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Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 8:08:37 PM   
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I am sure we have all come across a really good obscure book or two in our time, I don't mean a best seller, but something obscure that hardly anybody has read...but that was really good. Well this thread is for sharing these little known gems.

Mine is the book I am just finishing, its called The Forgotten Soldier, by Guy Sajer. Its his memoir of WW2, where he served as a common foot soldier on the Russian front...a unique view of the war, one that is very good at conveying (as well as words can) just what it was like on the long retreat out of Russia.


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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 10:14:33 PM   
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The Main, by Trevanian. A dying, tough cop serves his own brand of justice on the mean streets of Montreal. The best character is polyglot melting pot Montreal itself - the murder mystery is secondary to the depiction.


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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 10:21:15 PM   
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Game Wars: The Undercover Pursuit of Wildlife Poachers- Marc Reisner
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Wars-Undercover-Wildlife-Poachers/dp/0140087680
Required reading at Uni for me, but I loved it. You really get behind Dave Hall and his 'Dirty Harry' approach to stopping organized poaching of wildlife... well, I did. 

ETA- Drop Zone- Michael Salazar
Awesome story of a pararescue jumper recruited for a suicide mission in Bosnia. A bit technical sometimes, but awesome writing style, engaging characters, and great plot!

ETA- Chelsea, Story of a Signal Dog- Paul Ogden
A real life look behind 'hearing ear' dogs, and the people who depend on them.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 10:48:15 PM   
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The Decameron

This is a collection of short stories by Giovanni Boccaccio.  I stumbled across a beautiful illustrated very old copy of this book years ago in a second hand book shop.  I feel happy even just holding this book


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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 10:59:11 PM   
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Well, if wanders is going to start in with the old books... The Autobiography of Bienvenuto Cellini.  Cellini is a braggart and paints a much larger that life picture of himself.  Illustrated by Salvador Dali!

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/4/2010 11:18:53 PM   
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What can I say Steven....I like old stuff


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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 12:03:01 AM   
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Oh, snap! 

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 5:49:01 AM   
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you might like Through Hell For Hitler, (Henry Mettelmann), Arpig - autobiographical tale similar to the one you mentioned, including the Russian campaign towards the Caucasus and the long retreat.  Heinrich (Henry) is a lad from Hamburg who like many others of his generation grew up with Hitler and aspired to the programmed ambitions, becoming a tank driver. The story is woven through with his growing realisation of the truth. In the end he is captured by US forces in Alsace, spends time in a camp in Arizona and then shipped home where he finds his home and family long since gone, fallen to the allied bombing campaign. He then moves to England where he has lived since.

a truly great story well told that gives us a glimpse into history and human nature in terrible circumstances.

I bought my copy at a surplus book sale - it had obviously seriously undersold the print run, which is a shame at the least. On the plus side, the BBC did a programme on it a few years ago, with Henry reading as if reminiscing and dramatic features of parts of the book so hopefully more have read it by now.

Also very good is Albert Speer's secret diary that he wrote whilst in Spandau Prison, titled Spandau; The Secret Diaries, which is a similar tale of a man coming to his senses about awful things he was caught up in, like Henry in many ways, at the inspiration of Adolf Hitler about whom he writes extensively as he realises the truth. This book is so good and engrossing that a guy who came for a 3 day session with me actually ended up reading the whole thing cover to cover and I could see I wasnt going to get any sense out of him until he'd finished!

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 6:29:32 AM   
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A book about WW2 called "The Bouncing Bomb" - its been a while since i read it, but oddly enough for me, i really enjoyed it. (not a war buff)
A movie was made out of it called "The Dam Busters". It basically is the story of how the British came up with a solution to an impossible situation. Very well written and compelling.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 6:46:30 AM   
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I am reading "I Am Ozzy", the autobiography published last year by Ozzy Osbourne. I was at the shop having my brakes serviced and took along another rock related book to read. The guy behind the counter saw me reading it and gave me the Ozzy book that another customer had left behind months ago. It's a better read than I expected from the Ozzman. He had help, sure but his recollection of events past is still pretty good considering all of the chemicals he has ingested over the years. I prefer autobiographies.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 10:38:20 AM   
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One of my more interesting non-fiction books is In Peril: A Daring Decision, a Captain's Resolve, and the Salvage that Made History by Skip Strong and Twain Braden.  An oil tanker rescued a barge that's used to ship the space shuttle's external fuel tank, during a tropical storm after the barge's tugboat broke down.

Some of the interesting parts include the legal battle between the tanker company and NASA for the salvage fees.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 12:13:49 PM   
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The The Peace War and the sequel Marooned in Realtime by Vernor Vinge.



