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tsuta -> Long bondage session, need tips (4/18/2010 9:45:11 PM)

A dom friend has a fantasy; he would like me to be bound and left that way for several hours, to be used whenever needed. Neither of us know much about rope bondage however. I know some *really* basic stuff, that's it...

I would like to hear suggestion for simple ways to do this; what positions would be good (He'd like me, if possible, to be with my ass up in the air, my wrists bound to my ankles), ways to make sure i'm attached to something fixed, so that i can't "escape", ways, if possible, beside rope to get me completely helpless and fixed in position... we were thinking maybe using cuffs to get the basic position, then a little bit of rope to make me as still as possible and somehow make it impossible for me to leave... but if theres no bedposts that makes it a bit hard... so how to do under-the-matress bondage in a simple and effective way?

We can't really buy stuff more complex than cuffs... and more rope if needed... i have one pair of cuff (velcro ones but hey it works and its comfortable) already and a long rope (about 15-20 feet i'd say).

Any comments, tips and suggestions would be nice! Thank you :)




Guilty1974 -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/19/2010 3:15:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tsuta

A dom friend has a fantasy; he would like me to be bound and left that way for several hours, to be used whenever needed. Neither of us know much about rope bondage however. I know some *really* basic stuff, that's it...


What do you mean by "left that way for several hours"? Even if you get to the point where you can stay in rope bondage for several hours, it's not a good idea to be left (alone) that way, no matter how cool the fantasy. Rope bondage has to be carfeully monitored, otherwise nobody might be there to help you when nerve compression starts making your fingers numb, when muscles start cramping (both good options for very long term or permanent injuries) or worse, when positional asphyxia kicks in and you start to slowly suffocate.

If you want to go in the direction of long term bondage, get a decent teacher first, get a very good hold of the real basics, get to know your body extremely well, especially the nerve pathways, and build up the time very slowly.




tsuta -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/19/2010 6:50:32 AM)

No i just mean being kept in bondage, sorry english isnt my first langage.

And like i said preferably rope would be to fix me to the bed or something but it'd be mostly cuffs on my actual body, im asking what position would be good and allow me to stay that way long, and how to achieve it with the cuffs and rope




tsuta -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/19/2010 6:56:30 AM)

Also, i've experienced several times (enough times to know how my body react to it but fine more than 20 times if you must know) more advanced, rope bondage with other people than this guy, including one that was very advanced in rope bondage. And i have been put in positions that werent necesseraly easy, and of course with rope there a time limit, at some point i know my limbs are gonna be numb ect. I know that i can stay pretty long in certain positions tho (not several hours of course, because of the rope).




tsuta -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/19/2010 7:03:01 AM)

with my experiences we already have a good idea what to do but i was just hoping for tips, suggestions... some more technical, but if people have suggestions to also make that fantasy more intense emotionally ect, i'd love to hear it too




GotSteel -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/19/2010 9:46:03 PM)

Good luck, I'm not sure the average person can stay for hours in the position you've described. My girl certainly can't so I'd advise against being left alone like that. I often have her sleep with her wrist cuffs chained to the headboard with enough slack that she can bring her elbows down to about her breasts. I'd suggest something like that as a compromise, something where you're secure enough that you won't be able to stop him from making you completely helpless when he wants to use you but loose enough that you can remain in it safely and comfortably for a longer period of time.

P.S. Here's a link for an under the mattress bondage system that seems like it could be reproduced with rope fairly easily: http://www.stockroom.com/Under-The-Bed-Restraint-System-P1962.aspx




curbisub -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/20/2010 12:40:05 AM)

Maybe get a "Prison Stockade"




nicelyvillainous -> RE: Long bondage session, need tips (4/22/2010 7:00:41 AM)

you can use the feet on the bed if you have those. you might want to try just a type of hogtie, ankle to wrist to wrist to ankle. that way you'd be in a doggy style position. or he could flip  you on your butt to use your mouth. if you have a saw and drill I'd suggest making a spreader bar for like 6 bucks. I'd suggest an 18" and a 2.5' pair. just a thickish wooden dowel, probably about 3/4" thick, drill holes in each end and put in a screw eye (if you don't drill you'll probably split the wood). dowel should be about $4 for a 4' piece, that's why you need the saw. screw eyes are like $2 for a pack of 10. I'd also suggest drilling a hole or two along the actual shaft (although that's harder, be careful because the drill will try to slip off on you, and always make sure you have something you don't mind getting holes in underneath), so you can tie an ankle to each end and the wrists in the middle. I'd suggest two hole in the middle, that way she can't open one cuff with her other hand, like she can if they're right next to each other.
oh and just a reminder, if you're going to put rope on skin don't use knots that tighten under tension. I usually suggest a french bowline (which is just a bowline with more loops to help prevent digging into the skin). butterfly knot works well too and you can tie it when you don't have an end. you can also use it to take up slack if you tied a little loose and don't want to mess with the knots you already tied. A prusik knot works really well for getting rid of slack too. prusik is a little harder to learn than the other two, but I'd suggest it.

and for under the bed bondage, the key is using the corners and not having slack in the rope. so diagonally across the bed. so starting from the bed, pick a corner, pull the rope under about a foot from the corner on one side, then back around about a foot on the other side. then across the bed to the other corner. do the same thing. tie some butterfly knots in the rope so you have attachment points to tie other rope to. then tie the rope together. I'd suggest a prusik knot. it slides when you push it but won't move under tension. for this application I'd suggest using about 3/8" to 1/2" rope, twisted holds knots a little better than braided. and you can use something a little cheaper than nylon because it won't be on skin so you don't have to worry about irritation. polypropylene is a good bet it's about half as expensive. I would get nylon though because then you can use it on skin later.
for length you'll need at least 2.5 times the length of your bed from corner to corner, I'd probably plan for 3, and try tying it before cutting it any shorter, and don't forget the butterfly knots because those take up length too. should be under 50' though. But twice that if you want two ropes, which i'd suggest, so you can have anchor points at all four corners.
oh, and if you want cuffs I'd suggest getting those orange cable cuffs from a hardware store. large for the ankles and probably a large for the wrists, maybe a medium if she's got tiny hands. between 1 and 2 bucks each. get some large split keyrings for them too (attachment points, like the d-rings on your cuffs), I think 1" was too small. 1.5" should work and I know with 2" you can attach two together. they're good entry level handcuffs although it's just possible to open them up with the hands tied. maybe a pair for the ankles and for the wrists you can use the Velcro cuffs. but they're better than lever lock cuffs (cheaper too. and thicker so they don't dig in as much)
hope that helps.




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