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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/18/2010 9:53:08 PM   
DWCskitten


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i think the "do-me" subs/slaves give the rest of us a bad name....... i see it even in their profiles on here.....

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 4:31:48 AM   
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kitten, I actually think that the D-types that have experience and have met genuine s-types aren't going to have their opinions changed by the do-me subs. We know better ;-)

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 4:45:03 AM   
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thats typically what i deal with. i believe i have only met on sub who really meant "whatever pleases you". its really rediculous- dont say thats what you want, then catch a hissy fit when things are going how you want.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 5:47:55 AM   
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To avoid the dance I become transparent.

and it has been a while since I have been 'done'.

Luck has it I am patient.
With every step, intent.


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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 8:12:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DWCskitten

i think the "do-me" subs/slaves give the rest of us a bad name....... i see it even in their profiles on here.....

~kitten~

I actually don't agree with this.  If anything, it has the opposite effect.  It only serves to make the good ones look better.  Believe it or not, some of us pay attention and we know quality when we see it.

Make no mistake.  We know how to spot the gems in the rubble.


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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 8:18:45 AM   
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I'm learning this myself, allbeit the hard way. So much chaff to sift through, but slowly but surely I'm getting through it.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 8:25:10 AM   
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MissAsylum, I didn't mean to imply that *you* aren't self-confident, just that I've seen a lot of submissives post that they were accused of topping from the bottom any time they've expressed an opinion or made a BDSM-oriented request. I've also seen a lot of dominants (mostly men, some women) post about topping from the bottom that came across in similar ways. *Usually*, I think what is called "topping from the bottom" here is mostly poor communication, HNGs spamming people with their fantasies/demands (they aren't *in* a relationship yet, though, so they don't have a bottom to top from), incompatibility, the occasional dominant masochist, and a lot of submissives whose needs are genuinely not getting met. In your specific situation, since they are clients rather than really submissives, I'd have assumed that most pro-Dommes do take on bottoms, masochists, fantasists, and fetishists a lot. Here on the forums, that's where they tend to be directed. If they're paying, then I think they *should* get what they want, within reason, but they need to shop around and find someone who is willing to give it to them, and communicate their needs clearly.


My submissive playpartner loves needles, and they make her fly like nothing else can. She brought the subject up during aftercare, which made it clear she wasn't demanding them on the spot. I told her that I'd only had one class with them, years before, and would need to take a class or work with someone who had more experience before I would be comfortable with using them. We made plans to make that happen, and she requested that in the meantime, she be allowed to insert them herself (which she had been taught to do safely) during a scene. I was comfortable with that, and a couple of playdates later, we incorporated that into a scene.

I did play with a dominant masochist before, one of those "Ok, now hit me with the paddle - harder, a little to the right" guys, who I actually responded submissively toward. Sometimes, he let me pick what to use and so forth, sometimes he wanted to be more explicitly in charge. Since we were both switchy on the S/M and bondage spectrum, our play was very free-form and often incorporated both. I had a blast with it!

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that there is nothing wrong with bottoms, or masochists, or "do me subs" or whatever, as long as they are *polite* about it, communicate clearly and make sure that their partner is happy with what they want as well. This site does tend to be more D/s oriented, but even within a D/s or M/s dynamic, I think there can be plenty of room for people to ask for what they want. Going about it by being pushy, or posting a bunch of wank-fodder, isn't a good approach.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 8:39:49 AM   
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i completly agree with you.

i'm a bit more complex though. I'm a mix of the pro and lifestyle. I was just making reference that i have more expirence with clients.

i've taken on a few lifestyle centered subs and this thread was pointing in that direction more than with clients.

my mistake if i wasnt too clear on that.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 8:44:45 AM   
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Yeah, I was a bit confused, and thought you meant that your clients were topping from the bottom or were do-me subs.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 9:23:53 AM   
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oh hell no. lol

if that happend, i would refund them and send them on their way.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 10:41:21 AM   
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Wasn't sure if i should say anything here ... because truthfully, i could start my own thread on this topic from the submissive male viewpoint ... but i thought a few of You might appreciate knowing ...

It is not easy on genuine submissive males either. we have to cut through a lot of weeds to find gold ... too. There are simply tons of obstacles ...

But W/we all keep trying and doing the best W/we can. Just thought some of You might wish to learn this viewpoint. Because i am thinking it works ... both ways.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 11:03:52 AM   
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i'm more than aware that submissives have to weed through people to find a good fit Dom/Domme.

if you look through my posts, never had i said that ALL submissives are like that.

i know there are some good apples out there

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 2:44:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: DWCskitten

i think the "do-me" subs/slaves give the rest of us a bad name....... i see it even in their profiles on here.....

~kitten~

I actually don't agree with this.  If anything, it has the opposite effect.  It only serves to make the good ones look better.  Believe it or not, some of us pay attention and we know quality when we see it.

Make no mistake.  We know how to spot the gems in the rubble.


That's true! i stand corrected. The do-me subs/slaves actually make those of us who aren't look better. There sure seems to be a lot of those do-me's out there though.

~kitten~

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 2:46:23 PM   
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I think do me subs are fine . After all, their may be dominants who want to do me? Who is anyone to judge if all parties needs are met?

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 2:49:21 PM   
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I want to be a Shut-Up-And-Do-Me slave.

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 2:49:59 PM   
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Sex-or play-is not what defines me. I don't understand why these cock savages are so fixated on their PENIS.

There are other ways to serve a Dominant.




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As your deed is, so is your destiny.
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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 2:56:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

Sex-or play-is not what defines me. I don't understand why these cock savages are so fixated on their PENIS.

There are other ways to serve a Dominant.





Domme's I think he's brown nosing. In any event I think he deserves a cookie..


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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 3:04:39 PM   
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As TM about it.

From my own vantage pt, I've never seen anyone raise this tired issue after a third date. As you can imagine, everyone has "dating issues" -- why turn them into pejorative generalizations?

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/19/2010 3:13:41 PM   
pyroaquatic


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Because it is her desire to do so.

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As your will is, so is your deed.
As your deed is, so is your destiny.
-Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV.4.5

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RE: "Do-Me" Submissives/Slaves... - 4/21/2010 12:12:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

what is your opinion? what do you think goes on inside their minds? anybody have any encounters with one- online and/or real time?

quote:

what is your opinion? what do you think goes on inside their minds? anybody have any encounters with one- online and/or real time?


Egocentrism is (in my oppinion) never a good underlying basis for a healthy relationship whether its only sexually or both sexually and emotionally based.
Sadly its a common phenonema in these forums as well.

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