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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 12:23:52 PM   
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I cant find it now- but a book by a homeless man - something like 3 years. 

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 12:42:59 PM   
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Arpig, I'm going to have to read that one.

I'm currently halfway through General Omar Bradley's autobiography, and that's one you should definitely pick up. I'm fascinated by the friction between us and the British during WWII. Nowhere else was it ever mentioned that we were anything but the best of friends.

Also Expanded Universes by Robert A. Heinlein. A lot of people know of his works like Starship Troopers and Stranger in a Strange Land, but Heinlein has written so much more of equal stature that haven't quite gotten the notoriety as those two books.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/5/2010 2:42:49 PM   
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I haven't read this in years, but I thought it was really good.

One day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

http://www.amazon.com/One-Day-Life-Ivan-Denisovich/dp/0451228146/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275774092&sr=1-1


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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/6/2010 12:53:14 AM   
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Elford, George R - Devil's Guard (On Amazon)

Elford, George R - Devil's Guard (Wikipedia article)

 INTRODUCTION
   
    Working in the Far East as a zoologist I met many interesting people and, occasionally, a few truly extraordinary individuals. One of them was the real author of this manuscript: Hans Josef Wagemueller, the one time SS partisan-jaeger--guerrilla hunter--who later became an officer of the French Foreign Legion in Indochina, now known as Vietnam. We met in a bar in the capital city of a small Asian nation of which he is now a citizen. He was interested in my anesthetic rifle equipment, which I was using to immobilize wild animals for scientific research.
   
    "I used to be a hunter myself," he said to me with a smile I will never forget. "I was a kopfjaeger--a 'head-hunter' as you would say in English. You hunt elephants, rhinos, tigers. I hunted the most agile of all beasts--man! You see, my adversaries were by no means any less ferocious than their counterparts in the animal world. My game could think, reason, and shoot back. The majority of them were what we now call the Vietcong. They posed as gallant freedom fighters, the redeemers of poor people. We used to call them 'the mechanized hordes of a space-age Genghis Khan.' If there was a spark of truth in the Hitlerian credo about the existence of superior and inferior races, we met the real subhumans in Indochina. They tortured and killed for the sheer pleasure of causing pain and seeing blood. They fought like a pack of rabid rats, and we treated them accordingly. We negotiated with none of them, and accepted no surrender by those who were guilty of the most horrible crimes that man or devil can conceive. We spoke to them in the only language they understood--the machine gun."
   
    The life story of Hans Josef Wagemueller is a long and unbroken record of perpetual fighting. He fought against the partisans in Russia during World War II; he spent over five years in French Indochina, fighting against what he described as "the same enemy wearing a different uniform." When that was over, he moved into a small Asian country to train its token, archaic army in the intricacies of modern warfare and the use of modern weapons. "I have managed to turn a horde of primitive, superstitious, and undisciplined warriors into a crack division of daring soldiers," he stated with pride. "You could incorporate them in any European army without further drilling."
   
    The head of state where he now lives has granted him citizenship. The local university has bestowed upon him the title Honorary Professor of Military Sciences. He is now Hindu by religion and has a local name. At the age of sixty-four, he is still going strong. His day begins with rigorous physical exercises. Target shooting is still his favorite pastime, and his steely blue eyes are still deadly accurate when looking through the gunsight.
   
    When the United States became entangled in the Vietnam conflict, Hans Josef Wagemueller offered his experience to the American High Command in a long letter that remained unanswered.
   
    "I probably made a mistake by having written a somewhat haughty and in a way maybe a bit lecturing letter," he said. "But our own long and unbroken record of victories against the same enemy in the same land was still fresh in my memory, and the unnecessary death of every American soldier, every debacle that could have been avoided, hurt me deeply. I could not think of the Vietnam war in any way except that it was my own war. Those GI's scouted the same jungle trails where we had trekked for many years. Many of them had to die where we survived. Somehow it was an inner compulsion to regard them as comrades-in-arms. And you know what? I am not surprised that young Americans are tearing up their draft cards and refusing to go to Vietnam. To take young college boys out of their super civilized surroundings and cast them into the primitive jungles of Asia is nothing but murder. Sheer murder. Only experts, highly skilled and experienced antiguerrilla fighters, can survive in the jungles of Asia. It takes at least a year of constant fighting before a recruit turns into an expert."
   
    After that evening together--which left me shaken and sleepless for the rest of the night--I asked Wagemueller if he would tell me his entire story. He obliged by talking into the microphone of a tape recorder for eighteen consecutive days. I have merely altered some of his technical military phraseology for the sake of better understanding. This is a true document with nothing essentially changed except the names. Wagemueller obliged me to keep his true identity, as well as that of all the others, undisclosed.
   
