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MissAsylum -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/3/2010 3:24:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

Those "experts" should be SHOT!  Is this the degree to which the US population has been affected by loss of culture that so many are incapable of appreciating art?  That work should have probably raised the value of the house, not brought it down!  That's just crazy!



well after doing some research- that show was cancelled a long time ago. there were a mother/daughter real estate team. i betcha that episode killed them lol.




LanceHughes -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/5/2010 8:41:49 PM)

I am NOT going to argue with the "client."  You asked my advice.  Currently it is:

Paint all walls the color of the backgroud of the poster.  Frame it in a cherry-wood frame.  If need be, use cheap pine, but stain it a cherry wood to match furniture and put a high gloss finish on it.  If you've got different "colors" of cherry, what a great chance to make a piece 1/2 way between so as to tie 'em all together.

So... you've got major color cream, major accent the red of cherry wood and the feathers in the poster.  One "minor" accent allowed.  The black in the poster suggests sexy black satin pillows.  And some black leather pillows as well.  Cream bedclothes and a red accent pillow or two.

Go read about Josephine Baker.

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The red of cherry wood is now on FOUR pieces of furniture.  It has now become first accent color. If you insist aqua is your main color, you are making it very difficult for your <volunteer> Interior Decorator to help.  Wherever such a strong red will be next to such a strong blue, the seam IS going to vibrate, making it hard-on-the-eyes.  This is physiology, plain and simple.  I suggest you go get some paint chips of your chosen shade of aqua and lay them on the cherry furniture you have.  Don't stare, just look for a second or two.... look away, then back.

Sexy is NOT having the whole room distract you.

Good luck making cherry furniture work with so much aqua.  I'm not trying to be mean or anything like that.  I just can't image such a thing working.  If you can make it "work" - GREAT!  I'd love to see it 'cause I'm always trying to expand my knowledge.




pahunkboy -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/5/2010 8:59:33 PM)

I do not want the cherry wood painted.



STOMP




LanceHughes -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/5/2010 9:13:15 PM)

pahunk - NOBODY ever said "paint the furniture."  Stand DOWN, boy.

The paint chips laid ON the furniture were to show how hard it is to put cherry next to aqua walls before painting THE WALLS, you fool!!!!

Why have a totally mono-chromatic (one color) room?




lucylucy -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/5/2010 10:34:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
Lance?  come help me decorate/dress... *adores you*  LOL

Seriously! Lance, I need your help with my decorating dilemma (more like a tragedy). When you're done helping MissAsylum, I need your help . . . and I will mail you homemade cookies or whatever your sweet tooth desires.

Edited because I just realized you're local!!! I will deliver cookies in person!




MissAsylum -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/6/2010 3:53:37 AM)

i wasnt arguing- which is why i had said "i could be wrong". i dont argue with people who are trying to help me. that was just what i had thought- that wood is a nuetral. and supposedly- cherrywood is french-y boudoir acceptable(not sure HOW exactly. i see white furniture typically- just like you had mentioned before.) and i dont want a strong aqua. i was thinking more like a teal(forgive me if i had mentioned aqua instead of teal somewhere) in a very muted but not muddy tone. i dont want my walls to scream at me. come to think of it- the photo that you had tried to post was what i was thinking of(despite it pastel nature) and as far as the rest of the room- i wanted to have teal accents: my sheets under my black and white comforter set, one teal accent pillow, sheer drapes behind the black and white ones, maybe teal candles or something- but that would be it, which is why i thought the walls being a teal color would work instead of doing black and white walls...or leaving it the plain, drywall eggshell color




LanceHughes -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/6/2010 8:25:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
Lance?  come help me decorate/dress... *adores you*  LOL

Seriously! Lance, I need your help with my decorating dilemma (more like a tragedy). When you're done helping MissAsylum, I need your help . . . and I will mail you homemade cookies or whatever your sweet tooth desires.

Edited because I just realized you're local!!! I will deliver cookies in person!


lucylucy: you have C-Mail (in a minute)




LanceHughes -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/6/2010 9:09:49 AM)

Okay, now we have more items that are "must use."

I have to go away for awhile.  Will put this odd combo into back of head and let it stew.  I'm sure there is something; just haven't got the time right now.  There is always something. LOL!

