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pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 10:47:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Herfacechair..just ignore Pahunk and Real One, most of us do...they are batshit crazy conspiracy fruitcakes



yeh take ars advice he never gets anything right



Maybe, but he sure nailed everyones opinion of you.


Yeah parish the thought of vocal independent thinkers.   We would all still live in caves if it wasn't for guys like me. 

Like it or not- when I post- people gasp.   Gasps are not always bad.  See cave living for me.




Arpig -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 11:09:04 AM)

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Like it or not- when I post- people gasp.
Yeah, we gasp at the sheer stupidity of 75% of what you post...the other 25% we can't even comprhend.




Politesub53 -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 11:30:34 AM)

Pahunk, for someone who follows Larouche as gospel, your stupid thoughts seems far from independent.

There is also a massive difference between independent thought and denying established facts.




pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 12:20:05 PM)

I love it when people don't listen to me stack precious metals.  More assets for ME.


Gold is up.   But even if it isnt- some of you love Keynes.

Besides I mean people who are like me- not soley me.




RacerJim -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 12:51:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Nah-uh. You post first. You are spouting, again,  pack of fucking lies and when called on it you can't produce shit. Quit the fucking lying.


No way pal...you're the one who spouted off first...the pack of lies by the SBVT. I called your bluff and you didn't produce the pack of lies, in fact not even one lie. Take a hike.


Not your fucking pal. You started in on Kerry first. Just put it in quotes from actual testimony verbatim from his mouth. Please do it for me. Or else just shut up.


"Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Kerry own words (in bold) self-incriminate him as a TRAITOR because its an act of treason for anyone, moreover an Officer in the U.S. military, to discuss foreign policy of any kind with official representatives of an existing enemy without the explicit approval of/on behalf of the U.S. government.

On “Meet the Press” May 6, 2001, Tim Russert played John Kerry an audiotape from April 18, 1971, where Kerry was asked whether he committed war crimes in Vietnam. Kerry’s response, on the 1971 tape, was:

“I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions. . .”

Now go f yourself, pal.




brainiacsub -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 1:07:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Like it or not- when I post- people gasp.   Gasps are not always bad.  See cave living for me.


Gasp...yes, that is exactly my reaction. Sometimes it feels like choking, though.




pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 1:39:27 PM)

Anyhow- a service stud- would have flown how many hours?   So figure jet lag.   I am sure he has fun stuff to do then to babysit us.

He does have a point- that they cant really advertise a big success as a new school would be a pile of rubble.




mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 1:46:47 PM)

Jimbo, you are full of shit as a christmas goose regarding what is treason. Just because some random idiot on the net wants it to be treason don't make it at all so.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

and the rest of your bullshit, just too fuckin ignorant to comment on further. 




pahunkboy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 1:50:50 PM)

and after the bickering here the poor man cant wait to return to the war zone for some tranquility. 




Real0ne -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:09:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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Herfacechair..just ignore Pahunk and Real One, most of us do...they are batshit crazy conspiracy fruitcakes



yeh take ars advice he never gets anything right



Maybe, but he sure nailed everyones opinion of you.


Yeah parish the thought of vocal independent thinkers.   We would all still live in caves if it wasn't for guys like me. 

Like it or not- when I post- people gasp.   Gasps are not always bad.  See cave living for me.




now if you really want to piss these mo joes off dont follow anyone 90% of the time they cant even argue the points intelligently because they arent researched in the matter.

Of course slurs are fine and understandable from the peenutter gallery LOL




mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:10:57 PM)

and you see yourself arguing intelligently about anything at all? 




tazzygirl -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:11:47 PM)

~FR

The man came to these boards to offer his view of whats occuring there, to answer any questions posters may have to the best of his ability. And what he has happened in what happened to the Nam Vets when they returned home. Only differece is that he cant feel the spit running down his face because its textual spit.

So many here should be ashamed.




RacerJim -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:28:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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No, one chunk of bullshit at a time, lets go back to the swiftboat fuckheads, now who among them actually served with Kerry, on the boat, and were there when he won his medals?



Why not just answer the questions? Oh yeah, you can't or else your argument  flies right out of  the window. Good luck convincing yourself you are right.


Answer:  Zero.  Thanks for playing, and don't forget your parting gifts.


Anyone who profers that only those who actually served with Kerry, actually on his boat, and were actually with him on his boat when he did whatever to subsequently be awarded his medals are able to say whether Kerry actually did whatever or not is an idiot because during every patrol for which Kerry subsequently was awarded a medal there was one/more other boat(s) accompaning Kerry's...meaning there were 6/more swiftboaters who were eye-witnesses to what happened during every patrol Kerry participated in. But that's okay, thanks for asking me to play your silly game.

Here's a list of the 19 other PCF OIC's who actually served with Kerry in Coastal Division 11, actually took their own boat(s) on patrol with Kerry, and were eye-witnesses to every action for which Kerry subsequently was awarded a medal: Robert Elder, Larry Thurlow, Robert Crosby, William Houle, Rich McCann, Michael Bernique, Robert Hildreth, Thomas Heritage, George Elliot, George Bates, Al French, James Galvin, Terrance Costello, William Imbrie, Skip Barker, Rich Baker, William Shumadine, Ralph Dobson and Frank Gilbert. During the 2004 election 12 of those 19 considered Kerry unfit to serve as POTUS, 2 were neutral, 2 had died before the election and 3 supported Kerry for POTUS.

Now then, let's do indeed go to those who actually served with Kerry, actually on his boat as part of his crew, and were actually on his boat as part of his crew when he "earned" his medals. Name one of them who gave an eye-witness statement to any Officer considering recommending Kerry for any medal which supported Kerry's version of the action and include either a verbatim copy/pic of or a link to said statement and the name of the Officer they gave same to. Have fun and good luck...there weren't any such eye-witness statements in any of the files Kerry released about his military service.




