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Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:26:18 AM)

And yet we live.




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:43:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well this will give her something to do :)


Government: Republican Government. One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated. In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627. Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, p. 626



hell we can do this all day!  LMAO


you should consider backing up music man because all he can do is sneer.  maybe help your side out a bit :)



Heres another jaw dropper for you to contemplate:

Sponges can pick up liquid, oftentimes those fluids are toxic.



this is what separates the tards from the rest;


EITHER DIRECTLY

OR

THROUGH REPRESENTATIVES

GET IT?

NO YOU WONT

Translated to kindergarten that means if you so chose to be part of the represented crowd great go for it!  let them decide for you.  That is called consent GREAT THATS YOU!


why do the retards think I have to deal directly with holder, shulman, and geithner.  fucking DUH!




LadyEllen -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:51:44 AM)

Neither multiple personality disorder, attachment disorder nor voices in the head makes anyone "the people"

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mnottertail -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:54:00 AM)

yes the tards do not consider that or is paired with either, which causes them to be used to indicate exclusion. 

And if you indeed read these cases, cited in your definition:

In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627.

you will see that the United States does so only through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated.
 
Enten - Eller
Soren Kirkegaard

reread my post on boolean.  OR is not AND




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:55:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yeah. That's it. Good call.

Glad that's settled.


what do you expect?  You put shit up and what?  Expect that I wont review it for content and just blindly argue with you?

I mean like get a clue already if you are going to toss shit out here and you dont even know what you are putting up and your only defense of the shit you do put up is to call me a wacko well I suggest you might look in the mirror for a while and ponder your life as a "concept".



You're the one pouting, dude.

Look--you consistently weave silly crap from dubious data with at best a tenuous causal link.

well then you fly to fucking england and get the original documents with the fucking blood signatures and we will check the dna since you claim my university scans are not good enough yet you throw nothing better at me and claim yours is valid.

lets see thats called a hmm... yeh hypo crat


But in this case, you're ignoring the central premise---it makes no bloody difference what your document says.

Oh again only yours counts even though it does not bother to speak to the topic!  sure whatever!


You could have letters from John to the Pope and back again protesting undying love, cocksuckers forever, this land is your land, blood brothers, whatthefuckever. It wouldn't matter.

What does not matter is that you challenged my doc with your doc and completely missed the fucking boat and now you want to shift the goal posts and pretend the argument was about who has the bigger guns.


Because that was then. You don't get the difference between paper and power.

I do get the difference in missing the point and trying to pull the topic in a different direction and changing the issue in an attempt to run away from a stupid mistake rather than fucking man up to it.


No matter how many papers the Mongols show the Chinese, they ain't gettin' China back. Or the other half of the globe they once owned. This is now. Or take the Kurds--there's a VERY strong (and documentable) argument for a separate nation of Kurdistan drawn from Iraq, Iran, and Turkey (at least). That ain't gonna happen either.

mare flappy mouth on a topic never discussed that has nothing to do with it.


There's a Zen saying--the map is not the territory; the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon.

And you are as looney as they come--and belligerently so at that. Bring some serious new information, with a reasonable demonstrable link to something significant, and you'll get a serious audience.

Until then, you're the village idiot, and, apparently, quite proud of it to boot.

So enjoy!




and the grand finale your calling me a name we your ship sinks to the bottom.  nice try failure.


again you fail to understand that I am laughing my ass off at you <--- spelled out because you might also not understand what LMAO is.




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 9:58:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

yes the tards do not consider that or is paired with either, which causes them to be used to indicate exclusion. 

And if you indeed read these cases, cited in your definition:

In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627.

you will see that the United States does so only through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated.
 
Enten - Eller
Soren Kirkegaard



well good for the "united states" corporation.

well you will notice I stated both DUH.  LMAO

Ron putting up what I already stated and pretending that its all about your singular issue only proves you agenda pusher with complete disregard for meaning.

hey ron here is YOUR GOVERNEMNT:

Democracy. That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from a monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy. Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, p. 388




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:01:48 AM)

Read your responses. They contradict themselves in their own context, and ignore the points made in each other separate part of it.