Regards, Lance








LanceHughes -> RE: Still decorating...more help is needed. (6/6/2010 5:53:24 PM)

wood is a neutral  - NOT at all.  There's a rainbow of woods.  Some woods are of a neutral color, but that doesn't mean all woods are neutral by fiat.

cherrywood is french-y boudoir acceptable (not sure HOW exactly. i see white furniture typically- just like you had mentioned before.)  This is were "we" are going to have our biggest problem.  I have to ask - what do you mean by "A French boudoir"?  That's at the basis of trying to help you get the effect you're talking about.  If white furniture with gold trim is central, well, can't be done with cherrywood.  The white furniture (w/ gold) evokes in most people that Louis XIV look.  Show someone, anyone such a piece of furniture in a show room and their mind instantly places it in such a room.  And (unfortunately for your idea of using the cherrywood instead) if one shows a Louis XIV room without furniture, and asks "Which one these pieces of furniture belong in here?" NO ONE will pick the colorful, RED cherrywood furniture.

Going the other way, you yourself say - in two phrases, reversed and merged here for emphasis - "not sure HOW exactly cherrywood is french-y boudoir acceptable."  Your gut is right.  It isn't acceptable in what I think you meant by French boudoir.  That's why I was trying to get you off Louis XIV and into something more YOU as opposed to something more Marie Antoinette.

i dont want a strong aqua. i was thinking more like a teal in a very muted but not muddy tone. i dont want my walls to scream at me. come to think of it- the photo that you had tried to post was what i was thinking of (despite its pastel nature.) I'm going to guess that you meant "despite [the] pastel nature [of the rest of the furnishings and accents."]  But, but,... that wall color is called "dusky aqua."  When you say "a teal in a very muted but not muddy tone,"  my immediate response is "show me the paint chip."  Can't decide on paint chip?  Sometimes it really helps to go buy a small quantity of each of your top three choices and put 'em on the walls - space about 2' by 3' tall of each - not too close either! Put one piece of furniture in front of each of your paint samples - maybe even make the paint samples close enuf to the floor so that furniture upper back corner can be tested for appearnce.  PLAN!  Spend a little time and money to get it right...... just sayin'

P.S.  From you, I'm getting medium teal - as in half-way between full and pastel. 

When you say "not muddy," that makes me think not greyed down, but less bright than full chroma.  When you say "very muted, no screaming,"  I think "not pastel, but not full chroma."

When you say "teal, not aqua,"  I'm thinking closer to green than blue.  GET THEE TO THE PAINT STORE!  Black and white axis is not only one.  You have the intensity of the color.  You can have a BRIGHT, pale yellow... or a pale, yellow grey.  Colors are NOT as most people think they are.

BUT, and I cannot emphasize this enough.... BUT, before you paint, please, please, please get three identical chips of your color choice and lay them side-by-side ON the cherrywood and do the test I suggest above.  Look at the chips for a few seconds, look away at a white or beige surface for a few seconds, then back at the chips for a few seconds.  Your eyes WILL vibrate - it's a simple physiological reaction.  When reds are adjacent to blues, the overlap will vibrate, plain and simple. If you have your heart set on teal, pick the greenest teal you can stand.

i wanted to have teal accents: my sheets under my black and white comforter set
one teal accent pillow
- ARRRGH - NEVER one pillow - three at least!  I like three - more is "so 90s."  One is "my lack of confidence is showing."
sheer drapes behind the black and white ones
maybe teal candles or something
but that would be it, which is why i thought the walls being a teal color would work


OKAY, I see where you-'n'-I are having a problem.  When I say "accent color"  I mean the proportion of color used.  There's NO rule that says "Accent pieces must all be off the accent color and no other pieces may be of that color."  I'm thinking that so far, we have 20% of the surfaces are going to be cherrywood which automatically makes it the major accent color.

I CAN'T TELL - I have no proportions, no measurements!!!!  Decorators speak of 60-30-10.  That's ideal.  I don't see you going with more cherrywood to come to 30. Since the black-white comforter and curtains(?) are a given, we're to 50-20-15-15. That means the blacks and whites are going to compete, almost looking like there are three equal accent colors - teal, black and white.

YIKES!  No wonder this is such a problem for you......(and for me)

You've set yourself an unsolvable problem.  It's like a math problem that says "what number is both greater than 8 and smaller than 5?"  It's that you have too many constraints.  I was trying to go: 40-40 black and white, 20 cherrywood and that's IT!  That can be sharp and sexy - but in any instance, think about the proportion of cherry wood to your black and white comforter. (Do you own the drapes, or was that a "going-to-get" idea?) Think about size of walls in proportion.  Think about the best wall color to back-up the furniture (trick - you can have 1 painted one color, 3 white - WAY too difficult this instance, or two-and-two, or some such.....)

This is why Interior Designers START with "what MUST be used" and the measurements of everything.  I don't even know if you have a headboard or a footboard. 

I got nuthin'  (more), sorry.........




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