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High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/9/2010 9:11:12 PM   
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Before asking for help, I went under search and read for over two hours, as well as read several articles from WebMD, but I didn't find out what I need to know.
 
I've scened with diabetics and asthmatics, but not with someone who has high blood pressure, but controlled through medication.  When someone subspaces, I don't trust their judgment anymore and I need to know what I'm dealing with.
 
So...any words of advice?  Potential problems, and what to do if a problem arises.  What will be the signs that there is a problem?  I have an RN neighbor, but she's not kinky so I'd rather not ask her opinion just yet.
 
Will I always have to keep things mild to prevent his blood pressure from rocketing up? 
 
Almost 4 years ago I had someone very restrained when he had trouble breathing...I hadn't been aware of a mold allergy he had and I'd turned on the air conditioner so he wouldn't overheat.  I didn't have to call an ambulance, but I was very close to doing so.  His asthma medication handled the problem. 
 
I look forward to hearing advice, thanks in advance.
 
 
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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/10/2010 5:19:37 AM   
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I wouldn't do a long hot tub scene, but other than that, you're good to go. I'm hypertensive, on my meds, and that's the only thing that ever caused me to black out.

Probably not a good idea to force feed him handfuls of salt either.


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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/10/2010 5:50:58 AM   
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Until you and he are familure with how he will react you could take his pressure at regular interveals. There are some very small wrist cuffs that will interfere minimaly. As for signs of a problem he should know what they are as well as what to do if his pressure gets out of control. If he does not know these things he needs to speak with his doctor for his everyday safety as well as his dealings with you. If there is ever any doubt dial 911.

Adding: Only take his pressure 3 x on each wrist or arm. To do so more in a short period could give false results or cause a little harm to the vessels that are compressed.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/10/2010 2:55:41 PM   
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I wouldn't do a long hot tub scene, but other than that, you're good to go. I'm hypertensive, on my meds, and that's the only thing that ever caused me to black out.

<Does a Snoopy Dance and crosses hot tubs off her list.>
This is very good to hear.  With diabetics, I've bought glucose tabs and kept them in my bag, just in case.  Other meds were on the dresser or in the small fridge. 
 
I have a vanilla friend who lives in another town who is diabetic and has high blood pressure, and seems to have a lot of problems because of these.  When he visits, I can't cook anything with pork...like shredded pork roast in tortillas...or else his blood pressure soars.  When he sleeps over, it's upright on the couch (he's grown to prefer this as he finally gets a good night's sleep without waking up about a hundred times) because it cut down on his snoring and reflux.  This long time friend (not a lover) also has sleep apnea (when someone stops breathing for minutes, then wakes up fighing for breath)...I have witnessed it...but he won't tell his doctor or go to get tested at some sleep clinic.  I was worried about his blood pressure spiking because of this, and we compromised about the couch. 
 
At his own home, he now sleeps upright on a couch with his legs raised.  He's a vanilla friend, and I can't force him to see a doctor over this, so I know how stubborn some men can be.  I haven't heard him stop breathing since the chainsaw snoring stopped when he started sleeping while sitting up.  When he phones me, probably some time this week, I'll listen more carefully to the problems he gets from having high blood pressure, and if the meds with exercize ever cause his BP to drop too low and give him problems from that.  I know he's on a water pill, and has to take either potassium or some other mineral in a pill to keep his heart safe while taking water pills. 
 
I'm just a little impatient, wanting to know everything ASAP, lol, so thanks for responding so quickly so I can get my paranoia under control.  Years ago, when I was around 20, my boyfriend had a heart attack while we were *together* and was in denial about it, and wouldn't allow me to call 911 or an ambulance.  He wanted to stay home.  I had to go behind his back and phone his older brother who came ASAP and helped me drag him to the hospital.  Because of this, I worried about scene intensity and high blood pressure and I can't get this info from vanillas.

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Probably not a good idea to force feed him handfuls of salt either.

I checked with him and he's not salt sensitive, but I have a lot more to learn before I'm satisfied.  One of the past threads had a post by sirsholly that mentioned workers in an Emergency Room referring to Gatoraide as "The Bottled Heart Attack."  If someone's on high blood pressure meds, they're likely to be on water pills, which may mess with someone's potassium levels.  Especially if they've forgotten to take the potassium pill or eat a kiwi or banana or whatever.  If he's spaced out with his brain offline, I don't want to cause any harm through ignorance.
 
