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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/25/2010 10:50:10 PM   
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I believe that at times we focus on the negative aspect of fantasy and forget that some fantasies can be not only rewarding (as a means to work through something in the studio of your own mind) but healthy too because they can allow you to "see" the logical outcomes graphically. Most artists, I know, and especially those who work in the "Fantasy" genre, build up their pictures, images, sculptures or even books in their mind and allow the fantasy aspect to widen their view as to how  it may look or read, here too they can experiment and look at other view points until they settle on the one which suits their purposes. I know some jolly good artists who do this and at times are driven to a point where they do need another person to help them touch base and complete a realist check. One airbrush artist, whose works I enjoy is HR Giger the Swiss surrealist.

From another perspective, I usually find that fantasies can be divided into two basis categories. Those which can be discussed and even become the bases of some form of controlled enactment, (Such can n ever be accurate because of the interaction of other folks and if you have the situation where people need to speak lines and act gestures you need a good playwright) and there are those which are definitely best left in your head.


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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/25/2010 10:57:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I believe that at times we focus on the negative aspect of fantasy and forget that some fantasies can be not only rewarding (as a means to work through something in the studio of your own mind) but healthy too because they can allow you to "see" the logical outcomes graphically. Most artists, I know, and especially those who work in the "Fantasy" genre, build up their pictures, images, sculptures or even books in their mind and allow the fantasy aspect to widen their view as to how  it may look or read, here too they can experiment and look at other view points until they settle on the one which suits their purposes. I know some jolly good artists who do this and at times are driven to a point where they do need another person to help them touch base and complete a realist check. One airbrush artist, whose works I enjoy is HR Giger the Swiss surrealist.

From another perspective, I usually find that fantasies can be divided into two basis categories. Those which can be discussed and even become the bases of some form of controlled enactment, (Such can n ever be accurate because of the interaction of other folks and if you have the situation where people need to speak lines and act gestures you need a good playwright) and there are those which are definitely best left in your head.



Even those which cannot be enacted in real life can still be played out with others in a purely imaginary space.  Such as online.

Rape games can be played in real life.  Age play can to (and, paradoxically, is safer in real life than online) murder fantasies can be safely played out online.

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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/26/2010 12:20:06 AM   
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Agreed, but even then there are those fantasies which include dialogue which to do so would still require written scripts for all involved. I am aware that this too is useful when writing fiction because you can play it out in your head and even with others. Too I would add that there are some dark fantasies which people possibly are not comfortable in sharing even on the internet. There are times when it becomes necessary for a therapist to breach the self imposed (y the patient) "code of silence" in order to help a patient overcome a mental (for want of a better word) malady or indisposition. 

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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/26/2010 12:13:20 PM   
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I have lots of thoughts and fantasies that most people would consider "wrong" or "taboo" or "sick." I don't think they are any of these things. As a matter of fact, I don't think putting some of them into action would be "wrong" or "sick" either. I don't feel "shame" simply because others would think of my thoughts or actions as any of those things. I find that, for all the endless chattering about open minds and freedom of expression, people are generally pretty prudish about things they don't find hot or kinky themselves. There are NO feelings that are taboo. By virtue of their existence, they are valid to someone.............luci

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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/26/2010 2:04:33 PM   
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Being schizophrenic I have no control whatsoever over what's inside my head, so all I can do is take my meds and ignore the creepier ideas

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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/28/2010 8:18:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KariCloud

I know ageplay itself is common here, and much of it isn't pretend pedophilia. That's why I specified sexual ageplay, which very much is pretend pedophilia, no if's about it.



I'm 55 years old ffs. My kids are older than the age I play. So how is this bad, that he pretends to be a school teacher spanking the naughty schoolgirl, when we're responsible adults and damned devoted parents and grandparents?

It's pretend, not real. It never would be real. It's two adults over twice your age doing something consensually.


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RE: Are Any Feelings Taboo, or Just Actions? - 6/28/2010 9:30:57 AM   
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There are plenty of fantasies that go on in my head that some might run screaming from if they ever escaped through my mouth or finger tips,  one or 2 of them i feel uneasy with.. not ashamed of, but they are things I could never bring myself to actually DO.  Some are fantasies of the impossible. (one example would be I am an only child so the whole idea of sibling incest I find fascinating as it is something i will and can never experience.)  it stays in my head and does no-one any harm.. I don't have a sister to leer at or make drunken advances towards so there's no danger there.  (TBH the whole relationship dynamic is more fascinating to me than the action on that one)

I'm sure all of us have had the odd imagery creep into our heads of things that while they repulse us, fascinate us to the same degree.  I think it is all simply your mind re-affirming right and wrong.  keeping your own personal set of morals in balance.


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