sure why female submissives are soooooooooooooooooooooo warned about male dom predators and why no one seems to feel that male submissives need no such guidance, education, or information. For male dom predator types the goal tends to be sex and/or being really unsafe sadistic practices to show how evil and hardcore they are. For female moneydomme types the goals are money and/or really unsafe sadistic practices to show how evil and hardcore they are.

I have a hard time seeing the difference from an essence point of view. I'm a switch. I sat in that realm seeing what it was about - exploring it as I thought it had a valid usage in a long term relationship as part of a TPE, and I was curious to meet other dominants that were interested in that and to see what I could learn about it, and if it was something I'd be interested in. What I saw was so horrid that my submissive side was sickened to the core.

You see when I was exploring my submissive side, there were hundreds of people out there I came in contact with - all helpful, supportive, if I ran across something not kosher - it was made known to me that wasn't right if it seemed that I might not know. The moneydomme environment is simply appalling. The focus is cash and gifts in general - it is rarely about BDSM - in fact MOST of them know squat about BDSM at all that I found, many of them wound up being minors, and the sheer negativity, bitterness, and abusiveness that they call being dominant is frankly, beyond my ability to describe. I came away from it feeling VERY tarnished and soiled - I only hung there as long as I did because it seemed wrong to leave without there being a voice of sanity and compassion amongst all that horrid crap.

And, it's not just online anymore. They've realized that they get more milage, validity, and believablity of they do real time, so guess what? They are now more and more vying for that. Which just scares me. "I just got a singletail, and I need a target body to learn how to use this - which bitch will be my whipping boy?" And scarily enough - 3 local boys who were having the normal newbie tendancy to want to run and play that second so they can feel they are really becoming a real submissive (whatever THAT is) were arranging to do exactly that. I was the ONLY person out of 40 that spoke up about it being a bad idea - everyone else was saying what an extraordinary great idea that was - mob mentality at its worst. Yes yes yes go prove you are really submissive then maybe we'll talk to you. ::shudder::

I mean sure I suppose that would teach them a lesson (maybe cost them an eye, broken jaw, or whatever) but would any of us seeing that NOT say something - anything? Or was I being too protective and watch-doggie?

My heart said speak up - so I did. I'm okay with that. I'm a tad curious what others would think of that kind of a situation if they found themselves in it.

So yanno MY issue is the dangerous shit these chicks will gleefully put others in while posing as experienced dominants and having a bunch of folks seemingly validate their experience and knowledge - when they know NOTHING at all - all in order to gain pictures to prove how evil, hardcore and real they are in order to convince more dudes that they know what they are doing when they don't so the guys will pay them. And having NO thought or concern for the aftereffects on the person they are doing it to - or how it might actually be so bad that they decide BDSM isn't at all what they need and for them to turn away and lock away a piece of themselves that had they gotten a more compassionate and reality based experience, would have opened up the door for them to finally embrace who they really are and what really makes them happy. Or even that they might possibly end up in a emergency room or dead.

It kills me to think someone repressing a piece of something they need deeply or causing them to turn away for maybe years that they could be delving into this just because someone didn't want to fucking get a job or learn what the fuck they were doing.

So yanno, that's *my* beef. It's not really about the fetish as much as it is about folks abusing it and twisting BDSM just to be lazy and often hurting others in the process.

Maybe I care too much, I dunno.

~ShadeDiva

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 8:03:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		In theory, and especially, if W/we embrace the premise that anything within the realm of what is considered safe, sane and consensual in the world of BDSM and D/s, is acceptable behavior, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what many call, "financial dominantion." However, and in my own personal opinion, financial domination is exclusionary, because it only targets those with deep pockets, vast array of credit cards, and an impressive stock portfolio.

Being somewhat of an idealist, i cannot wrap my belief system around the open and blatent "advertisment" by some Dominatrices who are simply looking for those with money as a basis for a relationship. Those individuals might as well just say outloud that they are professionals who expect to be paid for their services.

As i have said many times before, i have no problem with any Woman who wishes to practice domination as a profession, but let's be honest here, and admit that it is a business practice, rather than an enticement for a personal relationship!

When i see posts by dominant Females on Yahoo Groups, for instance, inviting prospective slaves to join Her new mailing list devoted to "financial slavery," i simply click the delete button and go right on to the next message.

Were i a wealthy person, either by virtue of inheretance, or through winning a vast amount of money through a lottery or contest, i would certainly NOT wish to advertise my good fortune, thereby inviting the kind of money-grubbing individuals who suddenly come out of the woodwork, only to announce that they are long, lost relatives of mine, and would i care to share some of my good fortune with them? Hell no!

And although i am not averse to contributing to charities that provide honest service to the community, and especially to those less fortunate than U/us, i would prefer to keep a VERY low profile where financial wealth is concerned, at least until such time as i become accepted for myself, rather than because of my financial status.

i sincerely beieve that myself and O/others do not wish to be judged simply by virtue of what they own, but who they are, and what they stand for.