I don't want to turn to the sub I'm very <WEG> interested in for all of this information just yet, as we had a moment this past week when he asked me if...I were writing some paper and he was my lab rat.  I just prefer to get to know everything I can about someone who interests me, and so I talk a lot and listen a lot.  
 
Btw, he did volunteer to be my lab rat  if that's what I needed from him.
 
Thank you, DesFIP.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/10/2010 3:21:31 PM   
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Until you and he are familure with how he will react you could take his pressure at regular interveals. There are some very small wrist cuffs that will interfere minimaly.

Good idea, I didn't know about teeny cuffs that are a little bigger than a watch band until now.  I just got off the phone with a r/t friend of mine, rose (arosendark1978), and she just told me that her father uses one of these.  She will find out for me the name and brand he uses, and price, if not the link itself. 

My friend with the high blood pressure picked up a cuff some years back and I tried to learn to use it...but was completely incompetent.  Every time I did it gave me a completely different reading and I didn't know about limiting the tries on one arm to 3.  My incompetence didn't leave any visible bruising though, so that's the only good point.   

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As for signs of a problem he should know what they are as well as what to do if his pressure gets out of control.
I believe I will go to my doctor and ask for a pamphlet on this as well.  My first aid book might not have survived that last move.  It would be interesting if there was an online first aid site.  I'll also spend more time reading at WebMD.

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If he does not know these things he needs to speak with his doctor for his everyday safety as well as his dealings with you. If there is ever any doubt dial 911. 
I don't doubt his competence, only my own.  If I had high blood pressure and had spent time bottoming for someone else, then I would have the knowledge through experience to feel competent.  And, yes of course about the 911.

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Adding: Only take his pressure 3 x on each wrist or arm. To do so more in a short period could give false results or cause a little harm to the vessels that are compressed. 
I didn't know about this either.  Thank you, GraciousLady.

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Sir'sHolly please answer this... - 6/10/2010 5:39:19 PM   
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One of the past threads had a post by sirsholly that mentioned workers in an Emergency Room referring to Gatoraide as "The Bottled Heart Attack."


What did this mean please? HM drinks lots of this stuff...

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RE: Sir'sHolly please answer this... - 6/10/2010 5:43:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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One of the past threads had a post by sirsholly that mentioned workers in an Emergency Room referring to Gatoraide as "The Bottled Heart Attack."


What did this mean please? HM drinks lots of this stuff...


I exist but to please... http://www.collarchat.com/m_3147604/mpage_1/key_gatorade/tm.htm#3147626


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High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 1:15:47 AM   
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xxblushesxx, sorry I mentioned the quote without posting where I read it in the message archives. 
 
DarkSteven, thank you for hunting that up.

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I talked with my friend who has diabetes and high blood pressure, and...there are those of you in these message boards who know more than he does.  I'm afraid the doof takes his meds like aspirin, every few days if he feels like it.  Same goes for the potassium.  I doubt I'll learn anything from him other than the symptoms he feels when things aren't going right. 
 
*sighs*  Which should be often.
 

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 1:22:40 AM   
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I've never had to deal with HBP but will say this... Do what ever is necessary to get it under control... My younger brother permanently lost the sight in his right eye 3 weeks ago due to high blood pressure. It effects more things then most people are aware of.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 1:23:02 AM   
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I believe that there is a common misconception about BP. First of all, when guys were doing battle with swords and knives all day long, what do you imagine their BP would be? Or during sex, especially at climax. If blood pressure was expected to be constant, there would have to be no stimulus in the world.

Now the resting BP is another story, and it's sequel, how long does it take to go down ? I believe that most really healthy athletes can withstand several times the norm. However that does not mean on a sustained basis. Think of your veins as plastic, what would cause a varicose vein for example ? Well it can be one of two things. One would be extremely high BP and the other would be weakness in the makeup of said veins. Which it is would be a more subjective matter than most see.