    "I am requesting this not because of my being a war criminal. I have told you the true story. I can give you my word of honor on it. I still consider myself a German officer and a German officer will keep his word of honor no matter what. But I have an eighty-seven-year-old mother whom I would never expose to endless inquiries by the authorities and by the press. And there are certain people mentioned in my story who are still living in my hometown near the Swiss frontier and who helped many other fugitive German officers to avoid prison and prosecution after the war. I do not know who the other fugitives may have been, but what I do know is that there were close to two thousand comrades in distress who left Germany the way I did in 1945. The escape route was extremely well organized and it is quite possible that some important Nazis used it too.
   
    "Another important consideration is that I should not embarrass certain high officials of my adopted country who have been helping me ever since my arrival here. Besides," he added with a smile, "I was not very popular with the Chinese People's Army--and China is not very far from here."
   
    He wants his share of the author's royalty to go to the widows and orphans of those Americans who fell in Vietnam. "I have all I need for the rest of my life. I want no money, only justice to German officers and soldiers who were correct to the core, yet had to share the disgrace of a few. And I want to show the enemy stripped of its mask of gallantry and heroic myth."
   
    I have refrained from adding any comment of my own. It is up to the reader to form his own judgment, as it is up to history to pass the final mandate upon him, his companions, and their deeds.
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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/6/2010 1:52:10 AM   
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"Play Little Victims" by Kenneth Cook
"Survive the Savage Sea" by Dougal Roberston

The first is a satirical novel about the end of the world as we know it, after which the mice take over; the second is a true story about a family whose yacht was sunk by whales in the Pacific in 1972, after which the three adults and two children and a teenager spent thirty-eight days in a liferaft before being rescued.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/6/2010 2:15:45 AM   
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I can honestly assure you that Popski's private army by V.I Peniakoff. is one of the oddest, most interesting and downright funny books about the last war ever written, it is honest, straightforward and completely addictive. I must have read it twenty times in my teens and once again with enormous pleasure last year.
It is the story of a very eccentric officer in the desert war who quite literally invented a unit of his own and ran a string of jeeps, trucks and other vehicles on long range missions , often behind German lines using supplies and fuel he more or less conned from supply depots. The troops he acquired were often oddballs other units were keen to get rid of and most of his requests for vehicles took the form of getting drunk with the right people. His experiences with the local arab communities and desert tribes are honest and funny, but his relationship with the enemy and the ideas of war make this book priceless.
He never took himself or the war very seriously and he understood that there is no such thing as military intelligence. Having read this so much at school, I absorbed a lot of the philosophy he lived by and survived my time in the marines in the sure and concrete understanding that no one really knows what they are doing.
The fact that the man went through the war never wearing a tie and wore a scarf instead tells you a lot about him. He writes about having a finger shot off by a tracer bullet during a night battle as though he was returning some socks to Marks and spencers. The private armies that these loonies formed became the long range desert group and the SAS, the current poster boys of military achievement, you can hear many of the pooch screws that these units had in their early days.
My choice of early career was nudged into the military by my reading this book, and I have regretted it ever since. My later careers were all blighted by office managers all trying to rule the roost and overawe the female talent by squash prowess or owning a Porsche as the epitome of masculine virtue, they didn't want some former grunt prowling their hen coop. I'm well past all that now, but I don't blame this book, I still love it.

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/6/2010 2:28:30 AM   
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For those who like supernatural fantasy and are just a bit fed up of the vampire snogging, may I offer the works of William Hope Hodgeson and in particular a collection of really fabulous short stories called Carnacki the ghost finder, which, while inspired heavily by Sherlock Holmes are original, clever, very well written and in some parts, effectively scary. The writer himself died young and led the strangest life of anyone I've ever heard of. I did not note the name of the website but if you google him there is a site with lots of the weirdest photos of  young edwardian man I have ever seen, well worth the time.
He also wrote the House on the Borderland, which is the most melancholy story ever written, I don't suggest reading that if you are down in the dumps.
My Mum read all these stories while on gas and air in labour with my younger brother and said they were more effective at taking her mind off things than drugs, so read with care!

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RE: Obscure book recommendations... - 6/6/2010 4:14:23 AM   
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"the bird is a raven" and "crazy", both by Bejamin Lebert. "crazy" is a biographical, cripple modern-day German version of "catcher in the rye"-also a very good read. "the bird is a raven" is a bit of a dark suspense story of two people sharing a travel car on the train. they are both short books( 200 pages max) but they pack alot into them. "crazy" is written semi-like a journal's account of the events. a very simplistic style of writing, which i appreciate in the biographical account versions of books because you can get more inside of the writer's mind and expierence. "the bird is a raven" is written in the same manner", even though its fiction. i recommend both.

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