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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:20:38 AM   
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Pa why do you have Creative's avatar?


I am on a lease program.  I lease one out- then when I get tired of it- I cash it in.  ;-0

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:23:57 AM   
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So you would mistake him for a white man if you saw him on the street?

No
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Do you know of anyone who when looking at him, thinks he is white?

Insufficient data to determine - never comes up in conversation.
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Except perhaps for you doesn't everyone who sees him identify him as black?

Impossible to determine - suggest you start polling "everyone" and get the answer.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:24:51 AM   
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Does the EEO/AA require anyone to hire unqualified people?
Yes.

Would you be so kind as to link us to the appropriate law that requires anyone to hire someone who is unqualified for the job?

No because there is no law - it is the result of the law. Why not start a topic on it?


First you say there is a requirement that unqualified people must be hired because of AA...now you admit you lied...but somehow did not lie and you clearly do not want to discuss your lie...
Business as usual in merkland.


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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:29:54 AM   
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First you say there is a requirement that unqualified people must be hired because of AA...now you admit you lied...but somehow did not lie and you clearly do not want to discuss your lie...
Business as usual in merkland.
The result of the law has unqualified people hired all the time. Before meeting the quota it serves one segment; once the 'quota' is met, unqualified non-AA people are hired, especially in the public sector where nepotism is second only to AA for hiring unqualified individuals.

It keeps people totally angry and provides the opportunity to perpetuate racist bigotry - but go ahead - support those things.

You are a VERY confused and troubled person.

BTW - It is 'MERC-LAND'!

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:31:09 AM   
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Aneirin seems to imply that we are a bunch of bigots and dislike Obama because of the color of his skin. If that were the case, he would never have been elected President in the first place.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:32:30 AM   
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The distinction is they ran something. Some business, in Reagan's case, the union representing actors. He also was governor of a State and had experience running a government, which at the time, would have been one of the top 5 economies in the world if it was a stand alone sovereignty.

A less than stellar acting carear.
A less than stellar military carear.
Didn't he empty the insane asylums and fill the streets with the mentaly ill and put a burden on the taxpayers that we are still suffering from in California today?




In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.
How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:32:50 AM   
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Aneirin seems to imply that we are a bunch of bigots and dislike Obama because of the color of his skin. If that were the case, he would never have been elected President in the first place.


we have a constitution here.   they have libel laws in the UK.  also one must consider how the media is.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:33:24 AM   
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Pa why do you have Creative's avatar?


I am on a lease program.  I lease one out- then when I get tired of it- I cash it in.  ;-0



So Rons is up next? Or maybe you could get Tupac as domi is now onto Barry.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:37:25 AM   
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In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.

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How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"


I didn't vote for him - you?

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:39:23 AM   
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First you say there is a requirement that unqualified people must be hired because of AA...now you admit you lied...but somehow did not lie and you clearly do not want to discuss your lie...
Business as usual in merkland.
The result of the law has unqualified people hired all the time.

The point is that the law does not require that and you said it did and it doesn't


Before meeting the quota it serves one segment; once the 'quota' is met, unqualified non-AA people are hired, especially in the public sector where nepotism is second only to AA for hiring unqualified individuals.

The law as you have clearly stated does not REQUIRE the hiring of the unqualified. So there appears to be prima facia evidence that unqualified hires are the result of those who would seek to subvert the purpose of AA.

It keeps people totally angry and provides the opportunity to perpetuate racist behavior.

It seems to do that for you


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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:42:04 AM   
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In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.

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thompsonx
How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"



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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:44:35 AM   
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Pa why do you have Creative's avatar?


I am on a lease program.  I lease one out- then when I get tired of it- I cash it in.  ;-0



So Rons is up next? Or maybe you could get Tupac as domi is now onto Barry.


I will have to surprise you.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 10:45:25 AM   
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In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.

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thompsonx
How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"



I appreciate good entertainment, and I've just got to say - It is SO much fun to watch you try and quote!

It never gets old!

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:01:13 AM   
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In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.


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thompsonx
How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"



I appreciate good entertainment, and I've just got to say - It is SO much fun to watch you try and quote!

It never gets old!




For the intellectually challanged commenting on style is always easier than comment on substance
Which is obviously why you do it.
The question was and is why are you supporting the "rewarding of failure"?



