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RE: Risks of internal enslavement aka TPE - 6/1/2010 4:55:32 AM

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I immediately went searching around for articles on Buddhism (with an 'h', notably... that didn't help my initial suspicion) and didn't find anything regarding entitlement.

That's because the point Kyra raised was about handling desires. In that light, one would strive to let go of feelings of entitlement. She then compared this to Buddhism's stance on desire, which, as others noted, is commonly misunderstood by Western readers.

As for sources, you turned to Wikipedia looking for entitlements. As I told you earlier, find a book, any book, on Buddhism. These are standard precepts we're talking about here, not obscure doctrine.

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RE: Risks of internal enslavement aka TPE - 6/1/2010 10:37:51 AM

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Silence8,

I've never encountered Buddhist teachings on entitlement as mentioned. However, they do go into detail in discussing their perspective on Ego and Desire. Both would include the previous subject as well. In terms of nothingness it is truthfully No-Thing instead. Osho put forth some interesting ideas on the topic that can be easier to grasp, particularly if one lacks a foundation in Buddhism or Hinduism. I'll admit he is viewed by controversy by some, but that's true of most at one time. You'll see similar ideas put forth by Deepak Chopra. For an overview I'd probably suggest reviewing The Seven Laws of Spiritual Success. He includes an overview on his website. The Law of Intention and Desire and The Law of Detachment would fill in a few gaps as it relates to the discussion. Hinduism is the mother and Buddhism draws quite a few influences from it. I prefer to go to the source whenever possible.

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That sounds interesting.

I'll check it out.

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RE: Risks of internal enslavement aka TPE - 6/1/2010 2:06:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine
Silence8,

I've never encountered Buddhist teachings on entitlement as mentioned. However, they do go into detail in discussing their perspective on Ego and Desire. Both would include the previous subject as well. In terms of nothingness it is truthfully No-Thing instead. Osho put forth some interesting ideas on the topic that can be easier to grasp, particularly if one lacks a foundation in Buddhism or Hinduism. I'll admit he is viewed by controversy by some, but that's true of most at one time. You'll see similar ideas put forth by Deepak Chopra. For an overview I'd probably suggest reviewing The Seven Laws of Spiritual Success. He includes an overview on his website. The Law of Intention and Desire and The Law of Detachment would fill in a few gaps as it relates to the discussion. Hinduism is the mother and Buddhism draws quite a few influences from it. I prefer to go to the source whenever possible.

~porcelaine

I so totally have to agree with this post, if anything it's good information to read and to get a higher insight and understanding. Take with it what you can or will. While I have not fully embraced any one religion or spiritual teaching, (reasons to which I not want to go into at the time), both Buddhism and Hinduism will help bring you to at least a higher understanding of yourself.

As Musicmystery expressed about clearing the surface to understand what lies beneath. In essense it's a form of self mastery through knowing yourself. Some people are very hard on themselves needlessly, inflicting their own living hell upon themselves as a mean of self inflicted punishment for various things. None the less, this does little for a person to fully embrace what is inside themself.

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RE: Risks of internal enslavement aka TPE - 6/1/2010 4:46:27 PM

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Whiplashsmile4,

An understanding of Buddhist philosophies wasn't necessary for this discussion. At best one merely needed a reference point to grasp the context of the ideas that were relayed. If the reader desired to peruse the bones he'd dig a little deeper on his own. But to start at the point without some definitive interest in taking that journey is pretty futile in my opinion.

I am not religious by any stretch of the word. At one time in my life I held beliefs and practices that I no longer adhere to. However, my approach towards slavery has been influenced by some of the concepts put forth in Eastern teachings. Sometimes they come forth in the expressions used or the suggestions made. There's always a method to my madness. I don't pull it out of a hat. It's something I've done and tested with results I can articulate.

I view each as potential vehicles to greater self knowledge. Whether one employs religion, dominance and submission, or other avenues is a matter of choice. Each can have a marked affect on the participant if self betterment is the goal. My quest has been largely based on uncovering ones truth, which may negate earlier truths as new discoveries are made. The writings on mindfulness, ego, desire, attachment, and stillness provide interesting ideas that could prove beneficial for persons in and outside of the kneel.

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