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mnottertail -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 9:08:36 AM)

couple of things, he graduated cum laude, and taught law there, no army of lawyers is needed to keep grade transcripts private, its a fuckin federal law. So, maybe he got some Affirmative Action whatever help.........hey, that's a fuckin' law too!!!

McCain didnt release his annapolis transcripts either, no howling about that. He did however admit that he was a troublemaker and gradumatated in the bottom 1% of his class.

So, the crackpots aren't buying his birth certificate, why put more paperwork out there to howl at?





rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 9:40:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

One who got control of GM & Chrysler, Freddie & Fannie (and all those lovely toxic mortgages), and now the Health Care system of the U.S.

Pretty damn good trade off, if you wanted to control the economy of the U.S., wouldn't you say?


I'm sorry, I must be misreading something here.

Did you just say Obama was a Marxist because he took over GM and Freddie & Fannie?

You do remember a guy named Bush?

Absolutely amazing how conservatives love to re-write history.

Just like how Reagan ended the Cold War.


The federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac refers to the placing into conservatorship of government sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by the U.S. Treasury in September 2008. It was one financial event among many in the ongoing subprime mortgage crisis. (Wikipedia)


And let's not forget how Bush bypassed the Democratic Congress while they were in recess to include GM's bailout in the TARP package.




subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 9:41:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

couple of things, he graduated cum laude, and taught law there, no army of lawyers is needed to keep grade transcripts private, its a fuckin federal law. So, maybe he got some Affirmative Action whatever help.........hey, that's a fuckin' law too!!!

McCain didnt release his annapolis transcripts either, no howling about that. He did however admit that he was a troublemaker and gradumatated in the bottom 1% of his class.

So, the crackpots aren't buying his birth certificate, why put more paperwork out there to howl at?


Federal law? Gonna have to prove that one to me.

GWB's transcript
John Kerry a lackluster student with grades equal to GWB
Al Gore's grades...

Cum Laude just means with distinction, nothing more, nothing less.




kittinSol -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:04:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Cum Laude just means with distinction, nothing more, nothing less.



Sooo... Read carefully here: "with distinction". What does that tell you, hmmmm?





rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:05:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Actually quite a bit will be changing in the calculations, remember one of the main reasons for this bill is to allow those that were "uninsurable" to get coverage, which equates to much more risk being added to the pool.


So, you want to base it all on financial loss or benefit.

Fine, where do these people who are uninsurable go now to get health care?

To the emergency rooms, which end up costing everyone more than if they had ongoing care for their conditions.

Let's also keep in mind the mandatory insurance requirement was put in to placate the health insurance companies who stand to benefit more from the increased sales volume than they stand to lose in risk from those deemed uninsurable.




mnottertail -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:12:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

couple of things, he graduated cum laude, and taught law there, no army of lawyers is needed to keep grade transcripts private, its a fuckin federal law. So, maybe he got some Affirmative Action whatever help.........hey, that's a fuckin' law too!!!

McCain didnt release his annapolis transcripts either, no howling about that. He did however admit that he was a troublemaker and gradumatated in the bottom 1% of his class.

So, the crackpots aren't buying his birth certificate, why put more paperwork out there to howl at?


Federal law? Gonna have to prove that one to me.

GWB's transcript
John Kerry a lackluster student with grades equal to GWB
Al Gore's grades...

Cum Laude just means with distinction, nothing more, nothing less.




I dont give a fuck about bush being a fucktard, nor kerry, nor gore. The fact that some have is neither here nor there. McCain didnt release his either is what I said. It aint like they owe it to you dumbasses.

and I dont have to prove shit to you, google the fuckin thing, I aint your slave. FERPA.





subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:16:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Sooo... Read carefully here: "with distinction". What does that tell you, hmmmm?


It tells me he was the Law Review President, even thou he never wrote a paper or an opinion for the Review.