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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:04:58 AM   
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Is it because he's black?

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:14:32 AM   
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Reagan had been a military officer, president of the screen actors guild, the governor of California... the truth about the man is nothing like you have been led to believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

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Merc, aside from your sarcasm, I guess you would say you're also assuming the reasons that Obama associates with being black for personal gain or political capital, instead of assuming the father/son complex and he is identifying with his father.

Personally, I never took the stance that he was our "messiah", nor that he has "run out of time".  I understood quite well at that time that whoever got the job was getting one helluva job that was going to be a bitch to tackle.  So I'll refrain from calling him a failure, yet...or maybe even at all. 

Being as most presidents have never been presidents before...and many have lacked in areas when coming thru the gate, I also will not judge his credentials for the job.  If we go by that logic, why did we elect a class B actor (Reagan), as the president, back then?




He wasn't a military officer. He sat it out and created a nice long line of repugs that were "hawks" but for some reason never saw fit to serve. lol. He made training videos .....

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:14:56 AM   
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Is it because he's black?


I believe that merc has in the past "self identified as black" so maybe you are onto something

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:15:30 AM   
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Aneirin seems to imply that we are a bunch of bigots and dislike Obama because of the color of his skin. If that were the case, he would never have been elected President in the first place.


I can't agree that Aneirin was implying that "we are a bunch of bigots." I read the OP as asking whether much of the opposition is based upon Obama's race. I suspect that given the nasty history of race relations in this country many people were shocked and may still be dismayed at the election of our first African American President. There has been a continuing campaign to deligitimize Obama as "not one of us" right from the beginning with the "birther" movement. The election of a Black man to that high office was a revolutionary historical event. People who claim his race is not a factor in some of the opposition have to be ignorant of the magnitude of the change in our History and culture.

Columnist Frank Rich wrote an Op Ed recently which connected the fear that some display toward Obama as "the other" to the hostility vented recently against brown-skinned illegals coming across out southern border looking for work, despite the fact the border has been permeable for 230 years. I think there is some validity in that.

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:21:36 AM   
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In Lincoln's case, he had a failed businesses in his past.

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thompsonx
How strange you seem to be advocating for "rewarding failure"



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The question was and is why are you supporting the "rewarding of failure"?

x, I know this is a VERY important and completely on topic issue for you. However, and considering I really don't want to get into your head to be able to understand why, I'll respond.

I have never voted for Lincoln, never contributed to his campaign, and if somehow it comes to past he's running for something in the future - I promise you I will not be "rewarding failure" by doing so.

Happy you cleared that up?

BTW - This just in......

I know you get all your news from CM and the threads - but Lincoln (assuming you meant Abraham Lincoln) is dead!

The 'official' story is that an 'actor' John Wilkes Booth shot him - however there are many conspiracy theories which point to complicit participation from a variety of sources. Suspicions surround the 'Buggy Whip' manufactures PAC - upset that Lincoln vetoed their bail out package. There is also a foreign element. The undocumented workers lobby was upset that freeing the slaves was going to curtail their constituencies ability to get good paying landscaping jobs in the soon to be reconstructed South.

As a intellectual student of history, up on National and World events - what do you think?

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RE: Is it because he's black ? - 5/5/2010 11:24:17 AM   
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I gave the link previously:

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Military service

After completing fourteen home-study Army Extension Courses, Reagan enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve[27] on April 29, 1937, as a private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa.[28] He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on May 25, 1937, and on June 18 was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.[29] His service number was 0 357 403.

Reagan was ordered to active duty for the first time on April 18, 1942. Due to his nearsightedness, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas.[30] His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as a liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office.[31]Army Air Force (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF on May 15, 1942, and was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit (officially, the "18th AAF Base Unit") in Culver City, California.[31] On January 14, 1943 he was promoted to First Lieutenant and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California.[31] He returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit after completing this duty and was promoted to Captain on July 22, 1943.

In January 1944, Captain Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the sixth War Loan Drive. He was re-assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit on November 14, 1944, where he remained until the end of World War II.[28] He was recommended for promotion to Major on February 2, 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year.[32] He returned to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on December 9, 1945.[32] By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the AAF.[28]


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