With sincerity,

-philip (who is now stepping carefully off of his soap box)

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 8:19:47 AM   
Madame


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Status: offline 		Goodness! I married smart - and took over the finances - cause I do them better not because of any power exchange..

Still I have my gents to play with - and am too dang old to be picking up the lunch check. I do not take boys that can't afford a few niceties - dinner out - a bunch of spring flowers- a day at the spa. For me it's a 2 way street. Boys in Traning with me are always gifted with something to remember a first meeting- a sented candle - a pair of pretty panties - a wooden spoon -all inexpensive but purchased with just them in mind.

It's a shame we have as a society have seem to forgotten that it's the thought that counts. But if there's some knucklehead out there really NEEDS to give me their hard earned money - drop me a line. I could use a new roof ;)

Madame

PS When my subhub goes off to Serve another he's the one that generally pays - guess it all evens out.

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 3:10:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame

Goodness! I married smart - and took over the finances - cause I do them better not because of any power exchange..

Still I have my gents to play with - and am too dang old to be picking up the lunch check. I do not take boys that can't afford a few niceties - dinner out - a bunch of spring flowers- a day at the spa. For me it's a 2 way street. Boys in Traning with me are always gifted with something to remember a first meeting- a sented candle - a pair of pretty panties - a wooden spoon -all inexpensive but purchased with just them in mind.

It's a shame we have as a society have seem to forgotten that it's the thought that counts. But if there's some knucklehead out there really NEEDS to give me their hard earned money - drop me a line. I could use a new roof ;)

Madame

PS When my subhub goes off to Serve another he's the one that generally pays - guess it all evens out.


Madame,

i do not wish to be miscontrued, and certainly know the difference between gifts given freely and with love, rather than as a requirement for a possible relationship with a Dominatrice.

In my experience, and in my earlier days, i have payed for domination from professionals. Once and a while, one comes along who is caring and concerned-enough about me, my well-being, and whether the session was satisfying. In short, W/we connect, and possibly on several levels. One Dominatrice in particular caught my interest. And even though i knew for the outset that She was married, and that there was no possiblily for romance with Her, i still went shopping and bought Her something rather expensive and very special. We still remain friends to this day.

i have other friends who also happen to be Dominatrices. One in particular is vision-impared, so i try to help Her out whenever possible. The two friends i have mentioned here are wonderful examples of generosity and compassion, and i have no trouble helping them out whenever they are in need.

Also, in the vanilla world, or even when courting a Femmedomme, i always attempt to pick up the check, unless She of the midset of an independent Woman. In this case, i do not argue, but still try to always remain the consummate gentleman.

Any of my friends will attest to my generosity, whether it be a kinky or vanilla friend. And were i lucky-enough to be in a Femmedomme/submissive relationship, i would always defer to my Dominatrix/Owner in terms of the control of mutual finances; as well as to always honor Her with gifts, whether large or small, just to express my appreciation and love for Her.

However, i still continue to maintain that Dommes who require any form of tribute, whether it be money or expensive gifts before even before they talk with a prospective slave, are certainly not the kind of person i wish to be associated with.

Most respectfully,

slave philip




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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/18/2004 3:24:29 PM   
GoddessJules


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Status: offline 		Hallo Angelica!

Thanks for the generous accolades. I do follow the boards, but I'm not often inspired to write because most of the time it seems like I'll just be feeding into people's "rhetoric" versus sound, well formed arguments/comments.

I do enjoy your threads, as well as those of a few others (srfrgrl, and the woman with the picture of feathers in someone's back. . .sorry I forgot her name) in particular. I always get a chuckle or find myself nodding in agreement.

I'll address some of the posts I've seen since I last posted (and by no means is this addressed to anyone in particular.)

This thread took a big detour when people quit addressing the original question : "What's so wrong with financial fetishes?" to making it "Financial fetishes are only for people who are the devil's spawn."

I agree that people will not "agree" with some fetishes. Ones that come to mind are infantilism, scat, and financial. I may not care for any or all of the above. . .or other fetishes, but I won't sit around trying to debunk them or coming up with "rational" reasons as to why those that partake in them are fucked up.

Another thing that people are "debating" about (which I think really has nothing to do with this thread per se. . .and probably has its own thread somewhere else anyways) is that almost any fetish can turn into abuse or something other than what the fetish implies. Many here are talking about women demanding money for whatever reason. . .or that these women are telling boys that "they aren't real subs if you don't holla and give me a dolla." That has a name of its own. It's called "can shaking." It happens in BDSM and in many other places. Go to a board dedicated to old folks. . .someone will be shaking their can trying to make money off of them. Go to an arena for computer programmers. . .someone will be shaking their can trying to make money off of them. If people can imagine ways to bilk people out of money. . .there will be can shakers. It has absolutely nothing to do with BDSM or fetish.

That being said, if we are talking about women who genuinely enjoy having control over a man (up to and including his finances) and a man who enjoys giving up control (up to and including his finances). . .then we are talking about the fetish that started off this thread. I think that it goes without saying that these two individuals will be consenting rational adults. Once you start going into situations that include "fat housewife sitting at home in rollers shaking her can to feed her kids". . .you aren't talking about the fetish.

