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E stim equipment??? - 6/2/2010 1:36:24 PM

Xeandra

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I've been looking for E stim and i know results vary but i'm looking for something decently priced for a male body for the purpouse of milking without pleasure i mean electrods put on so that they squirt no pleasure involved just muscle contractions. I also want to to be affordable and something that just gets the job done. PReffered to hear from experinceds male submssives but will also take reccomandations from dominants.

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/2/2010 2:01:52 PM

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I just spoke with my supplier and was informed it is difficult to find an e-stim product to milk a man without causing some pleasure.
His suggestion for an item to cause milking would be an electro butt plug to stimulate the prostrate which will milk a man but it may also cause pleasure.
This varies from each individual.
Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions?

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/4/2010 6:39:24 PM

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yeah the only thing I can suggest is icing down beforehand or waiting until he falls asleep first. and estim tends not to be affordable, I'd be surprised if you got one with nice programs and the right electrodes for under 150-200. for good ones you're looking more towards 300-400

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/5/2010 8:46:07 PM

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Basically, E-stim uses the same electrical current in the human body to stimulate muscle groups. It's original purpose was to exorcise atrophied muscle groups, but later it was used to actually work on healthy muscles. Its application in a BDSM setting can be from pleasurabe to quite painful. The process is somewhat complicated, but, you have two types of stimulus. A single pole, sort of like a general tingling sensation. Or a double pole, the typical stimulating musle sensation. Now with each, the sensation gets more painful or intense with the increase of the current, so at high settings, it can be quite painful. With double pole, you can achieve a mixture of tingling and muscular contractions, depending on where you place the contacts as well. As with all stim play, its individualistic, you need to find all the different spots on their body that hit "sweet" points. Similar to chi points, they are where the stimulus has the best effect, and where single poles work over double poles, etc. E stim can be sadistic and fun to play with, and definitely meet your needs, but you would have to know what you are doing.

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/6/2010 5:41:14 AM

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From my experience with a variety of estim accessories, I am not sure there is anything that will fit that exact effect.
I have 5 or 6 anal estim plugs and none of them will really do the prostate only. And even when my erostek 301 is in trainning mode and a higher setting, all of the plugs do give some enjoyable sensations.
however a set of cock rings and a tens unit like the erostek 301 or 302 on training settings you can control to a point of bringing the person to the point of ejeculation, and also if desired make it a semi painful or painful one at that. The cock ring attachments are pricey also but i have made them and it only costs about 5 or 10 bucks to make a set.

Thing is, the erostek units are pricey, 350 range. but the key chain remote makes it worth it.
So in summary with my personal experience with estim, i don't think there is really anything around for tens accessories(i could be wrong) that will really just milk the prostate. But using a tens unit and cock rings it can make it a painful one and take any enjoyment out of ejaculation for the male subject.

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/6/2010 5:07:54 PM

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what about using a chastity device in conjunction with a stim or is that too dangerous?

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/6/2010 8:26:39 PM

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From what I understand of the male anatomy, it can be done by using a double pole. Drawing the current through the prostrate, as in one north of it around the penis, and one south by plug. This would send the sensation between the poles, through the prostrate, and give the desired effect. The higher the setting, the faster it would "go off" I assume, depending on contact locations and pain tollerances. Unfortunately, I have no idea if this setup works, so this is only theory.

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/6/2010 8:41:48 PM

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DF I wonder if it would work better with a urethra contact probe for a more direct route between the two contacts. I have seen a few videos of hands free orgasms usually with the person using a erostek box. Granted I am not sure how well this could be done to keep sensation from being pleasant and still get the orgasm result. I have tried using a PES box and have never had any luck. I know you had an erostek box, you can send it out to me and I will try it several different ways to see what results are possible. lol

Hope you are doing well DarkFeather, long time no see. Hope you are taking care of yourself.

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/7/2010 4:31:15 AM

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Hey john doing pretty good as usual. Have both the PES and erostek. Both are finicky. As I said, you have to find the right spots on the body for each contact, or the stimulus won't have the desired effect. Each body is different, hence each muscle group reacts to current differently. one degree in placement, one inch in flex, can mean the difference between a tingle, and bone shattering contractions. As for the urethra contact, that would work as well, its all a matter of how far you want the stimulus to pass between the two poles. The tingling will go from one to the other, so as long as it goes through the prostrate, you should get the desired effect. Any farther up the penis should deliver said tingling farther up it. And the stronger the current, the more intense/painful. Similar stimulation of the g-spot can be achieved by using two poles, one inside behind said spot, and a pad placed on top. This can produce a very intense sensation when done correctly, so I imagine the same is true for men. Even more so since the male sexual organ is spread out more

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RE: E stim equipment??? - 6/7/2010 4:22:06 PM

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At one of the Black Rose Events in DC my Mistress restrained me in a cock bondage board hooked up to a Folsom PS 202 box. The sensations were pleasurable but I would not have been able to orgasm from them. One of the other Dominants hooked his EuroTec 312 box in place of our Folsom to show Us the difference. I was only on it two or three minutes, but I could have easily orgasmed if given more time. I realize You're wanting a 'no pleasure' method, but I believe this would turn into a 'no pleasure' situation after a couple orgasms. I had no control of bodily responses at all. Scotty

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