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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 5:41:41 AM   
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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 5:41:55 AM   
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BTW-
Sex-Starved Marriages - Women Struggle to Cope With Spouses' Low Sex Drives - an ABC news stories about wives who have husbands with low sex drives. According to this story men tend to not discuss their low libidos.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990260/posts


This is not about general population, this is study focused on men who have problems with their libido.
I could also find a study focused only on frigid women.

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Men have a greater sex drive than women. Generally speaking, guys between the ages of 17 and 25 are juiced up on testosterone and have pretty impressive sex drives. “But when you’re talking about all men,” says Dr. Davidson, “the difference in sex drives between individuals is much greater than the difference in sex drives between sexes.”


Yes, individual differences are greater than gender differences - but statistically - men still have greater sex drive than women - especially in my age group (17 to 25) - as your study already says. So, this is actually argument in favor of my claim.

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Myth: Males have stronger sex drives and are more interested in sex than females.
Fact: The female's sex drive is just as strong as the male's. Society has traditionally allowed males to express their interest in sex more openly, however.
http://www.agnr.umd.edu/nnfr/adolsex/fact/adolsex_myths.html


OK, this is one respectable source - but it still supports my other claim - that women are more sexually repressed than men. I said it in the beginning. Edited to ad: even this source is not very respectable, I concluded after reading some of its other politically correct claims. Its main purpose is to promote sex safety among teens.

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And according to Feminist for free expression half of all adult videos are rented or bought by women.
http://www.ffeusa.org/html/statements/statements_pornography.html


This is absolutely impossible claim. BTW, I don't believe ideologically influenced sources. And feminism is ideology.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:16:53 AM   
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OK SN: don't believe me, don't believe other women, don't believe the facts.  Believe the lie you tell yourself to get you through the day.

The real reason why you can't get any is because women have such low sex drives..   Yeah....... that's what it is.   It has nothing to do with you  or your own sexual inadequacies.  Keep believing it. 
Excuse me I have an appt with my vibrator.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:26:06 AM   
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...the straight pro male doms I have heard of are mostly in LA, New York, and Philly. The numbers are not huge, but females pay for scenes with these "eye candy" male doms.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:26:43 AM   
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The real reason why you can't get any is because women have such low sex drives..


No, women in my age group really have lower sex drives than men, but this is not the reason why I don't get women.
The reason is that I am not very good seducer and I have my own insecurities and shyness and I don't make enough effort.
That is the reason. But I still believe that women usually have lower sex drive than men, especially young women.
Women from 35 to 45 actually have stronger sex drive than men.

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It has nothing to do with you  or your own sexual inadequacies.  Keep believing it. 


I am not sexually inadequate, I am just shy and insecure like A LOT of young men.
It has to do with my lack of dating skills and lack of self confidence, but it has nothing to do with my sexual inadequacies.

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Excuse me I have an appt with my vibrator.


Enjoy! I'll use my right hand for the same purpose!


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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:44:49 AM   
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You better wash it before you shake my hand mister or I'll be forced to rip yer bloody arm orff.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:52:27 AM   
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You better wash it before you shake my hand mister or I'll be forced to rip yer bloody arm orff.


OK, wash it, this is something that goes by default, BTW my cock is not dirty, I take shower regularly.


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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 6:54:54 AM   
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3. Women's sexual inclinations are more complicated than men's.4. Women's sex drives are more influenced by social and cultural factors.5. Women take a less direct route to sexual satisfaction.6. Women experience orgasms differently than men.
http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare

I think these aspects are much bigger factors than over-all sex drive. For many women, sex without an emotional connection is unsatisfying, though there are plenty of exceptions who do have casual sex. I disagree that society has the same degree of pressure you describe for women to repress their sexuality, but there is a huge cultural message that if a woman "has to pay for it" (ie. it's not that she's having lots of sex or doing BDSM and choosing to anyway) that she must be really ugly and undesirable. There isn't nearly as much social baggage associated with a man paying for sex or BDSM.

There's a joke that when it comes to sex, men are microwaves, and women are pressure cookers. Guys are a lot quicker to get "done," while women need to build up over time, and tend to keep going longer. Of course, there are plenty of individual exceptions. Mood, how busy they are with other things, and how happy they are with their partner tends to affect a woman's libido more than a man's, in both positive and negative ways.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 8:42:24 AM   
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Since you make the claim again.... could you pony up a decent research study from the past five years that contains these stats?


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Sex Drive: How Do Men and Women Compare? Experts say men score higher in libido, while women's sex drive is more "fluid."
I will copy just the main points:
1. Men think more about sex.2. Men seek sex more avidly.3. Women's sexual inclinations are more complicated than men's.4. Women's sex drives are more influenced by social and cultural factors.5. Women take a less direct route to sexual satisfaction.6. Women experience orgasms differently than men.7. Women's libidos seem to be less amenable to drugs.for the rest see:
http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare








"Sexual desire in women is extremely sensitive to environment and context," says Edward O. Laumann, PhD, a professor of sociology at the University of Chicago and lead author of a major survey of sexual practices, The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States.

