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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:14:29 PM   
RacerJim


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Does that mean you would refuse to show a police office your drivers license for a traffic stop ?


That is a completely different situation.

Being required to show you are licensed to operate a vehicle while operating a vehicle and being suspected of violating a traffic law is not the same as being asked to produce identification for no reason.




And Arizona's new law specifically precludes the latter. You sound just like AG Eric Holder, who just admitted he didn't read the new law before he denounced it as unconstitutional.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:15:11 PM   
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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:15:58 PM   
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Please, don't confuse him with the facts


You're too confused with the facts to realize you are.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:18:39 PM   
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one fuck up and AZ is deeper in the financial shit house. I got a feeling Hispanic Americans are going to end up owning the state.


I've been there..............they can have it. Let's give em a package deal and toss in Texas too!



LOL


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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:20:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		of the 75% who've heard of the law, 59% agree, but we don't quite know what they know about the law, but we also know it is overwhelmingly republican...HEY!!!!! Like the healthcare laws they bitched about nobody reading or being able to read and therefore BAD, they dont read any of the fucking things either, before they are for or against it!!!!

Who knew they were common garden variety idiots just like the rest??????? (well I guess I did).



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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:21:12 PM   
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Ja, who gives a fuck, just cuz 60-90% of people jump off bridges does that mean you should too?

ENFORCE THE LAW.  WE ARE ALREADY PAYING TO ENFORCE IT.  Write your legislators.  get mad. 



That's precisely what the Governor of Arizona has been begging the Federal government to do for the better part of TWO YEARS now, to no avail, and that's precisely why Arizona just enacted its' own law which it intends to enforce.


Seems to me, he should have sued Bush and co.


Seems to me, since the Governor of Arizona is a she, you don't know a G-D thing about that which you speak.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:26:12 PM   
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Seems to me, since the Governor of Arizona is a she, you don't know a G-D thing about that which you speak.

 

It seems to me that you just spew shit without any sort of official analysis...

Please provide links to legal opinions about the SB 1070, and please include relevant text to the law to substantiate what you are saying....

http://acluaz.org/ACLU-AZ%20Section%20By%20Section%20Analysis%20of%20SB1070updated%204-14-10.pdf

Now this is the ACLU analysis of the law in question, but instead of just rambling on about what it is and what it isn't, they have the text of the law and go over it section by section


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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:30:44 PM   
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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:35:07 PM   
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what does it really matter what the general population has to say about anything?

Exactly

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:43:41 PM   
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what does it really matter what the general population has to say about anything?


Because if people in other states start thinking this is a good idea then perhaps they will want to put similar measures on the books. There are other reasons, like furthering awareness about human rights, I do not want to live in a country where it is the popular opinion that we should ignore our constitution and implement racial profiling. I want to advocate for a better position than that


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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:49:15 PM   
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Please, don't confuse him with the facts


You're too confused with the facts to realize you are.


Are you talking?

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:49:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, have any cops walked into Banner, or Honeywell, or Wells Fargo, or Intel, or Raytheon, or Kroger, or Home Depot, or even fuckin Wal-Mart and done shit?  Wasn't that the pisser?  That the feds weren't doing nothing, now we got all the law enforcement agencies not doing nothing......what a cost savings.

Well then, didn't take long to start-up some lawsuits, but ain't no mexicans been rounded up, so yeah, that's a hellova law you boys got there.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:53:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Idiots pay attention to this kind of shit....Only a moron places stock in what percentages of Howie Carr listeners support this new AZ law.

What percentage of Howie Carr listeners would have supported Senator McCarthy or Japaneses internment camps....I'm guessing about 100%.

It's true that you can't let an uneducated public dictate what laws are to be created but it can't really be stopped.

In time they will realize the error of their ways only after scores of people will have their lives irreparably damaged....It's what we do.

We are the leaders of the free world when it comes to doing shit like this.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:56:35 PM   
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They have all kinds of things that we could refuse to buy.

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 12:59:36 PM   
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Hey, I have an idea, California is boycotting Arizona so how about we start a boycott against California?
They have all kinds of things that we could refuse to buy.


We will just sell them elsewhere

You see, people like totally love California fruit and veggies!

And btw, it isn't California that is boycotting AZ, it is just our largest cities...lol


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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 1:01:09 PM   
juliaoceania


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Unfortunately life gets in the way of arguing on CM


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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 1:02:51 PM   
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Hey, I have an idea, California is boycotting Arizona so how about we start a boycott against California?
They have all kinds of things that we could refuse to buy.


We will just sell them elsewhere

You see, people like totally love California fruit and veggies!

And btw, it isn't California that is boycotting AZ, it is just our largest cities...lol



Oh? And what did "Arnold" say? I say we do it!

"FUCK CALIFORNIA! Don't buy!!!"

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 1:06:13 PM   
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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 1:11:53 PM   
popeye1250


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Guess where we *won't* be going the following year? And that's usually about 300 people for four days. Lots of money there! A few hundred thousand. maybe

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RE: ABC News Reports 59% Agree with Az. Immigration Law - 5/14/2010 1:17:31 PM   
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Idiots pay attention to this kind of shit....Only a moron places stock in what percentages of Howie Carr listeners support this new AZ law.



Howie Carr is God , Rush is his only begotten son, and Beck is the weeping virgin.

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