As with any other fetish, there will be people who gives everyone else a bad name. If we all decide to base our judgement on a particular fetish based on a few bad apples, then all of us kinky people are fucked.

I hope everyone enjoys their weekend,
cheers!

~Jules~

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 4:43:54 AM   
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If there is a real time relationship the Dom/me has every write to expect a portion of subs earnings.


I can see the shape of everything said so far, but I disagree with this statement as it stands. It's too loose. It makes it sound like a tithe is expected, as if the Dominant were a church. I don't feel that any Dominant has an intrinsic right to any earnings of the sub, and vice versa.

Now, taking it back to financial domination and all its tangles, yes, there's a basis there, because its financial domination. I can't profess a belief that this extends through all real-time relationships in D/s. If I'm with a Dominant, they have every right to expect my loyalty, my affection, my obedience, et cetera ad nauseum, but nowhere in there does my paycheck enter into the matter. A live-in situation where the rent/utilities/grocery bills, etc are covered by one or both aside, of course. Even then, in the case of the sub supporting the Dominant completely, that's a sub's free and happy choice, not something automatically expected, in my eyes.

Meh. All just a long way of saying that there's no universal truth when it comes to money and bdsm, with the exception being "It's a pretty damned expensive lifestlye, at times, so make for yourself what you can and loot the rest from the bodies of your enemies."

Wait, no, that's my philosophy on practical battle financing. Damned confusing mix, sometimes.

*grins*

My two cents worth. Untithed.

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 5:12:46 AM   
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Is it a fetish really?

In my mind a fetish is an object or person that has to be present for
a person to complete their sexual desires.
To call money grubbing a fetish, just adds to the watering down of lifestyle.

I have yet to meet a person that can't get their nut -
if they aren't stupidly giving their hard earned money
over to some lazy user.

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 7:15:59 AM   
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In my mind a fetish is an object or person that has to be present for
a person to complete their sexual desires.


So let me get this right. . .in order to partake in a fetish. . .the object or person HAS to be present? So for all the foot fetishists out there who go to foot sites. . .they don't really have a foot fetish. . .they just happen to want to evaluate the differences in various feet. . .makes a lot of sense. I think I'm finally starting to wrap my head around all this fetish stuff.

~Jules~

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 7:18:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with Eden's comments that it has to do with intent.

I could very easily set up a paypal account, put a picture of some gorgeous, Evil-looking woman on my profile, and declare myself a Domme who has a financial-fetish while trolling the various chatrooms in search of prey. I don't see this as honorable nor consentual. The intent is to make lots of money by telling people that I am something that I am not. I believe that this is called "Fraud" and is punishable under the current laws of the land.

However, if someone is being honest about who they are and are consentually satisfying someone's financial fetish...hey ...more power to ya.

I don't really understand the idea behind a "financial fetish" anyway. Could it be that some people are just paying for online companionship? I guess. I don't get it, but it's possible. I mean...there are many respectable real-live ProDommes out there that would be happy to take your money for their services. Why would someone give their money to someone online?

Need more coffee...

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 7:46:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had to run up to the store yesterday for something, and when I went to the register to pay there was a male talking to the cashier about "that gold digger...". I listened for a moment as I waited patiently for "my turn". Then I just couldn't refrain any longer. I tapped him on the shoulder and waited for him to stop talking, turn around and look at me. When he did I said, "You should have come to Me, boy, because I have a much more attractive 'shovel'." and I smiled. He thought about that for a minute, then asked if I was really a "gold digger". I told him no, that he would do my digging for me, and slid my fingernail along his jawline as I paid for my purchase and walked away.

I read about this topic on another thread, and I'll read this one also. I just had this experience and thought I'd share it. This seemed like a good place to do that.

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 9:53:46 AM   
GoddessJules


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Status: offline 		Beckett,

EXCELLENT!!!! That made me kinda hot. . .which of course it * shouldn't* have because financial fetishes don't exist according to some

~Jules~

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 6:20:40 PM   
LadyAngelika


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I don't really understand the idea behind a "financial fetish" anyway.


You might want to check out one man's point of view about 30 posts back.

Personally, I don't understand a great deal of fetishes but it really isn't my desire to judge.

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ORIGINAL: Madame
Is it a fetish really?

In my mind a fetish is an object or person that has to be present for
a person to complete their sexual desires.
To call money grubbing a fetish, just adds to the watering down of lifestyle.


Actually, according to the Princeton online word search, a fetish is

excessive or irrational devotion to some activity; "made a fetish of cleanliness"

And there is more to that definition…

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ORIGINAL: Madame
I have yet to meet a person that can't get their nut -
if they aren't stupidly giving their hard earned money
over to some lazy user.


Ah the judgement!




- LA

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RE: What's so wrong with financial fetishes? - 9/20/2004 6:21:01 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

Beckett,

EXCELLENT!!!! That made me kinda hot. . .which of course it * shouldn't* have because financial fetishes don't exist according to some

~Jules~



Me too!

- LA

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