maybemaybenot -> RE: Why do people think it's ok to strawman an atheist? (6/18/2010 8:34:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot I've seen the data on IQ differences. I wonder if these atheists with the higher intelligence were born abd bred atheists. What about a religious person who abandoms their religious beliefs ? Do they get smarter, do their IQ points rise up ? Conversely, if an atheist has an epiphony and at some point subscribes to a religion, do they get dumber ? Do they lose IQ points ? Same questions apply to the other traits that are assigned to atheists vs religious people. Is the child or young person who has very devout religious beliefs doomed for life in the smarts department, even if they become atheists as adults ? For the sake of diversity and fairness should we have different IQ testing for religious and atheist folks ? You know, like an affirmative action type thing for the religious crowd. Seems to me issuing the same test to the poor little Christian, Jewish and Muslim kids take is setting them up for a life of failure and inferiority. < sacasm > There was a point in my life when I did not believe in God or religion. Was I smarter then ? Did returning to my religious views diminish my IQ points ? You understand the importance of the words "tend to" in the phrase "tend to have lower IQs," right? Yep, I do understand that word. My questions remain the same. Many atheists seem to delight in using the " we < as a collective group > have higher IQ than you < as a collective group >. And Panda: With the exception of where I said I was being sarcastic, re : affirmative action/different testing, I am dead serious. I would love to know if there is any data on that. Most atheists I know were raised and believed in a religion at some point in their lives. So how can it be that they " tend " to have higher IQs and all the other accoutraments. Was the data different when they were believers ? There was a study done in Austrailia, I will look for a link, I read it some time ago. < Maybe IB or another Aussie member can help me out >I can't remember the exact percentage. Anyhow it showed that some where in the low-mid 20% of church attenders earned a college or post grad degree vs low teen % of the general population. So what does that study say in comparison to the other one ? Do Aussie atheists " tend " to be less educated than religious people ? < questions are rhetorical and mentioned for illustrative purposes. > Personally I think it is all hogwash and don't believe one religious beliefs or lack of has any direct effect on intelligence.
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