tazzygirl
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
Tazzy, there's just no point in starting over. There are four qualifications to being an nbc. Obama meets two.
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1. Mother a citizen
2. Father a citizen
3. Born in-country
4. Beholden to no foreign power at the time of his birth
Lets review these, shall we?
1) Mothers citizenship not in dispute
2) for this to be pertinent in the face of the mother's citizenship, all children who are born without paternity being proven are NOT citizens.... a bullshit defence. Not to mention a child born on US soil to parents who have citizenship elsewhere IS considered a US citizen.
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Your Date Of Birth
On/after 12-24-52 and before 11-14-86
Citizen Parent
Only 1
Residence Required Of Your Parent
USC parent with 10 yrs physical presence in U.S. prior to your birth, at least 5 yrs. after parent's age 14
Residence Required Of You
None
http://www.grasmick.com/citizen.htm#CITIZENSHIP FROM
So, for your theory on this, no child born to a mother who has not proven paternity cannot be a US citizen, just doesnt fit Obama. Simply because his father was not a US citizen isnt part of the package. The fact that he was born in Hawaii makes this whole point irrelevent.
3) This was addressed by the framers of our Constitution...
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Significantly, however, Congress, in which a number of Framers sat, provided in the Naturalization Act of 1790 that "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, . . . shall be considered as natural born citizens. . . ." This strongly suggests that the framers of the Constitution understood this phrase to refer to citizenship acquired at birth (whether or not that birth had taken place on U.S. soil).
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Natural-born_citizen
4. Beholden to no foreign power at the time of his birth
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But I thought US law didn't permit one to be a dual citizen -- that if you were (by birth or otherwise), you either had to give up the other citizenship when you came of age, or else you'd lose your US status. And that if you became a citizen of another country, you'd automatically lose your US citizenship. So what's all this talk about dual citizenship?
It indeed used to be the case in the US that you couldn't hold dual citizenship (except in certain cases if you had dual citizenship from birth or childhood, in which case some Supreme Court rulings -- Perkins v. Elg (1939), Mandoli v. Acheson (1952), and Kawakita v. U.S. (1952) -- permitted you to keep both). However, most of the laws forbidding dual citizenship were struck down by the US Supreme Court in two cases: a 1967 decision, Afroyim v. Rusk, as well as a second ruling in 1980, Vance v. Terrazas.
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Doesn't the US Constitution forbid dual citizenship?
No. The Constitution says nothing explicitly about dual citizenship at all. Indeed, in its 1967 ruling in Afroyim v. Rusk, the Supreme Court used an argument derived from the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to affirm a right to dual citizenship.
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#noway
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