The Chess Club President, Math Club President. Dungeon's & Dragon's Club President...et al. also got a Cum Laude, what does that tell you?




subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:17:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
I dont give a fuck about bush being a fucktard, nor kerry, nor gore. The fact that some have is neither here nor there. McCain didnt release his either is what I said. It aint like they owe it to you dumbasses.

and I dont have to prove shit to you, google the fuckin thing, I aint your slave. FERPA.


In other words I can't prove my bullshit, so I quit!




rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:20:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Cum Laude just means with distinction, nothing more, nothing less.



What is your point?

It's a distiction based on superior academic work, on grade point average.

It is not something handed out randomly.




rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:21:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Sooo... Read carefully here: "with distinction". What does that tell you, hmmmm?


It tells me he was the Law Review President, even thou he never wrote a paper or an opinion for the Review.



Which talk show dumbass told you that?

Limbaugh, Beck?




kittinSol -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:23:06 AM)

Subrob probably cums loads, and confuses it with cum laude.

Don't you wish you were part of the intellectual elite, aye, subrob :-) ?




subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:44:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Subrob probably cums loads, and confuses it with cum laude.

Don't you wish you were part of the intellectual elite, aye, subrob :-) ?


It that your best? Really? A rather lame personal attack?




subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 10:59:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Which talk show dumbass told you that?

Limbaugh, Beck?



My apologies, in all his years as president, it appears he wrote ONE article.

My bad.




mnottertail -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 11:17:07 AM)

Dont know what the fuck your link has to do with that, but thats how many more than you've wrote for the Harvard Law Review?

Should I swag it?





rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 11:27:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Which talk show dumbass told you that?

Limbaugh, Beck?



My apologies, in all his years as president, it appears he wrote ONE article.

My bad.



We were not talking about his time as Senator or  President-elect.

We were talking about his years at law school and being appointed to the law review, which does not happen unless you write papers and opinions, which you said he never did.

Substantiate what you said.




Lucylastic -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 11:30:41 AM)

Im guessing the information at politico and NYT means nothing, its all lies and non verifiable.???





rulemylife -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 11:37:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im guessing the information at politico and NYT means nothing, its all lies and non verifiable.???



Absolutely.

If Rush thinks it's false then the puppy dogs fall in behind.

It's the liberal media after all, and who can trust them?




subrob1967 -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 11:49:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

We were not talking about his time as Senator or  President-elect.

We were talking about his years at law school and being appointed to the law review, which does not happen unless you write papers and opinions, which you said he never did.

Substantiate what you said.



http://www.ontheissues.org/social/barack_obama_abortion.htm
Because you obviously missed the link in my last reply.

Google is your friend




tazzygirl -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 12:37:19 PM)

A tiny bit of work, and reading, would lead you to the reason why Obama was president of the Review.

Law review prestige
In the fall of 1989, when Obama returned to campus for his second year, students were protesting the lack of minority law school faculty. They staged sit-ins in the law library, camped outside the office of Dean Robert C. Clark, and carried signs that read "Diversity Now" and "Homogeneity Feeds Hatred." The tensions continued the following spring, reaching a high when Derrick A. Bell Jr., the first tenured black professor at the school, resigned in protest. Obama was a member of the Black Law Students Association, which organized many demonstrations that spring. But he was less confrontational than some of his peers.

"Barack was a stabilizing influence in that he would absolutely support those efforts, but was also someone who could discuss and debate them with students or faculty who had different views," said Professor Charles J. Ogletree Jr., who became Harvard's seventh tenured black professor in 1993.

In February 1990, when the time came to elect a new president of the law review, Obama was initially reluctant, said Nix Hines. The presidency seemed better suited for careerist types who were aiming for positions at top-flight law firms, Obama told her at the time. The son of a black Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, he wanted to return to his work in Chicago as a community organizer.

"I was surprised because I knew he was very popular and well-regarded and obviously had the ability to do the job," Nix Hines said.

But at a dinner at Obama's apartment, an older black student challenged Obama and other black students to compete for the job. "And I do remember Barack saying that was the moment he finally decided, 'I'm going to do this,' " said Mack.

