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KitttyMeowX -> Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 11:27:25 AM)

over half the girls on profiles want to be humiliated raped, gang banged and abused?

What happened to safe sane and consensual? Does love have to come from being beaten to a pulp or getting diseases?What happened to loving the slave and treating them like a prized possession and not a worthless slut to be fucked by everyone?



Aileen1968 -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 11:33:44 AM)

I've seen a ton of profiles to the contrary...



Missokyst -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 11:38:11 AM)

Not to mention some people find that stuff hot. Different strokes..
It is not my thing but I have to say that "prized possession" crap kinda irks me too.
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I've seen a ton of profiles to the contrary...




Aileen1968 -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 11:38:52 AM)

Well yeah...that too. [:)]




RCdc -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 12:06:00 PM)

The only thing that the OP was missing was that submission is - indeed - a gift.[8|][:'(]

the.dark.



Wolf2Bear -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 12:27:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KitttyMeowX

over half the girls on profiles want to be humiliated raped, gang banged and abused?

What happened to safe sane and consensual? Does love have to come from being beaten to a pulp or getting diseases?What happened to loving the slave and treating them like a prized possession and not a worthless slut to be fucked by everyone?


Did you stop and think that maybe the ones who want humiliation/abuse/gang banged want it done after negotiating with a trusted partner? Realize that many do have legitimate fantasies of being taken quite roughly and yes, you could say rape role play yet what these profiles didn't get into was they would be negotiating quite in depth before they consent and allow that to happen to them. You have to see past what is written in the profiles and realize that before any type of scening of that nature or of any nature has  been discussed and all the angles negotiated between the don/sub long before they both decide to enact that scene.  All you are seeing is what is written, you don't see the talking/discussing that took place before anything happens.

edited to add:  I am still negotiating the finer details to a take down and rape scene where I will be the "victim" This will take place at a camp out I'm attending in August and involves a few dominant friends of mine. Not only do I have to express my worries/fears all who are participating also are doing the same, plus we are trying to cover any and all safety aspects for all concerned on a physical, emotional and mental level that will be agreeable by 5 people including myself. This has been in the works for several weeks and negotiations will probably continue untill al of us are satisfied with he terms agreed upon.



Smutmonger -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 12:29:46 PM)

Because it's freaking HOT.

Otherwise, they would be cruising the baptist churches for husbands? Once a week missionary, in the dark-we don't REALLY enjoy it-then pray to be forgiven for three hours?



pegbundy -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 12:32:37 PM)

I believe that being fully cherished, and being thoroughly used and humiliated can actually exist in the same place. One does not exclude the other.



rajaa -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 12:38:07 PM)

for me, they can be so very enjoyable, the struggle between trying to keep control, and then finally "forced" to submit...am i willing to let just ANYONE walk into my house/life and use and abuse me as such...don't think so...but with the RIGHT Person....and with much talking and planing....oh yes...there is something to be said about the struggling, and how it can intensify feelings...have i been raped (not during play) yes....but this is totally different, this is safe sane and consensual.



lally2 -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:01:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KitttyMeowX

over half the girls on profiles want to be humiliated raped, gang banged and abused?

What happened to safe sane and consensual? Does love have to come from being beaten to a pulp or getting diseases?What happened to loving the slave and treating them like a prized possession and not a worthless slut to be fucked by everyone?


its maybe hard to understand that some people do get off on that stuff.  i dont personally, but plenty do.  so for them it is safe, sane and concensual.

getting beaten to a pulp is a bit over dramatic i think - but i take youre point.  BDSM is a bit scary when you look at the pics and read some of the profiles.  its not youre thing, so fine, for them it is though.

and some people want to be treated like a worthless slut.  again their thing.

being a 'prized possession' for some means all of these things to them and their Master.

if it isnt for you then embrace the 'vivre la differance' and be glad there are people who want that stuff and will attract the D types that want it too.  let them swim in their pond, you swim in youres.



rajaa -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:18:09 PM)

maybe in doing those things it makes one become even more cherished...maybe going through something like that might bring Tthem closer together...sometimes it is fun to find out what makes ppl tick, and sometimes it can just boggle the mind... each their own.... but be true to yourself and find Someone that beleives and feels the same as you do, and then there is no need to worry...you guys would both be on the same page.



Smutmonger -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:20:38 PM)

And some girls really don't want to be "cherished", as hard as that may be for the romantics to understand. (Really-love is not a constant in ALL intimate relationships.)

It's about intensity and being in the moment for this sort. And the last things she wants is to feel "the security of having a handle on her top."

Because that would make it lame.



mnottertail -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:22:53 PM)

Ninon L'Enclos:

"I tell you on behalf of women: there is not one of us who does not prefer a little rough handling to too much consideration. Men lose through blundering more hearts than virtue saves.

The more timidity a lover shows with us, the more it concerns our pride to goad him on; the more respect he has for our resistance, the more respect we demand of him. We would willingly say to you men, “Ah, in pity’s name do not suppose us to be so very virtuous; you are forcing us to have too much of it. Do not put so high a price upon your conquest; do not treat our defeat as if it were something difficult. Accustom our imagination by degrees to seeing you doubt our indifference.”




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:23:42 PM)

Different people fantasize about different things.  Deal with it.

Not all fantasies can be enacted safely, but some can, and there's no reason they shouldn't be when that's the case.



rajaa -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 1:29:28 PM)

*ponders going for a shower and leaving the door wide open*   kidding!!!!! LOL



Ravensnake -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 4:27:20 PM)

I'm into sex and submission. A sexually dominant partner who takes what he wants in a relationship that borders on abuse but........still consensual.
Weak, submissive guys dont cut it for me, sexually.



FetishRose -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 4:28:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pegbundy

I believe that being fully cherished, and being thoroughly used and humiliated can actually exist in the same place. One does not exclude the other.

I concur. Being his princess on some days is nice, and being his dirty little slut on others is equally nice.  For me, his taking of my body (although its never unwilling, it often is surprised!), is just another facet of his love for me.  He loves it, I love it.  If it isn't your kink, don't engage in it.



Smutmonger -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 4:55:06 PM)

Of course, because being slapped around,taken down, tied and then ass raped without lube is so romantic![:D] Cherishing is BORING.
 
 
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ORIGINAL: Ravensnake

I'm into sex and submission. A sexually dominant partner who takes what he wants in a relationship that borders on abuse but........still consensual.
Weak, submissive guys dont cut it for me, sexually.



FetishRose -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 4:56:32 PM)

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Of course, because being slapped around,taken down, tied and then ass raped without lube is so romantic!


Hey, it is if there are rose petals thrown on the bed!



Smutmonger -> RE: Why rape, humiliation and abuse? (4/27/2010 4:59:52 PM)

I prefer pepperoni slices. That way I have a snack at hand while I have her belly down with my cock buried in her rectum. Did you know that thumping a woman in this position makes her sphincter clench?



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