From the webmd source.

Published 1994.

This survey of sexual practices in the United States has been combed by the media for items of interest to the public: monogamous sex is much more widespread in this country than has been thought; infidelity is less frequent than presumed; vaginal intercourse is the defining experience of heterosexual behavior; watching one's partner undress is stimulating to many people; married couples have more sex than single people (unmarried, cohabiting couples have the most sex of all); the majority of couples experience sex twice a week to several times a month; 2.8% of men identify themselves as homosexual and 1.4% of women do so, but a higher percentage of people consider a same-gender experience to have some appeal; 75% of men always experience orgasm compared with 28.6% of women, but more nearly equal numbers of men and women declare themselves satisfied with their sexual experiences.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/273/8/675

that is just an exerpt i found on Jama.

The title of this essay takes liberties with the title of a book published in 1994. Sex in America, subtitled A Definitive Survey, is one of a pair of books, the other of which is entitled The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States.1 The two books are the outcomes of a set of surveys conducted over a seven-month period in 1992 by the National Opinion Research Center (NORC), an organization devoted to quantitative social science research. Taken together, the two books purport to tell "a true story about sex, based on scientifically accurate survey data" that was collected by 220 professional interviewers (S, p. 1).

The liberty I have taken with the title of Sex in America is to superimpose the international sign of prohibition over the operative noun sex. By this graphical alteration I do not mean to suggest that the thesis of these books is that there is no sex in America, much less that there should be no sex in America. On the contrary, the authors state their conclusions clearly in both books: Americans are having lots of sex, but what their survey "definitively" shows is that the sex Americans are having is with "people who are remarkably like ourselves--in age, race or ethnicity, and education" (S, p. 44).2 The reason for this, the authors assert, is that what most of us imagine to be our most intimate behavior, driven by our most private fantasies, is actually determined by social factors that are just as regular, and therefore just as measurable, as are rates of birth, death, and suicide. Once we have "the facts about Americans' sexual practices" (S, p. 1), the authors claim, we can see that sex is just another social phenomenon that conforms to the same kind of laws that make social scientific research possible in the first place.

The sex that the authors of this study found in America, then, is curiously both what political and religious conservatives always thought sex should be and not at all what they feared it had become. That is, according to this survey, American sex is heterosexual, potentially reproductive intercourse with people who are like ourselves (in every sense except gender), and it is not transgressive or dangerous in any way. This explains why the authors of Sex in America state that their findings are "counterrevolutionary" (S, p. 25). It also explains my graphical alteration to the title of the more popular book: I wanted to represent sex both ways, as simply what conservatives think it "should" be and as an admonitory reminder of that other, prohibited incarnation that it seemed to have, but has not really, become.3 Of course, depicting sex as always already under erasure fails to explain why the authors of Sex in America represent their study as a necessary exercise in cultural therapy, much less why the U.S. government first wanted to sponsor and then decided to defund a survey about sex. If there was no sexual revolution, then how can this survey be "counterrevolutionary"? And in what sense have Americans been injured such that these writers can now offer a cure? If there was no sexual revolution, then why did the federal government initially consider a sex survey worthy of federal support? And if sex momentarily seemed like a matter of national concern, then why did the government subsequently decide not to fund a survey about sex?



http://www.uchicago.edu/research/jnl-crit-inq/issues/v24/v24n2.poovey.html

A government paid, then defunded, survery... hmmm.

Now, take into consideration that these questions asked for the survey were asked of women who were born in the 40's and 50's and that most didnt peak sexually until the 80's and were still dealing with their driving hormones on the 90's while in the back of their minds have the stereotypical notion that women did not enjoy sex.

So, yes, your source while it may be factual for some medical advice, not to be overshadowed by a Physician, is circumspect for having this as their primary source for their evidence about libido in regards to the sexes.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 8:43:26 AM   
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He whistles, and folks come running.......what's up with that?

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 8:45:07 AM   
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I guess its because we feel sorry for him, a sexually repressed 23 year old who knows nothing about women, life or the lifestyle, yet spouts off beliefs like they are facts.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 8:52:52 AM   
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You better wash it before you shake my hand mister or I'll be forced to rip yer bloody arm orff.


OK, wash it, this is something that goes by default, BTW my cock is not dirty, I take shower regularly.



Yeah you'd have to actually USE IT for that to happen. You don't have sex, but yet you claim to be an expert because you read....that's just ridiculous. Take a look around you. Do you really honestly believe that women are this poor pathetic creature you always paint in your head? Anyone can find a study to say what they believe exists. That doesn't make it true. LIFE is my study and that study has shown me that you are an incompetent fool that sits behind a screen and hides and comes up with ridiculous half-baked theories to keep you safe. You're not safe, you're just sad, stop trying to paint us all as sad as you are.