I've made a number of points, legit, serious ones early on. You swept them aside, wrapping yourself in your medieval paper.

Wake up. No one cares--I don't mean just here, but legally, everywhere.

You think "a point" is the end of a case, ignoring multiple other and more substantial factors. Term it whatever you will, but it's not anything anyone is ever going to take seriously.





Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:04:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Read your responses. They contradict themselves in their own context, and ignore the points made in each other separate part of it.

I've made a number of points, legit, serious ones early on. You swept them aside, wrapping yourself in your medieval paper.

Wake up. No one cares--I don't mean just here, but legally, everywhere.

You think "a point" is the end of a case, ignoring multiple other and more substantial factors. Term it whatever you will, but it's not anything anyone is ever going to take seriously.





Wow that almost sounds like it was supposed to mean something. 

Unfortunately as usual you dont put of one damn thing to back your flappy jaw up.  Who woulda thunk it?

More wasted space.




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:06:18 AM)

First you'll have to read what I already have.

But addressing points that deflate your fantasies isn't your strong suit.




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:08:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

First you'll have to read what I already have.

But addressing points that deflate your fantasies isn't your strong suit.




as expected nothing to back your flappy jaw up.

another one of your failures and still more wasted space




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:11:54 AM)

And still England stays just where Henry VIII placed it.

As I told you in post 2.




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:14:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And still England stays just where Henry VIII placed it.

As I told you in post 2.


Another good throw!  You know maybe if you throw enough shit at the wall you just might get a peanut to stick sooner or later you think?

anytime you want to address the points let me know,

until then you are a failure just wasting space.




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:16:08 AM)

It must be difficult for you when reality is so retarded.




Phoenixpower -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:20:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And still England stays just where Henry VIII placed it.



Indeed, they won't move anywhere [8|]




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:22:51 AM)

typical retard response.

Never a damn thing to back what you say like ron when you do you completely miss the fucking point but at least you arent a total loss you know how to call names like a child.

you are a waste of fucking energy




mnottertail -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:24:25 AM)

LOL!!!!! Call for the straightjacket the cretin is going off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 10:27:12 AM)

While you continue to deny reality.

You tell me. What's the term?

Mary might have brought you and the Papists a glimmer of hope. But Elizabeth I dashed it, first when the dang girl died anyway, and second when Philip's Armanda ran hard into Mother Nature--another case of ideology falling before simple reality.






Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 11:46:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

While you continue to deny reality.

You tell me. What's the term?

Mary might have brought you and the Papists a glimmer of hope. But Elizabeth I dashed it, first when the dang girl died anyway, and second when Philip's Armanda ran hard into Mother Nature--another case of ideology falling before simple reality.





more waste splattered over the thread.

again as usual you assume that if the pope owns the damn place it means he also sits on the thrown.

tunnel vision fucktards by popular demand




Musicmystery -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 11:49:15 AM)

Go back through the posts.

I keep adding points. You keep adding pokes.

It still doesn't add up to England under the Pope.




Real0ne -> RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 (4/21/2010 11:58:36 AM)


since you are so fucking handicapped here:


not induced by force or compelled by fear, but of our own good and spontaneous will and by the common counsel of our barons, do offer and freely concede to God and His holy apostles Peter and Paul and to our mother the holy Roman church, and to our lord pope Innocent and to his Catholic successors, the whole kingdom of England and the whole kingdom Ireland, with all their rights and appurtenances, for the. remission of our own sins and of those of our whole race as well for the living as for the dead; and now receiving and holding them, as it were a vassal, from God and the Roman church, in the presence of that prudent man Pandulph, subdeacon and of the household of the lord pope, we perform and swear fealty for them to him our aforesaid lord pope Innocent, and his catbolic successors and the Roman church, according to the form appended; and in the presence of the lord pope, if we shall be able to come before him, we shall do liege homage to him; binding our successors aid our heirs by our wife forever,


of course there remains to be seen that you can read.






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