So one's overall health is involved. If you climb a whole bunch of stairs and check your BP it will be up. How long it takes to come down is the issue as well as how much it went up. This has to do with the overall efficiency of your cardiopulminary system. And what alot of people don't see is that the two are practically inseperable.

That part of the body is charged with the task of delivering O2 to the cells. Adrenaline like hormones put it into passing gear. You can't stay in passing gear forever. It's when the efficiancy goes down to the point where it is operating in passing gear for too long a period that gives us problems. The cardiopulminary system primarily responds to O2 content in the blood. To see if there is a real problem requires a stress test, which may entail walk or running on a treadmill or whatever with a breathing apparatus that measures your actual O2 conversion rate overall. Even with such exacting parameters for the test, interpreting the result is not child's play.

For example the BP will go up of course, and they will measure the CO2 content. They will also minitor heart rate as well as BP and respiration rate. The BP will go up, but what is the spread between systoic and diastolic ? How much did the heart rate go up ? How much did the respiration rate go up ? Were the breaths deeper ?

In the end it is all a bunch of numbers they have to crunch, and even if they do, what would their recommendation be ? Do what instead ? Actually this is where the real brain comes in.

For example, if you are fighting your way out of a bar back to back, fists only, I think your BP might hit 600/300. For the short time of the incident it should not be a problem. Should not. But if it stays up, that is a problem. Pressure like that is likely to dilate the strongest arteries and veins.

And, my friends, one of the most widely used class of drugs to alleviate hypertension are vasodilators. The are bad news because the work bt literally weakening the vein walls. Then there are blood thinners, which pretty much make you at least partially hemphiliac.

Do you really want either ? I don't.

Solutions ? The only thing comes to mind right now is to adjust your food intake to shift your sodium intake from table salt to natural sources. Imagine my surprise when I found out that sodium defifiency can cause hypertension. That led me on a certain path. I am not turning now, despite my apparent failure, I think I have suvived something that would kill most people.

In other words, I had lost a bit of faith in myself, but after hearing outside account of just how bad it was, alot of thing I have forgotten, I am not so sure I failed.

That's all I got for two cents today, I need to go bother someone somewhere.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 1:59:14 AM   
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jbcurious, this is such a coincidence...I just returned from another thread with a clicky of yours and...clicked, lol. 
 
I don't have high blood pressure; having it shoot up when I'm in pain doesn't count.  A male sub I'm interested in has the high blood pressure, and he's very good with his meds, but since I react this way to pain I wonder if he will too, and I have a lot of concerns about this.  I don't want to be paddling or flogging him and have him go blind in one eye or worse.
 
I am sorry to hear about your brother.  It's sad, but maybe because of this he will become a lot more careful and will live years longer than if his eye hadn't been harmed.  I'm glad it wasn't a stroke brought on by high blood pressure, but I'm sure that's no consolation to him right now.
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About my vanilla friend, I've known him for over 18 years and he can't help having a naturally low IQ.  (He was tested, and labeled high functioning retarded.)  It took me years to get him to be tested specifically for diabetes, and I was right, he tested positive.  He visits me once every 1-3 months for the weekend, and whenever he comes, he buys a gallon of apple juice and a 2 liter sugary bottle of grape soda pop and guzzles it all down.  You don't want to hear about all the Little Debbie type cakes and doughnuts and stuff.  When I start nagging him, he says he doesn't eat that way when he's at home, so it's all right; also he tells me that his doctor says he's doing fine, and tells me to get off his case. 
 
My friend is muleheaded and I can talk myself blue in the face before he will listen, then a week later say that we never talked about this.  He didn't listen to me about his blood pressure either, until he was feeling badly all the time. 
 
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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 2:25:56 AM   
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lol...I thought I deleated that attachment... Oh well a few more posts and the page will be gone.

You're right in that the loss of his vision may have saved his life, he was fairly careless about his diet and indulged in way too many salty snacks... Sometimes it takes a hell of a wakeup call before people pay attention.

I hope your friend gets it before he has some damage that can't be reversed.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 2:50:50 AM   
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Hello Termyn8or  :)
 
My own blood pressure only goes up when I'm in pain, after I've used my asthma inhaler or something similar in pill form, as well as the usual through exertion, etc.  It's temporary, and doesn't worry me.  I am worried about the intensity of a scene when the submissive has high blood pressure that has been controlled by meds.
 
