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servantforuse -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 7:20:54 PM)

So why do we need so many new IRS employees ? It must just be part of the stimulus plan ?




pahunkboy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 7:22:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

So why do we need so many new IRS employees ? It must just be part of the stimulus plan ?


to count the money.    bean counters.




thornhappy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 7:53:19 PM)

I don't see where they'd need anything other than the billing codes.

You keep this stuff off Google the same way corporations do - firewalls, VPNs, etc.  You can't Google my work documents.
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If the governments paying the bills whats to keep government officials at various levels  from seeing the records. Same with the insurance companies, which already have access. They make you sign a waiver these days, if you're not paying privately, allowing your records to be shared.

I have a feeling that (judging by the way government always works) with the expanding powers of the Federal Government over our health care that those who feel they need to know will form into an ever growing circle.

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

And you didn't read what I wrote. Yes searchable BY DOCTORS AND OTHER MEDICAL STAFF. It doesn't mean out on the net it means in hospitals accessable by those who have the program and a password. Medical records cannot be put on the internet, it violates doctor/patient confidentiality. Geez Sanity I thought you had more common sense than that!






jlf1961 -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 7:56:04 PM)

I have an idea...

We put bar codes on every man, woman and child in the US and everytime someone gets a scan their complete medical, financial and political record comes up for examination.



this ought to make pahunk and realone happy




rulemylife -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:04:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If the governments paying the bills whats to keep government officials at various levels  from seeing the records. Same with the insurance companies, which already have access. They make you sign a waiver these days, if you're not paying privately, allowing your records to be shared.

I have a feeling that (judging by the way government always works) with the expanding powers of the Federal Government over our health care that those who feel they need to know will form into an ever growing circle.

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

And you didn't read what I wrote. Yes searchable BY DOCTORS AND OTHER MEDICAL STAFF. It doesn't mean out on the net it means in hospitals accessable by those who have the program and a password. Medical records cannot be put on the internet, it violates doctor/patient confidentiality. Geez Sanity I thought you had more common sense than that!




That's exactly the problem, "I have a feeling".

Too much of this health care debate has been about unsubstantiated things people believe might happen.







rulemylife -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:09:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It is very clear. The federal government via the IRS will now have access to everyones health care records.


Then show us that Servant.

As in facts, documentation, citations to prove what you are saying.

Or is this another something Rush whispered in your ear?




slvemike4u -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:19:55 PM)

"..facts,documentation.citations..." are you fucking kidding me RML...how dare you ask him for something as trivial as that stuff.What are you...a socialist?




pahunkboy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:20:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have an idea...

We put bar codes on every man, woman and child in the US and everytime someone gets a scan their complete medical, financial and political record comes up for examination.



this ought to make pahunk and realone happy



a chip.

rfid.

and if you criticize the government- they simply turn off your chip.

we are much closer to that then you realize.

I hope I am dead when it is fully in effect.




Thadius -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:32:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It is very clear. The federal government via the IRS will now have access to everyones health care records.


Then show us that Servant.

As in facts, documentation, citations to prove what you are saying.

Or is this another something Rush whispered in your ear?


I usually don't do requests but this one is a special case.

IRC sec. 6055(b)(2), as added by H.R. 3590, sec. 1502(a).

Psst... but don't worry we are all just paranoid fringe elements.




slvemike4u -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:33:56 PM)

Well some of you have good reason to be....




CountrySong -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:43:08 PM)

Let's all watch the movie Gattaca tonight to ease our minds about the goverment and our medical records.




Thadius -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 8:45:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CountrySong

Let's all watch the movie Gattaca tonight to ease our minds about the goverment and our medical records.

Funny I was just debating whether to watch that or 1984...

Good night all.




domiguy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:00:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Do you think that it is just a coinsidence that the IRS is hiring 16,500 new agents as this bill is being signed ? Part of this bill is to force everyone to buy insurance, ( or be fined ) . The federal government will now have access to your insurance records and medical records. That is what this is all about..Read Popeye's thread.." now this is scary".. He is a senior democrat and this is their mindset..


It is scary that you actually read one of popeye's threads. What is wrong with you?




slvemike4u -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:03:35 PM)

Start a thread Domi...a subject that involved would of necessity need its own thread.




domiguy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:05:59 PM)

It would be horrible if all of our medical records were available at the touch of a key....Think of the lives that might be saved!!!




rulemylife -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:18:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It is very clear. The federal government via the IRS will now have access to everyones health care records.


Then show us that Servant.

As in facts, documentation, citations to prove what you are saying.

Or is this another something Rush whispered in your ear?


I usually don't do requests but this one is a special case.

IRC sec. 6055(b)(2), as added by H.R. 3590, sec. 1502(a).

Psst... but don't worry we are all just paranoid fringe elements.


Where exactly does this say the IRS or any other government agency has access to your health records?

The only thing this does is give a mandate to the IRS to monitor and enforce the health insurance requirement.








cloudboy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:34:04 PM)


Gosh, the WSJ is right. With just a basic internet search, I just found out that Domiguy's family doctor measured his endowment at 12" .




slvemike4u -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:46:09 PM)

That's not a Doctor I would trust...he obviously has vision problems....and it would follow dosing issues.




domiguy -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 9:58:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Gosh, the WSJ is right. With just a basic internet search, I just found out that Domiguy's family doctor measured his endowment at 12" .


It's funny what a few dollars will do to embellish one's health, length and girth.


You know I spent top dollar on that doctor. How could he have left out the info about my girth?




brainiacsub -> RE: WSJ: Your Medical Records Aren't Secure (3/24/2010 10:49:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Gosh, the WSJ is right. With just a basic internet search, I just found out that Domiguy's family doctor measured his endowment at 12" .

No, dear, that was his IQ.




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