The law review president's election is a fussy affair, part intellectual debate, part frat house ritual. Obama was one of 19 candidates. As the 61 editors not running for the job debated the merits of the candidates behind closed doors on a Sunday morning in late February, the hopefuls cooked them breakfast, lunch, and dinner . Every few hours, the editors winnowed the list further, until just after midnight, when only Obama and a 24-year-old Harvard graduate named David Goldberg remained contenders .

At about 12:30 a.m., the editors called Obama into the room, told him he had won, and broke into applause. Mack, another black editor, pulled Obama in for a hug.

"It was a hard hug, and it lasted a while," Obama told the Harvard Law Record, the school newspaper, at the time. "At that point, I realized this was not just an individual thing. . . but something much bigger."

Obama gained instant fame, was profiled glowingly in newspapers across the country, and landed a contract for a book that would become "Dreams from My Father," his best-selling memoir.

There was buzz on campus, too. Blair Underwood, the actor who played a black lawyer on L.A. Law, one of the campus' s favorite shows, came to visit Obama at the Law Review and took him out for a Chinese food banquet. People who had helped pave the way were also moved.

"You should not underestimate the significance of him being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review because that was and remains a very elite group," said Bell, now a law professor at New York University. "These were some tough folks. . . . It's almost as impressive that he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review as him being elected senator of Illinois."

As editor for two semesters, Obama spent 50 to 60 hours a week holed up in a second-floor office of Gannett House, a 19th century building overlooking Cambridge Common. He reviewed hundreds of articles, on topics ranging from corporate law to racial bias in auto pricing, and presided over long, heated debates in the cluttered first-floor lounge.

"Even though he was clearly a liberal, he didn't appear to the conservatives in the review to be taking sides in the tribal warfare," said Bradford A. Berenson, a former Bush administration lawyer who was an editor at the review.

"The politics of the Harvard Law Review were incredibly petty and incredibly vicious," Berenson said. "The editors of the review were constantly at each other's throats. And Barack tended to treat those disputes with a certain air of detachment and amusement. The feeling was almost, come on kids, can't we just behave here?"


http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/




Brain -> RE: Thanks a whole lot, Republicans. (3/26/2010 12:52:05 PM)

According to David Frum, who was recently fired by the American Enterprise Institute, the Republican party is run by Fox news. Please investigate it and find out for yourself. Maybe somebody could post a thread about it.

As far as healthcare is concerned, if you really want to get rid of waste I think you need to support a public option, which will provide competition so the insurance companies will become more efficient and provide better insurance rates. Most Americans want the public option, over 50%, probably around 60% said people need to demand reform especially from the United States Senate which is really the problem.

People like Blanche Lincoln, Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson need to be replaced. There are probably several others who may get in the way of reform and they need to be flushed out/purged as well.


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I opposed the health care bill.  The main reason is that I felt that the health care system is inherently wasteful, and that extending it without fixing it would freeze the waste in place.

Obama made it clear that he wanted the bill, but that he also wanted GOP input.  Instead of that, the GOP opposed the bill and showed no interest in working to add input to it.  They spread lies about death panels, etc., and their tactics were to yell about negative parts of the bill, even though they could and should have simply gotten those parts removed.  The Dems responded to the poisoned atmosphere by spreading counterlies.

When Brown got elected, the GOP crowed that the bill was dead.  They taunted Obama as being ineffective and laughed at him for having been unable to get anything passed with a supermajority previously.

Eventually, Obama just said, "Fuck this", and pushed it through, over GOP howling.

The idiots need to understand that the reason that the Dems got a supermajority in the first place is because the public was so fed up with Bush and the policies that he and the GOP rammed through.  Claiming to have suddenly be the only true party representing the will of the people won't wash.  You cannot set yourself up to be the party of fiscal responsibility after eight years of record deficits, even if your successor is expanding them.

Okay, guys, you can either become the party of whiners complaining that Obama is passing legislation you don't like, or else you can work with him on making the bills more acceptable to you.  Your choice.





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