I agree with you that BP is just part of a whole system that could be unhealthy or off whack and should be dealt with as part of a whole.  A lot of what you said my ADD couldn't grasp, but I'm trying. 
 
I didn't know that being low in salt could also trigger high blood pressure.  As for myself, during summer months I have to add more salt into my diet (doctor's orders) or my BP drops too low for me and I get nausea, a migraine, then see black and red blotches before my eyes and the room starts tipping.  I also take a 99 mg pill of potassium (3% USRDA), and a little magnesium. 

I have no clue why relatively thin people have high blood pressure and I don't.  I'm the one who would deserve it.

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I am not turning now, despite my apparent failure, I think I have suvived something that would kill most people

I don't see something as failure, if we try and it doesn't work and we make changes.  Tossing out the salt shaker was supposed to be good for me, and instead I ended up with a doctor telling me that my body needed more...and he was right.  I'm so glad he questioned my diet and all the water I glugged down, instead of shoving prescription pills at me.  Pills are a last resort, but when someone needs them...it's like birth control pills, either take all of them on time or you're in trouble.
 
I'm glad you pulled through.  I need to get back to my reading on that subject but I've been distracted recently. It's good you have people to remind you how bad things were so you can see how your health has improved bit by bit. 

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That's all I got for two cents today, I need to go bother someone somewhere.
You are never a bother.  Thanks for taking so much of your time out to post some info to me.
 
I might struggle to understand what you're trying to tell me because I battle with mild dyslexia and have an attention deficit problem (just think blonde, and who inspired those jokes; that was me in my 20's), but I enjoy talking with you anyway.  I have a devilish hard time remembering people's names and keeping numbers in my head. 
 
Wasn't that your post in the archives that mentioned people peeing out potassium when their blood registers as short of it, because the body might lack another mineral (magnesium?) to process it? 
 
I looked up magnesium shortage in a homeopathic book and it's supposed to trigger migraines.  My son and I get them all the time, sometimes 24/7 for months at a time.  Since I started taking a little magnesium, they're gone.  If one starts up, it's because I'm low again.  I've been able to toss out my ibuprophen.  I agree with you on trying to see the big picture instead of narrowing the vision to just one tiny piece of the puzzle.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 3:06:21 AM   
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jbcurious, I've seen more cleavage hanging out at beaches, and the string bikini tops were nowhere near as lovely as that lacey bra you were wearing.  I'm sure some guys here agree that...some pix are art
 
About my friend, he told me that he's had some uh...consequences.  His girlfriend is complaining because he's having a lot of erectile problems.  I don't know if the damage was done from the diabetes, the high BP, or blood pressure meds. 
 
I warn guys to take care of their diabetes, or they're going to lose something very important.  My ex-husband listened and is very careful to control his blood sugar...he and his wife have 4 kids...

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 9:12:24 AM   
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"A lot of what you said my ADD couldn't grasp, but I'm trying. 
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Well maybe you understand slower, but you might understand better. Kinda like he who laughs last laughs best.

About the magnesium, I'd have to get to my other PC to find that database, and literally change to my other drive. My folks were using my laptop for their internet but it got stolen, I don't want them on my media "super PC" but I hav the smaller drive that came with it which I cloned onto a 500GB. Now I let people use it, but only on that drive. How's that for virus protection ? The thing isn't even plugged in !

But if you can come up with an email on the other side that can take attachments, a small ZIP fie with a bunch of HTM files in it, I can send you some fantastic info on minerals. There is no hidden code or anything, virus, nothing of that nature, I know because I have seen, and in fact manipulated some of the source code. Basic HTML, that is all.

It's alot of reading, but it is worth the effort IMO. It REALLY makes sense. In the magnesium section it will probably have a paragraph on toxicity, as well as possible source of toxicity etc. Well footnoted and with cites to valid medical journals. It would be almost Ken's Bible on the subject because it is quite welll backed up. It was a "sample" of a book published in Austrailia. Well I sampled it LOL. Of course you can't get it anymore.