My libido has been higher than any guy I've EVER dated since I was 15. All the women answering here have said basically the same thing. Stop reading wikipedia and LISTEN.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:14:25 AM   
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My libido has been higher than any guy I've EVER dated since I was 15.


Great for you, but just a small part of data in the statistics.
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Do you really honestly believe that women are this poor pathetic creature you always paint in your head?


No, I don't think that women are poor pathetic creatures because, on average, their sex drive is a bit less intense than in men, with exception of women who are from 35 to 45 and who usually have stronger sex drive then men in the same age group. It has nothing to do with being poor or pathetic. It only has to do with biology.
Nor I think that they are poor pathetic creatures because patriarchal society used to oppress them (and sometimes still does) - it only speaks about backward society and has nothing to do with women being poor pathetic creatures.

The only thing that really is poor and pathetic is the fact that some people use the fact that I mentioned some studies and some results in totally neutral tone to be offended personally and to start insulting me and talking about my personal life in negative way.

I didn't insult anyone here, especially not women, and I think that intensity of sex drive has nothing to do with anyone's worth or value.
Also, I think that statistics about what is general tendency has nothing to do with sex drive in particular persons. That's why, despite general tendency, you have extremely intensive sex drive. Also, you are 43. In age group from 35 to 45 women usually have stronger sex drive than men.

I used statistics in order to try do explain why there is almost no male "dominatrices".

I will repeat my answer.

There are 3 main reasons why there is an extremely small number of male sex workers who have female clientele (this includes, Pro Doms, gigolos, phone sex operators, etc)

1. Because women generally have a little bit less intense sex drive than men.
2. Because the society generally represses women sexually more than it represses men.

And the most important reason:
3. Because women can  get sex waaay more easily without paying anything. The only thing a woman has to do to get sex is just to ask for it. There are plenty of men who are more than willing to fulfill her request. At the same time, men, usually have to make great efforts and to fulfill numerous conditions in order to get laid. That's why some of them choose to pay for it instead. Even ugly women can get laid easier than men - for every ugly woman there is an ugly man more than willing to fuck her, especially if he drank few beers beforehand.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:17:18 AM   
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3. Because women can get sex waaay more easily without paying anything. The only thing a woman has to do to get sex is just to ask for it. There are plenty of men who are more than willing to fulfill her request. At the same time, men, usually have to make great efforts and to fulfill numerous conditions in order to get laid. That's why some of them choose to pay for it instead. Even ugly women can get laid easier than men - for every ugly women there is an ugly men more than willing to fuck her, especially if he drank few beers beforehand.


Something i pointed out pages ago, SN. its not that original an idea. Women dont have to pay for it because there are always men willing to give it away. It has nothing to do with libido. Women got what men want. Call it supply and demand. I can supply it.. so i can demand it.

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I didn't insult anyone here, especially not women, and I think that intensity of sex drive has nothing to do with anyone's worth or value.
Also, I think that statistics about what is general tendency has nothing to do with sex drive in particular persons. That's why, despite general tendency, you have extremely intensive sex drive. Also, you are 43. In age group from 35 to 45 women usually have stronger sex drive than men.

I used statistics in order to try do explain why there is almost no male "dominatrices".


Many here tried to educate you on the fallacy of your belief. Your insistence that we are wrong led to the resulting insults. Seems to be a reoccuring theme when you post.

As far as statistics, that little belle curve can be exploited. Statistics can be skewed quite easily to reveal the results the researcher is looking for. Not one of your graphs contained a link to any scientific study. And the one that did was exposed for what it truly was.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:20:16 AM   
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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:20:26 AM   
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Number three is the only reason that has any validity and correct in my opinion. Women don't pay for sex because they don't have to. Think again, your constant drivel on how we all need protecting because we're just subs with low self-esteem not intelligent enough to know abuse when we see it is insulting and ridiculous.

You really fail to see the effect you have on people. Get out and interact in real life. And SN, a response of you cannot understand it because you have not lived, is NOT a personal attack, it's a fact. None of this will make much sense to you, no book or thread will explain anything to you until you LIVE and see where you really fit in all of it, if you even do. So many of us have changed through experience, our viewpoints, roles, relationships all change and grow. Life is process, but you will not begin to go through it until you participate in it. That's not an insult, it's a fact.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:25:07 AM   
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SocNot, here is a quote for you which may help balance your thinking:

"Man spends 8 months trying to fight his way out of a woman's pussy.
He spends the rest of his life trying to get back into it again, and again, and again.  and again."


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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:26:08 AM   
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~grins

Thank god for a man's determination!

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:26:40 AM   
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I agree with that in part, some men really really don't get that there is a statute of limitations on the booty call.

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RE: No Male dominatrices? - 6/15/2010 9:27:13 AM   
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"Man spends 8 months trying to fight his way out of a woman's pussy.
He spends the rest of his life trying to get back into it again, and again, and again.  and again."


Sad but true, women are not even aware of how great advantage they have.


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