RacerJim -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:31:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

The man came to these boards to offer his view of whats occuring there, to answer any questions posters may have to the best of his ability. And what he has happened in what happened to the Nam Vets when they returned home. Only differece is that he cant feel the spit running down his face because its textual spit.

So many here should be ashamed.


Exactly. The shame of the textual spitters...cowards one and all.




mnottertail -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:35:21 PM)

Those are only alleged eyewitnesses never been corroborated, not by files, not by officers, not by anything other than themselves. Nearly all of his actual shipmates said he deserved each and every medal.

cite your bullshit.




domiguy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:43:52 PM)

RacerJim is the reason we lost the war in Viet Nam. Every person I have spoke with said when he was not giving blow jobs or in some whore house he was smoking hash.  Never once discharged his weapon.....(his rifle)

These people would not lie. Robert Elder, Larry Thurlow, Robert Crosby, William Houle, Rich McCann, Michael Bernique, Robert Hildreth, Thomas Heritage, George Elliot, George Bates, Al French, James Galvin, Terrance Costello, William Imbrie, Skip Barker, Rich Baker, William Shumadine, Ralph Dobson and Frank Gilbert.

They have all said that if RacerJim would have just admitted to being a homo that the U.S would have been victorious. 

USA!  USA! USA! USA!  USA! USA!

There are their names, therefore this cannot possibly be refuted.




domiguy -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 2:45:29 PM)

Textually spits on tazzy and racerjim.

Edited to add....here comes a nice textual face shot.




DomYngBlk -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 3:56:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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Nah-uh. You post first. You are spouting, again,  pack of fucking lies and when called on it you can't produce shit. Quit the fucking lying.


No way pal...you're the one who spouted off first...the pack of lies by the SBVT. I called your bluff and you didn't produce the pack of lies, in fact not even one lie. Take a hike.


Not your fucking pal. You started in on Kerry first. Just put it in quotes from actual testimony verbatim from his mouth. Please do it for me. Or else just shut up.


"Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Kerry own words (in bold) self-incriminate him as a TRAITOR because its an act of treason for anyone, moreover an Officer in the U.S. military, to discuss foreign policy of any kind with official representatives of an existing enemy without the explicit approval of/on behalf of the U.S. government.

On “Meet the Press” May 6, 2001, Tim Russert played John Kerry an audiotape from April 18, 1971, where Kerry was asked whether he committed war crimes in Vietnam. Kerry’s response, on the 1971 tape, was:

“I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions. . .”

Now go f yourself, pal.



Thats not what treason consists of pally. But that isn't either here or there. My question to you is why slam a Man who served honorably in a conflict overseas with decoration? What is your angst with Mr. Kerry? Do you know him personally? Why trash him over other men of the same time that didn't even try to serve. That found a way out of service without putting the uniform on? I guess I just don't get where your mindset is.




RacerJim -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 4:00:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Jimbo, you are full of shit as a christmas goose regarding what is treason. Just because some random idiot on the net wants it to be treason don't make it at all so.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

and the rest of your bullshit, just too fuckin ignorant to comment on further. 


Whatever your real name is, you are full of ideologic bullshit.

18 USC § 2381. Treason.
"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States . . . adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

Congressional Oath of Office taken by John F. Kerry in the Navy and in the U.S. Senate:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

U.S. CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE III, SECTION 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. . .

In 1970 U.S. Navy Reserve Ltjg John F. Kerry went first to Hanoi North Vietnam then to Paris France, both times on his own behalf, where he met with North Vietnamese governmental officials and representatives of the Viet Cong specifically to discuss the United States accepting (adhering to) the terms of their peace plan, to wit: Kerry's 1971 testimony under oath before the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee wherein he implored the POTUS to accept (adhere to) North Vietnam's and the Viet Cong's peace plan. As clear an act of TREASON as there can be.

UCMJ SECTION 904. ART. 104. - AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

In April of 1972, then U.S. Navy Reserve Lt John F. Kerry represented the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) at the "Emergency March for Peace" in Bryant Park in New York City. According to the FBI files on the Vietnam Veterans Against the War/Winter Soldier Organization (VVAW/WSO), a canvass of VVAW/WSO members at the "Emergency March for Peace" produced substantive information that VVAW/WSO members, some of whom who were active duty military, had obtained knowledge indicating the US would soon be conducting bombing raids against Hanoi and Haiphong and had disseminated said information to Hanioi prior to said bombings. A clear violation of UCMJ Section 904. ART. 104. - Aiding the Enemy and 18 USC 2381 - Treason.

Take YOUR bull$hit and shove it.







Termyn8or -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (5/6/2010 10:04:58 PM)

FR sorta

"The man came to these boards to offer his view of whats occuring there"

Whether or not the OP is for real I am quite dismayed at the treatment of this thread. It should be deleted. The fuckheads around here have seemingly scared the US military away. This is really not good.

We sit here and profess to agree to disagree and yet can't manage to really do it, and this thread is proof.

Look, radicals, the hammer is coming and you might not like it. It is not that you are not right. It is your adamance about the subject. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? Somehow you feel the need to totally convert others from a belief system instailled in them for decades at least, and you must do it overnight, using a few copies from hundred year old law books and a video from people who want to sell you their special water machine, or cancer curin machine.

See how you look ? AND THAT IS FROM ME WHO IS ON YOUR FUCKING SIDE.

Look, when looking for "love" or lust or whatever many people do have some degree of taste, restraint and so forth. Why the fuck is it that it all seems to evaporate when subjects concernong law or politics come up ? I mean in perspective are you that much more serious about the tweedle race than getting laid ? Nice thought, but it will not get us out of this mess.

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