The mineral thing is complex to thte point that when I thought I had learned most of it, I found that I knew less of it than I thought. Looking at the bigger picture I find that we need a certain what I term "mineral signature" in our diet. Each in proportion to all the others. That document does not deal with the trace minerals, only the chief ones which are considered essential.

The weekend will come and I will chnge drives back to the big one. Whether I send it or not, I will look at the database when it comes to magnesium and see if there is anything pertiant to headaches.

Gotta go work now. More later.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 12:50:52 PM   
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Look for a letter in your mailbox here, as I'm sending my frontiernet email addy.  (Edited:  Termyn8or, in one of my old letters, I posted my yahoo email addy.  If you can't find it, I'll send my frontiernet or post it to you again.  Have to get offline now.  Back to you on this later, sorry.)
 
I've been wondering about our diets having less of the right minerals in them and having more yucky heavy metals.  My family tree likes to store aluminum in the brain, lovely isn't it?  I took a magnet to all my cookware and utensils, and if I found aluminum I donated it.  I wish I also had a copper pot...
 
I know my ancestors boiled down bones...but honestly, YUCK, lol.  Not that it's safe to do this anymore, unless the animal is organic.  Found out that even bone meal pills could have heavy metals in them...because these were in the animal's bones.  I have bad memories of swallowing a fish bone after a large meal, and then being forced to eat half a loaf of white bread by my father, so it's very difficult for me to even eat soft fish bones from canned fish like salmon.  (Even fish has to be limited because of the mercury.) 
 
Reminds me of...cat food tuna, too.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/11/2010 4:14:47 PM   
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I have a tweak in my nervous system so the arteries in my legs don't clamp down when I stand up, mostly when I'm low in salt.  I get the similar symptoms...almost pass out when I stand up and start walking.  The cure is pretzels and lots of water.
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Hello Termyn8or  :)

I didn't know that being low in salt could also trigger high blood pressure.  As for myself, during summer months I have to add more salt into my diet (doctor's orders) or my BP drops too low for me and I get nausea, a migraine, then see black and red blotches before my eyes and the room starts tipping.

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/12/2010 9:09:24 AM   
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Cynthia, I have a tenet by which to live, but it is very hard to do. First, it in it's original form :

Your body will crave what it needs.

Now here comes the problem. Via manipulated flavors, coloring, textures an so forth they have thrown this process off. You can only see this when you have cast this off, as I have. You see without sugar for twenty years, alot went with it. Even my twenty buck a pound naturally harvested unrefined sea salt, I use it rarely. I have actually learned to taste food again. I eat burgers really rare, and there is only one store in town that has hamburber meat that is acceptable.

You might think it would be at a midway place like Giant Eagle or whatever, or a high end plce like Heinen's or something, but no. It's at Save-a-lot, an arab joint down in little Puerto Rico down here. That meat tastes like meat is supposed to taste, and surprisingly does not break the bank. When I eat meat I want it untouched by anything but fire and salt. And not much salt at that. I detest BBQ sauce. I haven't used catsup in ten years and mustard is coming up, that I only use it in a few things.

I don't eat perfect, usually in the morning before work I'll have a burrito and kill it with hot sauce, OK, but that's a shitty two buck burrito. Actually they're not that bad, having shredded in instead of ground beef, and not full of beans and whatnot. So when it is a prepared food I have no problem smothering it with a condiment, but when it is meat, I want to taste meat. I have also had rare pork and chicken which scares the hell out of some people, but I think you know me better than that. Actually I would probably eat that shit raw if I know where it comes from.

The way I see it there are certain things to do to control BP. One, if you like salt and can't get the stuff I got, which is twenty bucks a pound now, at least get Kosher salt, the kind with the warning that it will clump up on you. What makes table salt not clump up is exactly what makes it bad for you. Common fucking sense, your body is mostly water. Salt clumps up because it absorbs water. Salt that doesn't clump up cannot be utilized properly in the body. Therefore you can put Morton's on everything you eat and die of a sodium deficiency. In fact a little known fact is that salt companies such as Morton's make more money off of what they refine out of the salt than the sale of the table salt itself. Mind that by weight this is a very small portion, but it is more valuable by many orders of magnitude.

But people have the mind of sheep usually. I can get whole milk, well almost which would be 3.5% or so butterfat, and then I can get 2%. Do the math, why don't I just get the thick shit and add water. People will say "it's different". Well it sure as hell is. If you have ever seen the drawer side of a business desk you know they are selling what they take out of that 2% milk. And simple math tells that the price is not commensurate of that, so they are making money both ways.

An in depth study of the whole situation reveals something, that thing that rears it's ugly head in almost every aspect of one's life. Money. The fact is that nobody gives a shit about your health. I mean noboby, not the FDA, USDA, WHO, not social security, nor your doctor or whoever. Your lawyer might care as long as you owe him money. (there's that word again). It is so hard to explain this level of greed to people who are not greedy. Of course all this points to a grand conspiracy, but it is not. It is cooperation. They cooperate to make the most money possible, and that is also in the hopes that we all wind up in nursing homes so they take all our houses and shit to eliminate inheritance among the masses. That is one of the planks of the Communis Manifesto, all of which have been implemented in this country.

But I don't want to get political on this issue, only to point out how the addiction to money known as greed has influenced this issue. The subject of health and basically where it went was quite the field of study for me, and I kept running into money as part of the equation. My concluion after ten or so years ? Act like a dog.

You might think it's a fucking joke but it is not. Eat dog food, in fact puppy chow. When you get sick, go to the vet. I know it's illegal but you know how much illegal means to me ?

Let me pose you a question, just to illustrate how this whole situation got instrumented somehow. You have a vet, licensed to work on animals. You have doctors licensed to work on humans. It is not legal, nor seemingly acceptable for most to have a vet work on humans. Of course the normal perception of this is that they lack the skill level. At least that is the prima facie reason. It is similarly unnaceptable for a doctor to work on an animal. Why ? Fleas ? Bullshit, some people have fleas. The table is cleaned after every "patient". Disinfectant is prime in that setting. And would you rather sit on something after a nice healthy German sheperd pup about to get his nut cut or a bum with scurvy, the runs, AIDS and who knows what else who hasn't bathed in years ?

So I will put it in my Saturday vernacular - I really have rethunk everything. I've found this to yield me a very unique perspective, and indeed if I could go to a vet rather than a doctor, I would. And sadly, one of the top reasons for that is because the doctor makes money when his patients get sick and die. The vet does not, he makes more when his patients live long and remain in good health. And that, like everything else in life, seems to come back to the fucking almighty buck.

So much for that right now, thuis is Saturday and I want to go fuck with someone, here or elsewhere. Now if Ken shows up in this thread fine, but for now I don't see much opportunity here :-)

T

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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/12/2010 4:34:55 PM   
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Don't know about the meds , but hypertension and diabetes definitely do cause ED.
Plus just google hypertension and exercise. BDSM play is just heavy exercise. Temporarily depletes a lot of body chemicals, releases endorphins etc. So anything recommended for marathoners or triathletes will be applicable.


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RE: High blood pressure, controlled through meds - 6/13/2010 3:16:03 AM   
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Wow, maybe this is part of my problem.  I was born in Dayton and most of my family live in Ohio...and if this thing is a genetic weakness that might pop up, my gene pool comes from there.   During all night long driving trips, I used to get all wonky when mom packed me iced tea.  When I turned her down and insisted on buying juice or soda, and nursed along a bag of pretzels, I did fine.  It's been so long since I've driven to Florida or Texas or New Jersey, so it's something to remember.
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The anti-caking agent in salt is a form of aluminum.  I've been wanting to eliminate that from my diet as much as possible...and Kosher salt might be the answer I was looking for.  I'll check the stores when by tomorrow. 
 
I've got two books by Kevin Trudeau, so some of what you say sounds very familiar.  I've disliked and been suspicious of how much our food supply has been tweaked.  I wanted to buy my milk at an Alta Dena, but though we had one in California we don't have one here in WV.
 
LOL about wanting to enjoy a battle of wills...good luck in finding Ken.  <grins>
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Thank you!  I never thought to Google hypertension and exercize, or info for marathoners, etc.  (If there's a word that means the opposite of a computer geek, I'm it.) 

I knew you all wouldn't let me down.  Thanks, everyone.

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